There's no Dark Side .....it's all Dark.
- Aug 26, 2011
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Texas, OU, OSU and Texas Tech.
Presumably Missouri to the SEC
The SEC and Texas A&M now have a legal problem. I always questioned the point of Texas A&M's choreographed "we're leaving on our own volition, not getting raided" dance because anyone who has ever been involved in a tortious interference situation would know that the SEC is way over the wall on this issue if the Big 12 ever wanted to press the claim. A&M's best defense was always going to be that there were no damages, so the Big 12 had no claim. In their perfect world, the Big 12 replaced A&M with BYU or someone with no financial impact to the TV deal, and everyone moved along.
Now there are potentially enormous damages for Iowa State, Baylor, Kansas State, Kansas and Missouri. A starting point would be the value of the Big 12 TV deal to each of those schools over the life of the deal, which is probably in the $200 million area, per school. A&M stipulating that they were leaving the Big 12 with or without an SEC invitation would be a minor point, since there is likely hundreds of emails that will paint a very different story in discovery.
It will be interesting to see what the SEC does here. Are they prepared to take on up to a billion dollars in potential legal liability just to add Texas A&M?
Apparently, the Big12 had already settled an exit figure with Texas A&M, which takes a bite out of their claim. Second factor, don't forget that the ACC was sued by UConn and the BE--to no avail. Third factor, by the time everything is settled, there will only be a few Big12 teams left pressing such a court case. Who are they going to sue? The SEC, Pac12, their former conference mates?
A couple of things. The settlement is only relevant if A&M has fully disclosed the extent of its communications with the SEC and that it was going to the SEC, and if it was actually executed, which I am 99% certain it was not.
The UConn/BE suit was 100% successful. The other BCS schools didn't dare yank the BCS bid, because that would have set up a huge damage claim against the ACC and a potential anti-trust suit against the BCS. In case you forgot, UConn played in the Fiesta Bowl last January.
They will sue the SEC, and likely A&M. The claim will be that the SEC induced A&M to illegally break their contract with the Big 12, resulting in material damages to the members of the Big 12. You could potentially have all 9 Big 12 schools join the suit, although only Iowa State, Baylor and whoever was left out of a major conference would have significant claims.
Not if the PAC-16 and SEC-14 and BE-12 evolves. There might be one team needing reparations at that point. Baylor's Billion Dollar endowment needs feeding. I think Baylor's a better fit with the new BE than some do. I'd take them over Iowa State.
I really don't get this. Why is the Big East better or more financially successful with either Iowa State or Baylor?
More importantly, while many see the need to do something, no matter what the something is, I am not sure what there is to be gained to allow Kansas, K State and Mizzou in. Would I love them in as replacements for departing football schools, if there are any? Absolutely. But in the absence of that, why? How does that increase revenue per school? Why does that make us better? And don't tell me championship game, unless you are willing to say everyone who ridicules the ACC Championship game (which should be ridiculed) is an idiot. What will make ours successful if theres is not?
Upstater to add another point to your post...by adding these 3 schools the football schools at 12 can control and protect their own destiny as well as have the ability to become a basketball super cinference in their own right if they decide to split from the basketball schools.Kansas and Missouri add to the bottom line. They are at least as popular with fans as many of the BE schools. Kansas st, not so much. But more than that, the additional schools would make BE members less likely to jump ship for the ACC, not when the BE can presumably hang together should a school look elsewhere at some point. Unless the SEC comes calling, I don't see a team needing to join the ACC (and take less money) when it knows the BE will hang together should one school depart.
IIRC, there were a handful of home and home games granted to BE schools from the ACC (UConn-UVA was ours) as part of a settlement and the suit waqs dropped at that point (wiuth some minimal financial damages). I don't see how this makes the BE 100% successful but if this is 100% success, the cost (beyond departure fees) to A&M, OU or anyone else leaving the B-12 won't be close to enough to deter them.
I am pretty sure the Big East still has a BCS bid. Correct me if I am wrong.
I don't understand your theory on how someone is going to be sued. Texas Aggies are allowed to leave the conference, just as BC and Miami were. What made the Big East suit reasonable was that BC was serving in special fiduciary positions to the Big East at the time they were leaving, that Miami had made promises that other schools acted upon and that BC and Miami acted in concert. I don't think anyone in College Station is worried about this (although I'm sure they appreciate your concern).
I doubt it's going to happen for the same reason that others begged off suits in the last couple years. There's a stigma involved when you sue. Remember stories of Leach not being hired at Maryland because he was suing ESPN? If those schools have no hope of getting into an AQ conference again, then perhaps they should sue. If I were them, I'd be worried about who I was suing however.