OT: MLB - Over the last full year Aaron Judge is basically Babe Ruth

[jibsey]

Dude lets relax. Hes hitting .430 yeah but April just finished. If hes still over .400 on July 1rst then we can start talking historical and him being the best hitter in the game. Its far too early for that and its not like hes mashing homers and rbi at some insane rate. He has 2 homeruns and 2 rbi more than Pete Alonso. Also Pete Alonso is a lifetime .250 hitter and hes at .345 right now and has been in the .350s most of April and unlike my blood pressure thats likely to come down at some point. Lets wait and see.

Year to year, May 1 through May 1 full season look at the numbers. They are crazy Ruth and Gehrig like batting average, HR and RBI’s against tougher pitchers. How many guys throwing 95to 100 back then? Just a few. Today? Everyone.

 

[storrsroars]

Maybe he should dress himself up in funny costumes.

i’d say he’s more like Apollo Creed.

You Yankee fans can't even agree.

Judge could use a little Apollo Creed flamboyance, imo. But to suggest he already has that is silly.

 

[storrsroars]

I know baseball way outside of Yankee stuff and of course there is other great guys and stories but your analogy of Judge makes me believe you don’t leave Pittsburgh all that much.

Well I have lived in 5 states and 3 countries and been to at least half the parks in MLB, but please tell me more.

And I was commenting to Jibsey, not you.

 

[Deepster]

Unfortunately none of this matters until Judge does something in October. To this point, all this in season success just makes those 0-4 with 4 strikeout playoff games scream that much louder.

 

[Scoe]

No question Judge has to do it in the playoffs, Bonds didn't get it done either as great as he was. No one is the Babe he got 2 dynasties started, the Yankees were the loser team in NY before he arrived there. Come to think it baseball teams being built back then was a bit like the portal era in a way.

 

[mauconnfan]

Well I have lived in 5 states and 3 countries and been to at least half the parks in MLB, but please tell me more.

And I was commenting to Jibsey, not you.

Your narrow minded thinking of Yankee fans is ignorant honestly.

 

[Waquoit]

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Now do rings

 

[Jaydumo20]

You Yankee fans can't even agree.

Judge could use a little Apollo Creed flamboyance, imo. But to suggest he already has that is silly.

I do agree that he isn't a big personality. He's a good guy, and a great player and that makes me like him more. I didn't like the Jeter yankees teams but I actually like this yankees team. Maybe because they still haven't won

 

[Vuce]

You Yankee fans can't even agree.

Judge could use a little Apollo Creed flamboyance, imo. But to suggest he already has that is silly.

Apollo Creed was likable the Drago character was not. My original point stands - living in the middle of Sox fans everywhere - they don’t hate Judge at all. If Judge isn’t flamboyant enough for your taste, that’s fine and your preference for what you’d like to see in a sports figure.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Reference the pic in Post #21. That IS forever! So would batting over 0.400 be, if he can sustain it for the next 5 months. Possible, yes; probable, not so much.

Yes, some things do last forever; an error by an outfielder in the middle of a world series game when his team is down three games to one, an error by a first baseman in extra innings if a world series game six when his team was up three games to two and on the verge of clinching the series, having eighty five seasons played between world series titles.

Yes, some things do last forever.

 

[Waquoit]

Judge seems like a good dude and is too excellent a ballplayer to hate. Glad the Yanks finally got around to paying the man.

 

[notthestuff]

You Yankee fans can't even agree.

Judge could use a little Apollo Creed flamboyance, imo. But to suggest he already has that is silly.

My son went to Aaron Judge camp last year. I was assuming it would be like all of the professional camps I’ve experienced being involved in youth sports for a long time, he’d show up at the end give a speech and take a group picture. Was a little surprised to see him at the start but then realized it was a game day so he probably needed to get out quick. Was totally shocked when he never left. There were about 200 kids basically playing 10 different games of wiffle ball for 4 hours and he spent time in every game and pitched to every single kid at the camp. Couldn’t believe it.

I can totally understand someone thinking he’s boring or not wanting him to do well because he’s a Yankee but it’s pretty weird and silly to compare liking him to rooting for a movie villain that killed someone in the ring and didn’t care.

 

[mauconnfan]

Yes, some things do last forever; an error by an outfielder in the middle of a world series game when his team is down three games to one, an error by a first baseman in extra innings if a world series game six when his team was up three games to two and on the verge of clinching the series, having eighty five seasons played between world series titles.

Yes, some things do last forever.

You know what else does, batting .322 with 58 homers and 144 RBI. A season like that lasts forever as well and geez he’s had a couple imagine that.

 

[storrsroars]

My son went to Aaron Judge camp last year. I was assuming it would be like all of the professional camps I’ve experienced being involved in youth sports for a long time, he’d show up at the end give a speech and take a group picture. Was a little surprised to see him at the start but then realized it was a game day so he probably needed to get out quick. Was totally shocked when he never left. There were about 200 kids basically playing 10 different games of wiffle ball for 4 hours and he spent time in every game and pitched to every single kid at the camp. Couldn’t believe it.

I can totally understand someone thinking he’s boring or not wanting him to do well because he’s a Yankee but it’s pretty weird and silly to compare liking him to rooting for a movie villain that killed someone in the ring and didn’t care.

Nice story. I'm getting the impression he's a nice boring guy who avoids attention when not at the park. Nothing wrong with that. We don't hear much about him out here in the hinterlands other than his physique and power. Which was why I made the Drago comparison. You got me on that, I never remember he killed anyone, just the emotionless part

 

[mauconnfan]

My son went to Aaron Judge camp last year. I was assuming it would be like all of the professional camps I’ve experienced being involved in youth sports for a long time, he’d show up at the end give a speech and take a group picture. Was a little surprised to see him at the start but then realized it was a game day so he probably needed to get out quick. Was totally shocked when he never left. There were about 200 kids basically playing 10 different games of wiffle ball for 4 hours and he spent time in every game and pitched to every single kid at the camp. Couldn’t believe it.

I can totally understand someone thinking he’s boring or not wanting him to do well because he’s a Yankee but it’s pretty weird and silly to compare liking him to rooting for a movie villain that killed someone in the ring and didn’t care.

Great story thank you for sharing!

 

[Scoe]

Threads like this never age well. Now the OP might have just put Judge into a massive slump.

 

[Dove]

I'm not in the NY media market. To me, he's as bland and corporate a baseball personality as they come. Jeter never gave up much of himself in interviews, but at least he dated hotties and had ARod as a foil.

 

[storrsroars]

Your narrow minded thinking of Yankee fans is ignorant honestly.

I don't have a narrow opinion of Yankee fans. There are all kinds. I've had fun with them in Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Boston. Not so much in NY. I do have an informed opinion of Jibs based on history. I don't know what set you off as I haven't slighted you and you're one of my favorite BYers.

Yankee fans who travel to games are as baseball-savvy and fun conversationalists as any in the game. Well, maybe not when they're in Boston, but I've had only good experiences elsewhere.

 

[jibsey]

My son went to Aaron Judge camp last year. I was assuming it would be like all of the professional camps I’ve experienced being involved in youth sports for a long time, he’d show up at the end give a speech and take a group picture. Was a little surprised to see him at the start but then realized it was a game day so he probably needed to get out quick. Was totally shocked when he never left. There were about 200 kids basically playing 10 different games of wiffle ball for 4 hours and he spent time in every game and pitched to every single kid at the camp. Couldn’t believe it.

I can totally understand someone thinking he’s boring or not wanting him to do well because he’s a Yankee but it’s pretty weird and silly to compare liking him to rooting for a movie villain that killed someone in the ring and didn’t care.

Great story! Amazing because the demands on his time aside from baseball must be enormous.

 

[mauconnfan]

I don't have a narrow opinion of Yankee fans. There are all kinds. I've had fun with them in Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Boston. Not so much in NY. I do have an informed opinion of Jibs based on history. I don't know what set you off as I haven't slighted you and you're one of my favorite BYers.

Yankee fans who travel to games are as baseball-savvy and fun conversationalists as any in the game. Well, maybe not when they're in Boston, but I've had only good experiences elsewhere.

I think it was the early “Judge fanboys” start and “jackwagons” which I may have misinterpreted as pointing to Yankee fans. Whatever I’m done with this and I enjoy your posts as well ( minus the Yanks lol ) my bad. Red Sox fans are as bad as any fan in baseball since 2004 when a Yankee fan enters Fenway!!

 

[FfldCntyFan]

There are quite a few things that some appear to neglect when praising the superiority of current players to that of prior players, an in all candor it is close to impossible to directly compare one era to another, but the quality of prior era is a lot closer to more current baseball than many are willing to admit.

One case in point is pitching. In today's game it seems velocity is all most teams care about. Greg Maddux wouldn't be given a sniff these days (as he could only on rare occasion hit mid 90's) but I would wager heavily that he would be more dominant against today's hitters than he was when he was in his prime thirty years ago.

Earlier eras of baseball had to face pitchers throwing from a higher mound, with the ability to brush a batter back if he started leaning over the plate (without a batting helmet until the 1950's). Batters couldn't dig in the way they do today.

 

[mauconnfan]

There are quite a few things that some appear to neglect when praising the superiority of current players to that of prior players, an in all candor it is close to impossible to directly compare one era to another, but the quality of prior era is a lot closer to more current baseball than many are willing to admit.

One case in point is pitching. In today's game it seems velocity is all most teams care about. Greg Maddux wouldn't be given a sniff these days (as he could only on rare occasion hit mid 90's) but I would wager heavily that he would be more dominant against today's hitters than he was when he was in his prime thirty years ago.

Earlier eras of baseball had to face pitchers throwing from a higher mound, with the ability to brush a batter back if he started leaning over the plate (without a batting helmet until the 1950's). Batters couldn't dig in the way they do today.

Agree on Maddux especially with the league now full of .220/.230 hitters all over the place. His stuff would make these crappy hitters buckle no doubt. What I would add though is if baseball ever went to removing the home plate ump in favor of technology as they are talking about, he and especially Glavine wouldn’t be half as good. Their “plates were huge with blue” back in the day, corners extended.

 

[TheChamps990411]

Year to year, May 1 through May 1 full season look at the numbers. They are crazy Ruth and Gehrig like batting average, HR and RBI’s against tougher pitchers. How many guys throwing 95to 100 back then? Just a few. Today? Everyone.

Pitchers dont succeed in baseball because they can throw 95-100. They do so because they change speed and locate. The season is April through October. I dont care what his stats are in a certain period are. Hes a great player whos numbers stand on their own without needing to nitpick time periods. Hes a great player. We get it.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Year to year, May 1 through May 1 full season look at the numbers. They are crazy Ruth and Gehrig like batting average, HR and RBI’s against tougher pitchers. How many guys throwing 95to 100 back then? Just a few. Today? Everyone.

They didn’t have to throw 95 to 100 back then, the mound was a foot higher and the ball wasn’t nearly as juiced up as it is now. That being said, in the late 1930’s there was an 18 year old farm boy named Bob Feller who could throw 103-107. Had a lot of strikeouts too, despite losing 4 years to the Navy during WW2.

 

[uconnfan68]

It's harder to hit pitchers today but keep in mind the Babe did it on booze and cigars that's GOAT status right there.

And lots of hot dogs.