OT: More grammar stuff - irreversible binomials

[HuskyNan]

To and fro
Fore and aft
Vim and vigor
Larry, Moe, and Curly

 

[Bigboote]

Larry, Moe, and Curly

Or Larry Moe and Shemp. Curly Joe doesn't count, and plain-old Joe only counts in that he NEVER should've been a Stooge.

I have my standards. To quote Curly on a tee-shirt I wear frequently, "Beer. It does a knucklehead good."

 

[Jmul760170]

Larry, Moe, and Curly

I'm a Moe Curly and Larry guy myself....

 

[MilfordHusky]

Paige and Azzi

 

[Skeets]

I'm a Moe Curly and Larry guy myself....

I always heard: Moe, Larry, and Curly. Case in point: calling Doctor Howard, Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard.

 

[Samoo]

Intents and purposes
Custom and use
North, south, east and west
Horse and carriage

Well, you don't want to get caught putting the cart before the horse.

 

[Sifaka]

Ellington and Strayhorn
Evers Tinker Chance
Geno and Chris

 

[and one]

Grip and grin
Hugs and kisses
Burns and Allen

In tennis the style of big hitters is often described as Grip and rip.

 

[HuskyNan]

Ellington and Strayhorn
Evers Tinker Chance
Geno and Chris

Isn’t it Tinker to Evers to Chance?

 

[Sifaka]

Isn’t it Tinker to Evers to Chance?

Yes, that is if you are quoting the refrain of a famous poem.

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance."
Trio of bear cubs, and fleeter than birds,
Tinker and Evers and Chance.
Ruthlessly pricking our gonfalon bubble,
Making a Giant hit into a double –
Words that are heavy with nothing but trouble:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance."

If you are listing the 6-4-3 double play infielders, rather than quoting the poem, the prepositions aren't needed.

Think of it as the common collocation, peanut butter and jelly, or pb&j, alongside the origin term, peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

 

[Sifaka]

To and fro
Fore and aft
Vim and vigor
Larry, Moe, and Curly

I first heard “vigor and vim” as a small child in the early 1950s.*


“Horton fought back with great vigor and vim. But the Wickersham gang was too many for him”


*Horton Hears a Who, by Dr. Seuss

 

[Scud49]

Spahn and Sain and Pray for Rain

 

[DennieEddy]

AE (American English) It’s raining cats and dogs.
BE (British English) It’s pissing it down.

to rain heavily:
piss (it) down It's really pissing (it) down here at the moment.

Source; Cambridge Dictionary

BE (Boston English) what a pissah of a rainstorm

 

[DennieEddy]

Bird and Taurasi

Bird & McHale

 

[Skeets]

Mantle and Maris
Butch Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid
Fire and Ice

 

[Sifaka]

Abbott and Costello
Laurel and Hardy
Martin and Lewis

Jay and Kai

 

[Skeets]

Here's a triplet: The good, the bad, and the ugly (has nothing to do with the BY).

 

[Scud49]

Here's a triplet: The good, the bad, and the ugly (has nothing to do with the BY).

I'll raise ya For a Few Dollars More.

 

[CaliHuskyFan]

Law & Order
Prim & Proper
Fire & Brimstone
Cockles & Mussels
Literally I never thought binomial meant anything outside of algebra . . .

 

[CL82]

I first heard “vigor and vim” as a small child in the early 1950s.*

I actually remember it as vim and vigor or sometimes vip and vigor.

Definition of VIM AND VIGOR

energy and enthusiasm… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[DennieEddy]

Pride & Joy
Balls & Strikes
Hit & Run

Seriously, all baseball fans: isn't the hit & run play ACTUALLY run & hit. The baserunner takes off first to draw an infielder out of position to create a gap for the batter to hit through!

 

[DennieEddy]

Law & Order
Prim & Proper
Fire & Brimstone
Cockles & Mussels
Literally I never thought binomial meant anything outside of algebra . . .

Cackles & who??

 

[Sifaka]

I actually remember it as vim and vigor or sometimes vip and vigor.

Definition of VIM AND VIGOR

energy and enthusiasm… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

No doubt it was a well known collocation as you remember it. Given the popularity of Dr. Seuss's Horton Hears a Who, which reversed the order, we now have two well known collocations. As they are directionally opposites, I wonder if the term “irreversible” can be applied to either?

 

[jcoton56]

Tit for tat, but I really don’t know what tat is.

 

[Sifaka]

Tit for tat, but I really don’t know what tat is.

In the context of this phrase, the meanings are not what you may have expedted.

“What's the origin of the phrase 'Tit for tat'?
It’s tempting to assume that this little phrase is another way of saying ‘this for that’ and, in a way, it is. ‘Tit’ and ‘tat’ are both the names of small blows which originated as ‘tip’ and ‘tap’. These are recorded by Charles, Duke of Orleans in a book of poems that he wrote while captive in England after the battle of Agincourt and first published circa 1466:

“Strokis grete, not tippe nor tapp.” “

source: Tit For Tat - Meaning & Origin Of The Phrase

 

[DaddyChoc]

Bells & Whistles

 

[Sifaka]

Belts and braces.

 

[WiseWillie]

I must admit I am an absolute beginner in some respects and while fully aware I deeply regret to never reach a clear understanding of what the Boneyard considers common knowledge even when the dogs bark. It's the ying and yang of it that takes getting used to but between you and me it can be either/or strength and endurance but I will neither confirm nor deny the results.

 

[Kolumbo]

Stockton to Malone
1st & 10
dollars to donuts
hide nor hair

I'm gonna put a huge pet peave of mine here. "You can send it to Joe or I." So many people use "I" as a direct object and it makes me cringe. Tonight we were at a high school open-house and one session was led by two English teachers. These are ladies who have extensive education and read many many books. How an English can wrap up the session by saying "The best way to reach us is to send an e-mail to Lori or I" is just so incomprehensible to I.

 

[jcoton56]

Hammer & Tongs