Morgan:"Wow, only Stewie can do that!"

[Huskies Rule]

Excellent comments about Moriah's defense of Mabrey and Stewie's sick tip. Including...

Moriah: "I thought she was going to dunk it."

Mabrey on Moriah: "She is a great defender. I've never gotten that before in college..."

http://elmcitytoeaglevillenhr.blogspot.com/

 

[Bestiarius]

Watching Mo do her face guarding routine reminds me of those street entertainers who dance, up tempo, with a full size doll, with the dolls feet sewed to their shoes.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Anyone catch what Mo said that has riled up the ND board? Some have said it was classless like our coach, but I can't find anything in the post-game comments. From what I've heard, Mo is a bit of a trash talker, which I can't imagine.

 

[jsloanjr]

I love it......Give this team a few days of R+R after exams to recharge their batteries........LOOKOUT!!!

 

[JoePgh]

I haven't read the Notre Dame boards, but I am surprised that no one has questioned whether the basket should have been nullified for rim interference (loosely called "offensive goaltending"). I believe the rule is that neither an offensive nor a defensive player can touch the ball while it is in contact with the rim. If the defensive player does it, it is goaltending and 2 points are awarded to the offensive team. If the offensive team does it, there is no basket and a turnover.

In this case, if the ball had ceased to be in contact with the rim when Stewie touched it, it was only by a millimeter or so. When I watched it live, I thought that call would be made.

Watching the video, I think there is a case to be made for an over-the-back call against Stewie, although that is arguable.

 

[Zorro]

The zebras were probably too stunned to make a call.

 

[billnaples]

Anyone catch what Mo said that has riled up the ND board? Some have said it was classless like our coach, but I can't find anything in the post-game comments. From what I've heard, Mo is a bit of a trash talker, which I can't imagine.

Is it possible that something was said? Certainly. But regardless of who is alleged to have said something "classless" I believe two things should be required here. One for sure is something resembling proof. And secondly what was it the was supposed to have been said. And BTW Geno has a sharp tongue but I can't recall anything he has said that would be classless.

 

[sarals24]

Ha! Mo as a trash talker is hilarious to me. Probably because she has such an angelic face.

 

[JoePgh]

Moriah was quoted as saying something like, "Once I have her thinking about getting away from me instead of making a play, I've done my job -- she won't be effective any more." Despite my quotation marks, that is NOT a direct quote, but she did say something that amounted to that. I can understand why Notre Dame fans, in the aftermath of a loss, would feel that was gratuitous.

 

[rvwsleep]

Anyone catch what Mo said that has riled up the ND board? Some have said it was classless like our coach, but I can't find anything in the post-game comments. From what I've heard, Mo is a bit of a trash talker, which I can't imagine.

The ND comment about Mo was of the type that you typically see on a team's board from one of it's own fans. They read what they want to into the quotes. The quip about Geno was just a gratuitous cheap shot. ND has a great program, but it seems that some, certainly not all, of it's fans have a chip developing on their shoulders.
They were discussing this article:
http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-womens-basketball/hc-jacobs-column-1206-20151205-column.html
Chalk it up to frustration.

 

[OldAlum]

Re: goaltending. Has it ever been called in a women's game? Griner maybe? I agree that the ref's minds never went there!

So the ND board is talking about a Mo comment without saying what it was?

Oops, saw more info just after I initially posted.

 

[BroadwayVa]

I haven't read the Notre Dame boards, but I am surprised that no one has questioned whether the basket should have been nullified for rim interference (loosely called "offensive goaltending"). I believe the rule is that neither an offensive nor a defensive player can touch the ball while it is in contact with the rim. If the defensive player does it, it is goaltending and 2 points are awarded to the offensive team. If the offensive team does it, there is no basket and a turnover.

In this case, if the ball had ceased to be in contact with the rim when Stewie touched it, it was only by a millimeter or so. When I watched it live, I thought that call would be made.

Watching the video, I think there is a case to be made for an over-the-back call against Stewie, although that is arguable.

All calls are "ARGUABLE". No Call No GOAL tending.

 

[msf22b]

Moriah was quoted as saying something like, "Once I have her thinking about getting away from me instead of making a play, I've done my job -- she won't be effective any more." Despite my quotation marks, that is NOT a direct quote, but she did say something that amounted to that. I can understand why Notre Dame fans, in the aftermath of a loss, would feel that was gratuitous.

I remember...way back, when pro BB was a game worthy of watching...that lil' Al McGuire (of the McGuire brothers) made a public pronouncement that he would neutralize Bob Cousy for the Knicks in an upcoming game...headline in the Post.

You can imagine what transpired...

 

[stamfordhusky]

Watching the video, I think there is a case to be made for an over-the-back call against Stewie, although that is arguable.

Actually it could easily have been a foul on the ND defender who moves into her path after she is in the air. Definitely not a foul on Stewart. In the men's game - where the refs are used to protecting airborne players - that would be a defensive foul for sure.

 

[HoopsFan21]

TRASH TALKING MO?? Can you imagine what Mabrey2 was saying the entire 2nd half to Moriah Jefferson--now that is TRASH talking.

Well it's not the men's game or NBA, so I didn't even think that went on in the women's game.

 

[Biff]

I haven't read the Notre Dame boards, but I am surprised that no one has questioned whether the basket should have been nullified for rim interference (loosely called "offensive goaltending"). I believe the rule is that neither an offensive nor a defensive player can touch the ball while it is in contact with the rim. If the defensive player does it, it is goaltending and 2 points are awarded to the offensive team. If the offensive team does it, there is no basket and a turnover.

In this case, if the ball had ceased to be in contact with the rim when Stewie touched it, it was only by a millimeter or so. When I watched it live, I thought that call would be made.

Watching the video, I think there is a case to be made for an over-the-back call against Stewie, although that is arguable.

First I did not get the impression at all that the ball was in contact with the rim when Stewie first touched it. But to prove it to myself I enlarged the slo-mo if the moments around the tip.

To me it is clear that the ball rolled off the front end of the rim and was physically clear by one to two inches. When Stewie tip it she tips it forward and back into the from of the rim causing the ball to bounce towards the backboard and up. No goal tend.

 

[Bestiarius]

Moriah was quoted as saying something like, "Once I have her thinking about getting away from me instead of making a play, I've done my job -- she won't be effective any more." Despite my quotation marks, that is NOT a direct quote, but she did say something that amounted to that. I can understand why Notre Dame fans, in the aftermath of a loss, would feel that was gratuitous.

I wouldn't characterize Mo's comments about Mabrey as classless. Just an honest assessment of Mo's defensive strategy goal. In fact, she was doing Marina a favor by letting her know what caused her poor second half performance. Mo the psychologist.

 

[iamcbs]

Why would MoJet's comments be offensive? She locked up Kayla McBride two years ago, and Jewel Lloyd last year. Why would Baby Mabrey be any different, especially after she torched the Huskies in the 1st half.

 

[Icebear]

I haven't read the Notre Dame boards, but I am surprised that no one has questioned whether the basket should have been nullified for rim interference (loosely called "offensive goaltending"). I believe the rule is that neither an offensive nor a defensive player can touch the ball while it is in contact with the rim. If the defensive player does it, it is goaltending and 2 points are awarded to the offensive team. If the offensive team does it, there is no basket and a turnover.

In this case, if the ball had ceased to be in contact with the rim when Stewie touched it, it was only by a millimeter or so. When I watched it live, I thought that call would be made.

Watching the video, I think there is a case to be made for an over-the-back call against Stewie, although that is arguable.

In the one view the ball is clearly coming off the front of the rim, not on or in the cylinder. I had wondered about that, too.

 

[Orangutan]

Why would MoJet's comments be offensive?

I guess they thought she was gloating in her comments and disliked that?

I don't have a problem with what she said, though, but her comments are slightly unusual in that most wbb player interviews are bland and deferential to the maximum, e.g. "I just tried to defend her the best I could and I'm just happy I was able to play my part for the team."

Compare with what Jefferson said (with reference to Marina getting frustrated):

"Definitely," Jefferson said, "but that's part of it. It's going to come when you start getting in guys' faces and they're not getting the ball anymore. There's going to be some frustration.

"Then your head's out of it. You're worried about me being on you. You're worried about hitting me off of you. Then when you get the ball, you're not going to be looking at the rim, you're going to be focused on me. As soon as I see that happen, I'm like, 'OK, I did my job.'"

 

[iri10]

The whining about Moriah's comments is probably a combination of post-loss bitterness and a lack of context.

I doubt she volunteered all that quoted information without being prompted. I suspect she was asked questions by the press that led her along that line of discussion. Stuff along the lines of, "At times Mabrey showed frustration, like when she shoved you during the inbounds play, etc. etc. etc. How do you think your defense in the second half contributed to that?" (that's just a random guess as to how it might have went; there are infinite variations to how they actually might have asked about Mo's defense)

 

[Carnac]

Excellent comments about Moriah's defense of Mabrey and Stewie's sick tip. Including...

Moriah: "I thought she was going to dunk it."

Mabrey on Moriah: "She is a great defender. I've never gotten that before in college..."

http://elmcitytoeaglevillenhr.blogspot.com/

"In the first half Stewart saw a ball coming off the rim and she went in pursuit of the offensive rebound. However, the ball hung up on the rim a little longer than anticipates so while she was being fouled she swooped in and came up with one of the most remarkable plays I've seen". ~ Moriah Jefferson

A personal observation on this play: Yes, it was a great play. However, no one's mentioning how she escaped possible injury. On that play, she was inadvertently "low-bridged" by a Notre Dame player. When I saw that play, and saw how hard Stewart hit the floor, I immediately thought to myself, she could have very easily broke her wrist on that play. If you watch that play again, her hands were the first thing to contact the floor due to getting low-bridged, and having her legs taken out from under her.

Remember that's how KML missed several games one year where she too used her hands to break a fall (and hurt her shoulder), that was not a hard as this one.
If Stewart breaks her wrist, there goes UConn's bid for 4 straight. Anyone that thinks UConn could go the remainder of the season without Stewart and still win the NC is dreaming.

She'd be done for the season, and her career, unless she redshirts and comes back next year (which I seriously doubt). Stewart and UConn were very lucky that she got up, and survived that play without any injury.

Tip in: I too along with every other UConn fan, was extremely happy with UConn's win over Notre Dame. Jefferson's ability to "lockdown" (or shutdown) an opponent that has a hot hand, is one of the many reasons she's Carnac's favorite player. She has been since the Baylor game 3 years ago. Mo will climb in an opponent's uniform to guard them. That's how close and in your face she will get!!! You know anyone that can / will play that kind of defense is a favorite of (not just Geno) any coach. What a wonderful weapon to have in your arsenal, and at your disposal.

Its not easy to hold a player that had 21 points in a half, to only 2 points the other half. That as much as anything else was a major factor why UConn was able to win.
She totally shut down the opponent's hottest scorer. Imagine if Mabrey had 21 points in the second half as well. The game quite possible could have turned out a little different.

 

[HuskyNan]

I'm smh over this thread on a board where Boneyarders were ready to tar and feather Becca Bruzinski after she allegedly yelled "must suck to be you" after an ND win. There was never a single witness or anyone willing to go on record that the event actually happened, much less thise words having been spoken,yet all kinds of really harsh words were thrown Becca's way.

I guess we really do have a full-blown rivaly, huh?

 

[Carnac]

Actually it could easily have been a foul on the ND defender who moves into her path after she is in the air. Definitely not a foul on Stewart. In the men's game - where the refs are used to protecting airborne players - that would be a defensive foul for sure.

I agree. It appeared that Stewie went airborne, then the ND player went in underneath her (low bridged) her. If the ND player was stationary, and Stewie jumped over her back, then you have a case for "over the back". That was not the case, and why no foul on Stewie was called. Stewie was very lucky she did not get hurt on this play.

 

[Intpseeker]

First I did not get the impression at all that the ball was in contact with the rim when Stewie first touched it. But to prove it to myself I enlarged the slo-mo if the moments around the tip.

To me it is clear that the ball rolled off the front end of the rim and was physically clear by one to two inches. When Stewie tip it she tips it forward and back into the from of the rim causing the ball to bounce towards the backboard and up. No goal tend.

Good angle. To be a violation, the ball has to be in the 'cylinder'.