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More trouble in ACC paradise?

Notre Dame, take a good hard look.

Knute Rockne is not walking in the building. Neither is Digger Phelps, who despite his outsized persona, made one Final Four.

The day is coming when ND will be forced to accept that they can no longer command an exclusive national TV contract for football. Then, finally, they will kneel at the altar of the Big Ten.

Full Disclosure: I refuse to refer to the conference as the B1G (such an arrogant moniker).
 
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The AAU thing is about as important as being President of the science club matters on your college application.
Does it help a bit? Probably.

But no one with an A+ average is getting turned down because they weren't president and no one with an F average is getting in because they were.
 
Viet Vet said:
Notre Dame, take a good hard look.

Knute Rockne is not walking in the building. Neither is Digger Phelps, who despite his outsized persona, made one Final Four.

The day is coming when ND will be forced to accept that they can no longer command an exclusive national TV contract for football. Then, finally, they will kneel at the altar of the Big Ten.

Full Disclosure: I refuse to refer to the conference as the B1G (such an arrogant moniker).
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Comparing ND football to ND basketball history is ridiculous.
 
Viet Vet said:
Notre Dame, take a good hard look.

Knute Rockne is not walking in the building. Neither is Digger Phelps, who despite his outsized persona, made one Final Four.

The day is coming when ND will be forced to accept that they can no longer command an exclusive national TV contract for football. Then, finally, they will kneel at the altar of the Big Ten.

Full Disclosure: I refuse to refer to the conference as the B1G (such an arrogant moniker).
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Fantasy Island. ND will always get a good TV deal, from NBC or elsewhere.

It is not going to join the Big Ten in football.
 
TerryD1957 said:
Fantasy Island. ND will always get a good TV deal, from NBC or elsewhere.

It is not going to join the Big Ten in football.
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Ha Who said:
Sears once ruled the retail world until they didn’t
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Notre Dame is Amazon.

You guys are going to go to your graves insisting that the time is coming for Notre Dame and then two days later, ND will play football on whatever exclusive network is currently paying them zillions of dollars.
 
not for nothing but has anyone seen ND's football schedule this year? I mean, it is awful.
in-conference alone is putrid outside of Miami:
UNC, Stanford, Miami, bcu, smu, cuse
 
Fishy said:
Notre Dame is Amazon.

You guys are going to go to your graves insisting that the time is coming for Notre Dame and then two days later, ND will play football on whatever exclusive network is currently paying them zillions of dollars.
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Amazon ruled until one day they don’t

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Kolumbo said:
not for nothing but has anyone seen ND's football schedule this year? I mean, it is awful.
in-conference alone is putrid outside of Miami:
UNC, Stanford, Miami, bcu, smu, cuse
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Seems like they could benefit from playing a scrappy, upstart Independent.
 
Kolumbo said:
not for nothing but has anyone seen ND's football schedule this year? I mean, it is awful.
in-conference alone is putrid outside of Miami:
UNC, Stanford, Miami, bcu, smu, cuse
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Only two teams that will be good is Miami and BYU. The rest of the schedule is pretty weak. To make the CFP next year they will probably have to run the table. ND caused this issue by playing a majority of their games against ACC opponents as their “in conference” match ups. ACC is just not very good in football.
 
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JwittersPAC said:
Only two teams that will be good is Miami and BYU. The rest of the schedule is pretty weak. To make the CFP next year they will probably have to run the table. ND caused this issue by playing a majority of their games against ACC opponents as their “in conference” match ups. ACC is just not very good in football.
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They literally just have to finish in the top 12 and they are automatically included.
 
Fishy said:
They literally just have to finish in the top 12 and they are automatically included.
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Where did ND literally finish in 2025? I'm not saying ND won't make the playoffs and with its schedule it should finish in the top 12. Hopefully ND comes away with 2 losses from this group: Wiscy, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue. It has managed to somehow schedule the worst of the Big Ten and the ACC in the same year.
 
Kolumbo said:
Where did ND literally finish in 2025? I'm not saying ND won't make the playoffs and with its schedule it should finish in the top 12. Hopefully ND comes away with 2 losses from this group: Wiscy, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue. It has managed to somehow schedule the worst of the Big Ten and the ACC in the same year.
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With the agreement on the expanded playoffs, beginning in 2026, if ND finishes in ghe top twelve they automatically qualify (similar the the winner of a P-4 championship game).
 
Kolumbo said:
Where did ND literally finish in 2025? I'm not saying ND won't make the playoffs and with its schedule it should finish in the top 12. Hopefully ND comes away with 2 losses from this group: Wiscy, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue. It has managed to somehow schedule the worst of the Big Ten and the ACC in the same year.
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Inside the top 12.

It's a contractual obligation.

I'm not sure what you're arguing about.
 
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Kolumbo said:
Where did ND literally finish in 2025? I'm not saying ND won't make the playoffs and with its schedule it should finish in the top 12. Hopefully ND comes away with 2 losses from this group: Wiscy, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue. It has managed to somehow schedule the worst of the Big Ten and the ACC in the same year.
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The terms of the new agreement start next season. So while this year it was possible for Notre Dame, ranked #11 to be excluded, as Fishy notes... next year if Notre Dame is in the top-12 of the rankings they are automatically included. Next year it will also be impossible for any of the ACC, Big Ten, Big XII or SEC champions to be excluded as they all are automatically included regardless of rank.
 
Kolumbo said:
Where did ND literally finish in 2025? I'm not saying ND won't make the playoffs and with its schedule it should finish in the top 12. Hopefully ND comes away with 2 losses from this group: Wiscy, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue. It has managed to somehow schedule the worst of the Big Ten and the ACC in the same year.
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I heard the AD from USC talk about not playing ND in part because they want to soften their non conference schedule to make it easier to get into the playoffs. Texas said that too. As always the Irish are one step ahead of the curve.LOL
 
freescooter said:
I heard the AD from USC talk about not playing ND in part because they want to soften their non conference schedule to make it easier to get into the playoffs. Texas said that too. As always the Irish are one step ahead of the curve.LOL
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USC is already making 3 cross country trips; I’m not surprised they don’t want to make a 4th. Didn’t they propose playing ND in Denver?

With how loaded the SEC is, I can understand wanting an easy win.
 
Purple Stein said:
Seems like they could benefit from playing a scrappy, upstart Independent.
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Doubtful since UConn so publicly and adamantly rejected a ten-year scheduling deal offered by ND.

Not so sure that ND would be willing to schedule UConn after that.
 
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Vowelguy said:
USC is already making 3 cross country trips; I’m not surprised they don’t want to make a 4th. Didn’t they propose playing ND in Denver?

With how loaded the SEC is, I can understand wanting an easy win.
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Mexico City.
 
TerryD1957 said:
Doubtful since UConn so publicly and adamantly rejected a ten-year scheduling deal offered by ND.

Not so sure that ND would be willing to schedule UConn after that.
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TerryD1957 said:
Doubtful since UConn so publicly and adamantly rejected a ten-year scheduling deal offered by ND.

Not so sure that ND would be willing to schedule UConn after that.
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Hey. I wish we took that deal. Not doing it was a mistake given our conference situation. However, not being willing to play us because we wanted to play games in our home stadium isn’t really something there should be animosity about. That’s ridiculously petty if that’s the case. We run a classy program in a part of the country that is all about their demographic and we provide something better than a body bag game, but a very winnable game for them. It’s an excellent series opportunity that I doubt we’d ever turn down again.
 
Hoophound said:
Hey. I wish we took that deal. Not doing it was a mistake given our conference situation. However, not being willing to play us because we wanted to play games in our home stadium isn’t really something there should be animosity about. That’s ridiculously petty if that’s the case. We run a classy program in a part of the country that is all about their demographic and we provide something better than a body bag game, but a very winnable game for them. It’s an excellent series opportunity that I doubt we’d ever turn down again.
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Why are you pitching that clown? It isn't like he is the ND AD or anything.

ND can EAD. They suck at hoops and is historically the most overrated program in college football. They have been nothing but a problem for the last two conferences they belonged to.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Why are you pitching that clown? It isn't like he is the ND AD or anything.

ND can EAD. They suck at hoops and is historically the most overrated program in college football. They have been nothing but a problem for the last two conferences they belonged to.
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Not pitching him. Telling him if he’s right, he and ND are petty and that the series probably makes sense for both sides.
 
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TerryD1957 said:
Doubtful since UConn so publicly and adamantly rejected a ten-year scheduling deal offered by ND.
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Of course, that 10 year deal didn't include a single game at home for UConn. That was what the legislature, not the school, reacted to. Personally, I think some kind of deal could've been made. Perhaps something like one that went Notre Dame, neutral, Connecticut, neutral, Notre Dame, neutral, Connecticut, neutral, Notre Dame, neutral.

Notre Dame took a "my way or the highway" approach when the Connecticut legislature wanted to play some games in the brand new stadium they had just paid for. You seem to take offense when people complain about Notre Dame. This is one of the reasons why people do. Now before you say it, you are free to make any deal you want, and if you don't like the terms, you're free not to make it, but again, this is the kind of stuff that leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
 
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