Morgan:"Wow, only Stewie can do that!"

[UcMiami]

Definitely not a goal tend, ball was not in the cylinder and definitely a defensive foul.

And yeah - Moriah's quoted comments are straight forward. She may trash talk, but she wasn't the one pushing off, and jabbing with shoulder and arm.

 

[meyers7]

Definitely not a goal tend, ball was not in the cylinder and definitely a defensive foul.

And yeah - Moriah's quoted comments are straight forward. She may trash talk, but she wasn't the one pushing off, and jabbing with shoulder and arm.

Yea, Mabrey2 is lucky she didn't pick up more fouls or even an intentional foul. She pushed off (shoved, elbowed, etc) 4-5 times prior to being called for it.

 

[Carnac]

I'm smh over this thread on a board where Boneyarders were ready to tar and feather Becca Bruzinski after she allegedly yelled "must suck to be you" after an ND win. There was never a single witness or anyone willing to go on record that the event actually happened, much less thise words having been spoken,yet all kinds of really harsh words were thrown Becca's way.

I guess we really do have a full-blown rivaly, huh?

The policies and protocol that are in place on THIS SITE demand social etiquette and respect for fellow posters. We are not allowed to criticize players or other posters here.
I was a regular on ESPN's threads before coming here. They have a similar policy there, but its not enforced as vigorously as it is here. It's no holds barred there. You had to have a very thick skin to post there. They would challenge your man-hood, and attack you personally.

Not all posters were rude and obnoxious. There were / are some good, fair minded, and very knowledgeable people there. There were some very lively debates (arguments) and "in your face" accusations there too. Some (not all) of the "regular" ND supporters that posted there on a regular basis had a genuine hatred and disgust of UConn fans and our team. They constantly vilified Geno. They wanted his head on a stick. THEY HATED LOSING TO UCONN.

Do we have a full-blown rivalry?..................huh yeah!.

It got down right vulgar at times. There were two particular posters that were so obnoxious, most of us put them on "block" (you call it ignore here). One of the two was so obnoxious, that he wished physical harm to our girls because he hated their success in general, and their success in particular against ND.

The difference between this board that that one is like night and day. There where no on-duty Ops there then (I don't know about now). You could post something vulgar or a personal attack, and it may stay up for as long as six hours before taken down. We had some UConn fans that defended UConn, Geno and the fan base, and gave them back everything they tried to throw at us. The line was drawn, and we went from there. I like I much better here. You don't have to wear a suit of "armor" to post here.

 

[CL82]

"She had 21 points in the first half and that's unacceptable," Jefferson said. "I just wanted to come out, face-guard her and make her life really hard."

God, I love this kid.

"I think [Katie Lou Samuelson, who had 10 points] lost 30-10 today. I think she personally lost by 20. If she was in the vicinity, that guy scored. We've got to fix that."

God, I love Geno.... and so it begins. Get used to it, Katie Lou. It won't stop until your senior year. If it is any consolation there are quite a few "worst defenders in America" who ended up being all-Americans.

 

[billnaples]

Yes there were actually four posters in my mind who should have had their posting privileges totally revoked. First and foremost was the psychotic one who wished a plane or bus crash to erase the girls and coaches. He also claimed inside status in the WBCA and knew all the top teams were going to boycott UConn's OOC schedule and weaken their recruiting. Much of the rest of his ranting was about the arrogance of UConn fans, how he can no longer go to a final four because of his hate for GA and the entire program. There are a couple of others who I understand are still posting (I blocked them but see others responding) and some is borderline but much is just bilge refuse. There was one other guy who had a love of butchering virtually all of the players names as well as Coach. I took him to task one day in a private message about why he needed to do that when all these women were trying to do was play a game to the best of their ability and how would he feel if someone attacked his daughter in that fashion. I was blown away by the fact that I have not seen him repeating that since. So sometimes common sense and rational behavior does work....not often....just sometimes. We try.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Well it's not the men's game or NBA, so I didn't even think that went on in the women's game.

Surely, you are kidding me. ??

 

[BroadwayVa]

Yes there were actually four posters in my mind who should have had their posting privileges totally revoked. First and foremost was the psychotic one who wished a plane or bus crash to erase the girls and coaches. He also claimed inside status in the WBCA and knew all the top teams were going to boycott UConn's OOC schedule and weaken their recruiting. Much of the rest of his ranting was about the arrogance of UConn fans, how he can no longer go to a final four because of his hate for GA and the entire program. There are a couple of others who I understand are still posting (I blocked them but see others responding) and some is borderline but much is just bilge refuse. There was one other guy who had a love of butchering virtually all of the players names as well as Coach. I took him to task one day in a private message about why he needed to do that when all these women were trying to do was play a game to the best of their ability and how would he feel if someone attacked his daughter in that fashion. I was blown away by the fact that I have not seen him repeating that since. So sometimes common sense and rational behavior does work....not often....just sometimes. We try.

Interesting Bill--to my pleasure, I didn't see those of which you speak!! Lurkers from other boards, dumping trash onto the Boneyard to see how much they can rile us up. I'm not sure what you did was the right thing or not but obviously it was effective.
Two of the Boneyard Admin's have been active, I can provide direct personal action taken on a word or comical comments (not on WBB) I used. So I am a bit amazed that anyone talking/writing that trash would survive longer than 1 minute.

 

[Carnac]

Yes there were actually four posters in my mind who should have had their posting privileges totally revoked. First and foremost was the psychotic one who wished a plane or bus crash to erase the girls and coaches. He also claimed inside status in the WBCA and knew all the top teams were going to boycott UConn's OOC schedule and weaken their recruiting. Much of the rest of his ranting was about the arrogance of UConn fans, how he can no longer go to a final four because of his hate for GA and the entire program. There are a couple of others who I understand are still posting (I blocked them but see others responding) and some is borderline but much is just bilge refuse. There was one other guy who had a love of butchering virtually all of the players names as well as Coach. I took him to task one day in a private message about why he needed to do that when all these women were trying to do was play a game to the best of their ability and how would he feel if someone attacked his daughter in that fashion. I was blown away by the fact that I have not seen him repeating that since. So sometimes common sense and rational behavior does work....not often....just sometimes. We try.

Hi Bill, We're talking about the "same psychotic" guy (clown). I know the guy you referring to who likes to butcher names as well. Thanks for corroborating my comment.

 

[johnnyc]

I don't have a problem with what she said,

I would think if you didn't have a problem with it this is all that needed to be said.

Compare with what Jefferson said (with reference to Marina getting frustrated):

"Definitely," Jefferson said, "but that's part of it. It's going to come when you start getting in guys' faces and they're not getting the ball anymore. There's going to be some frustration.

Actually it seems as if Mo was being kind and defending Mabrey jr's pushing and shoving saying it was part of the game as a result of being frustrated by great defense.

"Then your head's out of it. You're worried about me being on you. You're worried about hitting me off of you. Then when you get the ball, you're not going to be looking at the rim, you're going to be focused on me. As soon as I see that happen, I'm like, 'OK, I did my job.'"

Pretty apt description of what good defense can do.

 

[5N2WB]

"In the first half Stewart saw a ball coming off the rim and she went in pursuit of the offensive rebound. However, the ball hung up on the rim a little longer than anticipates so while she was being fouled she swooped in and came up with one of the most remarkable plays I've seen". ~ Moriah Jefferson

A personal observation on this play: Yes, it was a great play. However, no one's mentioning how she escaped possible injury. On that play, she was inadvertently "low-bridged" by a Notre Dame player. When I saw that play, and saw how hard Stewart hit the floor, I immediately thought to myself, she could have very easily broke her wrist on that play. If you watch that play again, her hands were the first thing to contact the floor due to getting low-bridged, and having her legs taken out from under her.

Remember that's how KML missed several games one year where she too used her hands to break a fall (and hurt her shoulder), that was not a hard as this one.
If Stewart breaks her wrist, there goes UConn's bid for 4 straight. Anyone that thinks UConn could go the remainder of the season without Stewart and still win the NC is dreaming.

She'd be done for the season, and her career, unless she redshirts and comes back next year (which I seriously doubt). Stewart and UConn were very lucky that she got up, and survived that play without any injury.

Tip in: I too along with every other UConn fan, was extremely happy with UConn's win over Notre Dame. Jefferson's ability to "lockdown" (or shutdown) an opponent that has a hot hand, is one of the many reasons she's Carnac's favorite player. She has been since the Baylor game 3 years ago. Mo will climb in an opponent's uniform to guard them. That's how close and in your face she will get!!! You know anyone that can / will play that kind of defense is a favorite of (not just Geno) any coach. What a wonderful weapon to have in your arsenal, and at your disposal.

Its not easy to hold a player that had 21 points in a half, to only 2 points the other half. That as much as anything else was a major factor why UConn was able to win.
She totally shut down the opponent's hottest scorer. Imagine if Mabrey had 21 points in the second half as well. The game quite possible could have turned out a little different.

I think it was the Stamford game and Chiney who low bridged KML. I'm glad these incidents are accidental and rare in WBB.

 

[billnaples]

Interesting Bill--to my pleasure, I didn't see those of which you speak!! Lurkers from other boards, dumping trash onto the Boneyard to see how much they can rile us up. I'm not sure what you did was the right thing or not but obviously it was effective.
Two of the Boneyard Admin's have been active, I can provide direct personal action taken on a word or comical comments (not on WBB) I used. So I am a bit amazed that anyone talking/writing that trash would survive longer than 1 minute.

Broadway......my apologies if you thought I was referring to anyone here in the BY. These "performances" were by posting on the ESPNW game sites over some two years that I was out there. Sometimes it was just over the top insults directed at other posters but it also got vicious towards staff and players. I personally reported several but in the end the most effective tool was blocking. The one death wish guy was so off the wall that even the most ardent Irish fans were blocking him. In fairness UConn had a couple of folks that probably should have not been on chat boards either and I know I blocked one of them as well. We can all be supportive of our team without denigrating 18-22 year old kids who are just trying to be as good as they can. I'd be happy to privately provide the names although quite unlikely it would be for them to show up here, as they say, for longer than a NY minute

 

[Carnac]

I think it was the Stanford game and Chiney who low bridged KML. I'm glad these incidents are accidental and rare in WBB.

Yes, I believe it was KML's "junior" season. I believe she missed 12 games that year. The records she set for her career, would have been put further out of reach if she had played those 12 additional games.

 

[ricky]

Actually it could easily have been a foul on the ND defender who moves into her path after she is in the air. Definitely not a foul on Stewart. In the men's game - where the refs are used to protecting airborne players - that would be a defensive foul for sure.

That looked to me like the defender was trying to put Stewart in the hospital. Even after contact, the defender continued to move through Stewarts body causing her to flip.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Broadway.my apologies if you thought I was refyone here in the BY. These "performances" were by posting on the ESPNW game sites over some two years that I was out there. Sometimes it was just over the top insults directed at other posters but it also got vicious towards staff and players. I personally reported several but in the end the most effective tool was blocking. The one death wish guy was so off the wall that even the most ardent Irish fans were blocking him. In gfairness UConn had a couple of folks that probably should have not been on chat boards either and I know I blocked one of them as well. We can all be supportive of our team without denigrating 18-22 year old kidswho are just trying to be as good as they can.

No problema !! I read many of the other postings on this subject but not the specific ND site crapola.
Nan and company would not allow anything close to what you described here on the Boneyard. I'm not thrilled with much of the, now I got ya, ya SOB postings (nitpickers) but to the credit of the Boneyard administration--you cannot speak mean or despicable about ANY WBB regardless of team.
I know you remember the chaos and mean spirited posting on the Courant 2 years ago--this is so much more pleasant. No apologizes necessary or ever wanted from any Naples. Thank you.

 

[BroadwayVa]

I think it was the Stanford game and Chiney who low bridged KML. I'm glad these incidents are accidental and rare in WBB.

Yes, I believe it was KML's "junior" season. I believe she missed 12 games that year. The records she set for her career, would have been put further out of reach if she had played those 12 additional games.

I was surprised and dismayed by the undercutting of Stewie by Cable without a Technical Foul--I thought a technical was a given, just because of the danger the undercut player was in. But the number of fouls not called was in itself something.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Did Mo also say Mabrey was slapping her?

Jefferson said she was being poked, pushed, pulled by Mabrey2--slapping (?) only 2 and Moriah knows for sure. But both Geno and Moriah complained to the refs--and Uconn kids typically are discouraged from complaining to the Refs. You'll see more of 2's physical actions against Moriah as she face guards them, why not --the Refs apparently don't care or look for that.
You'll also see more of the chaotic/hectic defense against Uconn until the Refs and or Uconn fixes it.

 

[EricLA]

I guess they thought she was gloating in her comments and disliked that?

I don't have a problem with what she said, though, but her comments are slightly unusual in that most wbb player interviews are bland and deferential to the maximum, e.g. "I just tried to defend her the best I could and I'm just happy I was able to play my part for the team."

Compare with what Jefferson said (with reference to Marina getting frustrated):

"Definitely," Jefferson said, "but that's part of it. It's going to come when you start getting in guys' faces and they're not getting the ball anymore. There's going to be some frustration.

"Then your head's out of it. You're worried about me being on you. You're worried about hitting me off of you. Then when you get the ball, you're not going to be looking at the rim, you're going to be focused on me. As soon as I see that happen, I'm like, 'OK, I did my job.'"

I absolutely love Moriah's comments. 2 thoughts...

First, any ND fan who thinks this is classless needs a lesson in what being "classless" means. Second, this is not Tee-league or kickball where everyone wins and it's all puppies and kitties. If Rodney Purvis or one of the other players on the guy's team said that, people would be like "ONIONS!" or "Love the moxie".

I get a little tired of people pretending that WCBB is supposed to be fragile and like a tea party. I could see them getting upset if Mo had said "It was great to see her get hysterical and lose her while I was all up in her grill" but she said nothing close to that.

And by the way go back and watch the game and watch how much Maybrey forearm shivers Mo whenever she tried to guard her. But I don't hear UCONN fans calling Maybrey a thug or classless.

Having said that, I guess it's the nature of a rivalry, but hearing ND fans talk about Mo and Geno as being classless are apparently mouthpieces for Tennessee because they spouted that drivel for years.

 

[BroadwayVa]

I absolutely love Moriah's comments. 2 thoughts...

First, any ND fan who thinks this is classless needs a lesson in what being "classless" means. Second, this is not Tee-league or kickball where everyone wins and it's all puppies and kitties. If Rodney Purvis or one of the other players on the guy's team said that, people would be like "ONIONS!" or "Love the moxie".

I get a little tired of people pretending that WCBB is supposed to be fragile and like a tea party. I could see them getting upset if Mo had said "It was great to see her get hysterical and lose her while I was all up in her grill" but she said nothing close to that.

And by the way go back and watch the game and watch how much Maybrey forearm shivers Mo whenever she tried to guard her. But I don't hear UCONN fans calling Maybrey a thug or classless.

Having said that, I guess it's the nature of a rivalry, but hearing ND fans talk about Mo and Geno as being classless are apparently mouthpieces for Tennessee because they spouted that drivel for years.

I am willing to bet Moriah had/has sore ribs from all the punching and pushing to her ribs and mid section. My TV isn't great for seeing EVERYthing but it showed 2 using her size, weight, and hands against Moriah's body and arms.
For the last 15 or so years (when was DT here?) the game was physical--DT was the first UConn Ping Pong ball. Shea was a very very tough Uconn kid, I remember her getting a fore arm to the throat.The women's game has not been a game for wooses for a long long time.
You have to realize that all WBB teams from below the Mason/Dixon line are full of " Ladies". Many arrive at the Gyms in their wide brim hats, flowing silken gowns, and have lead very very sheltered lives. That is why they are called the LADY-- (team name).
Geno is caring, giving. He is prone to speak without fully thinking what was coming out or how it may sound. But for certain he has as much class as all 360 or so Div 1 WBB coaches.

 

[Orangutan]

I absolutely love Moriah's comments. 2 thoughts...

First, any ND fan who thinks this is classless needs a lesson in what being "classless" means. Second, this is not Tee-league or kickball where everyone wins and it's all puppies and kitties. If Rodney Purvis or one of the other players on the guy's team said that, people would be like "ONIONS!" or "Love the moxie".

I get a little tired of people pretending that WCBB is supposed to be fragile and like a tea party. I could see them getting upset if Mo had said "It was great to see her get hysterical and lose her while I was all up in her grill" but she said nothing close to that.

And by the way go back and watch the game and watch how much Maybrey forearm shivers Mo whenever she tried to guard her. But I don't hear UCONN fans calling Maybrey a thug or classless.

Having said that, I guess it's the nature of a rivalry, but hearing ND fans talk about Mo and Geno as being classless are apparently mouthpieces for Tennessee because they spouted that drivel for years.

I totally agree with the section I quoted in bold.

As to the rest, this place is too well-moderated to allow name-calling. However (without naming examples, because this isn't the place for it), I've definitely seen some irrational stuff about ND here, to say the least. I think it's par for the course on fan message boards.

I've never taken issue with the behavior of UConn players. Geno...well, he says some things that to UConn fans are "telling it like it is" and to opposing fans are "being a jerk." But I get the feeling Geno kdoesn't mind wearing the black hat.

 

[HoopsFan21]

I absolutely love Moriah's comments. 2 thoughts...

First, any ND fan who thinks this is classless needs a lesson in what being "classless" means. Second, this is not Tee-league or kickball where everyone wins and it's all puppies and kitties. If Rodney Purvis or one of the other players on the guy's team said that, people would be like "ONIONS!" or "Love the moxie".

I get a little tired of people pretending that WCBB is supposed to be fragile and like a tea party. I could see them getting upset if Mo had said "It was great to see her get hysterical and lose her while I was all up in her grill" but she said nothing close to that.

And by the way go back and watch the game and watch how much Maybrey forearm shivers Mo whenever she tried to guard her. But I don't hear UCONN fans calling Maybrey a thug or classless.

Having said that, I guess it's the nature of a rivalry, but hearing ND fans talk about Mo and Geno as being classless are apparently mouthpieces for Tennessee because they spouted that drivel for years.

It's funny you put it this way, because I've often said the same thing... except instead of tea party I used the term garden club.

 

[Huskies Rule]

I guess Mabrey jr. hasn't yet perfected her ND flop- she might have fouled Moriah out had she developed that skill.

As for ND's annoyance with our #4, who I believe is the best defensive guard in WCBB, how would you feel if you had the second finest program in the nation for the past five years running, yet for all that excellence you had nothing to show for it in your trophy case but FOUR RUNNER UP finishes and no National Championships. The ND animus is just a reflection of half a decade of frustration. Looking to ventilate on anyone or anything UConn is understandable. Their resentment must be almost unbearable and is to be expected, but attacking Moriah is wrong. Go after Geno, if you must, he can handle all that BS.

 

[OldAlum]

If the situation were reversed, I would likely be annoyed at such a statement - but only because the truth stings. Getting into an opponent's head is part of the game and young Mabrey just got a lesson. Be interesting to see if she can control her emotions and consistently play at a high level. I always admired McBride for the passion she brought.
BTW, I just rewatched the game. It appeared to me that Mo was not faceguarding Mabrey at the start of the second half. ND's first possession, Mo got a steal. Next possession it appeared everyone was still switching and Mabrey scored on a cut with a nice pass for a layup. Then Tuck got fouled and Mo and Geno talked. Mo faceguarded Mabrey after that. So it appears to me that she never scored while being faceguarded.