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Mike Aresco Unloads on CFB Playoff Committee & ESPN on Latest Rankings

USF didn’t beat a team as good as:

North Texas
Troy
Army
Kentucky
Syracuse
Wyoming
Ohio
Marshall
Duke
 
whaler11 said:
Auburn?

NC State and Virginia Tech are better than South Florida too.

The ACC is light years better than the AAC.

Clemson beat Boston College who is one slot behind USF in the composite computer rankings going into this week. (Wake and Lousiville were ahead of USF who Clemson beat too).

So by the composite computer rankings going into this weekend - Clemson has 5 wins better than USF and is working on #6 with South Carolina.

But other than that - sure.
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My point is that USF is better than South Carolina but it looks like Clemson got the better win this weekend vs UCF. Wasn't specific enough but thanks for debunking all those other things. Anyway we'll find out how good they are when they get to play Middle Tennessee in the Hale Bowl.
 
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zls44 said:
When the hell did we earn it? 2010?
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Not just that, but the other bowl games we've played in and won, too. The narrative by ESPN, especially at the height of our climb of 2010, was always negative.

If you don't believe me, try to recall the stories that came out of the Fiesta. Like I said, I know they're your employer, so feel free to continue on with your stance...
 
Hoophound said:
I 100% disagree. The difference between a full Rent and a half full Rent is not just wins and losses. A full Rent will require not only a pretty good team, but a team that ESPN declares worth seeing. Perception is reality. College sports are the ultimate display of perception being reality.

In both football and basketball, ESPN determines who is good and who isn’t. ESPN routinely says teams with near .500 records are good because it fits their narrative. ESPN makes or breaks leagues and programs and they know it.

If you want the fans to come back, it takes more than wins, it takes ESPN endorsing us as worth watching. We have a fan base that is used to winning titles. Our casual fan wants to see games that matter. Our games won’t matter until ESPN proclaims so. It is sad, but totally true.
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Agree, but for another reason. High school recruits are fans of ESPN. They are also influenced by what they see and hear.
 
whaler11 said:
Auburn?

NC State and Virginia Tech are better than South Florida too.

The ACC is light years better than the AAC.

Clemson beat Boston College who is one slot behind USF in the composite computer rankings going into this week. (Wake and Lousiville were ahead of USF who Clemson beat too).

So by the composite computer rankings going into this weekend - Clemson has 5 wins better than USF and is working on #6 with South Carolina.

But other than that - sure.
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The ACCis not light years better. It's better at the upper tier on most days. UCF can hang with any ACC team you put up bar none. USF and Memphis can hang with most, other than Clemson and Miami. You're spewing regurgitated pablum.
 
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BlueDogs said:
The ACCis not light years better. It's better at the upper tier on most days. UCF can hang with any ACC team you put up bar none. USF and Memphis can hang with most, other than Clemson and Miami. You're spewing regurgitated pablum.
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Are we just going to pretend that the AAC doesn’t have a half dozen god awful teams?

Seriously I know people want something to be true - it’s not even close.
 
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BlueDogs said:
The ACCis not light years better. It's better at the upper tier on most days. UCF can hang with any ACC team you put up bar none. USF and Memphis can hang with most, other than Clemson and Miami. You're spewing regurgitated pablum.
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bad take
 
Hoophound said:
I 100% disagree. The difference between a full Rent and a half full Rent is not just wins and losses. A full Rent will require not only a pretty good team, but a team that ESPN declares worth seeing. Perception is reality. College sports are the ultimate display of perception being reality.

In both football and basketball, ESPN determines who is good and who isn’t. ESPN routinely says teams with near .500 records are good because it fits their narrative. ESPN makes or breaks leagues and programs and they know it.

If you want the fans to come back, it takes more than wins, it takes ESPN endorsing us as worth watching. We have a fan base that is used to winning titles. Our casual fan wants to see games that matter. Our games won’t matter until ESPN proclaims so. It is sad, but totally true.
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I have my reasons for disliking ESPN as much as anybody, but putting UCONN's Attendance issues on them is silly. They are not going to spend air time pumping up a team with a sub .500 record 5 out of the last 6 seasons. What could they possibly say? ESPN is a business, and The AAC as a whole is made up of schools with mostly small fickle fan bases. Not exactly a great group to be targeting. The blame ultimately has to fall on your administration for making terrible coaching hires that bottomed out a once promising program.

Being in The AAC isn't ideal, but it hasn't stopped other programs from competing at a high level. The key is consistently being able to make good hires. Coaching matters. Recruiting really matters. UCONN did neither well for half a decade and the product reflected it. You can say perception equals reality but when you are winning 4 games and recruiting below teams in Conference USA and The Sunbelt maybe it's time to point your fingers elsewhere than the media.
 
The computers say that a team that lost to Troy is really good. Likewise one that lost to Ol Miss. oh and that Alabama and Miami and Miss State would all win this weekend.

Hey how’s about we go by computer rankings instead of playing actual games. Really cut down on injuries, too. Maybe tweeters thumb instead of concussions.
 
freescooter said:
The computers say that a team that lost to Troy is really good. Likewise one that lost to Ol Miss. oh and that Alabama and Miami and Miss State would all win this weekend.

Hey how’s about we go by computer rankings instead of playing actual games. Really cut down on injuries, too. Maybe tweeters thumb instead of concussions.
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In case anyone wanted proof that this conversation was hopeless - here it is.

Remember one guy who watched .00001% of the action on the season is how the teams should be ranked.

You’d think you would have at least picked up on USF not being that good since they came to Rentschler and looked like complete garbage.
 
Jimdish255 said:
My point is that USF is better than South Carolinal.
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On what do you base USF being better than South Carolina. Personal preference. That they are in the AAC? Both polls have them ranked higher.
 
whaler11 said:
Auburn?

NC State and Virginia Tech are better than South Florida too.

The ACC is light years better than the AAC.

Clemson beat Boston College who is one slot behind USF in the composite computer rankings going into this week. (Wake and Lousiville were ahead of USF who Clemson beat too).

So by the composite computer rankings going into this weekend - Clemson has 5 wins better than USF and is working on #6 with South Carolina.

But other than that - sure.
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SCAR beat Wofford and La Tech and lost to bunch of lousy SEC teams. They beat Tenn 15-6. USF would beat them easily.
 
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SubbaBub said:
SCAR beat Wofford and La Tech and lost to bunch of lousy SEC teams. They beat Tenn 15-6. USF would beat them easily.
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Sure they would. It’s nice that you think that but USF played 2 teams in the top 80 and lost to both of them.

South Carolina has three wins better than anyone USF beat.

But I’m sure they would beat them ‘easily’.

It’s amazing the posters in this thread aren’t millionaires retired from their gambling winnings.
 
HartfordHank said:
On what do you base USF being better than South Carolina. Personal preference. That they are in the AAC? Both polls have them ranked higher.
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I recall a squad from Connecticut that stood no chance against USC in a bowl and allegedly didn't even belong on the same field... nuff said... same arguments made then. One advantage of having been around long enough is realizing there is a ton of BS that get recirculated .
 
BlueDogs said:
I recall a squad from Connecticut that stood no chance against USC in a bowl and allegedly didn't even belong on the same field... nuff said... same arguments made then. One advantage of having been around long enough is realizing there is a ton of BS that get recirculated .
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So because UConn upset South Carolina in a meaningless bowl game in 2010 that makes USF better than South Carolina this year? Magical logic!
 
HartfordHank said:
So because UConn upset South Carolina in a meaningless bowl game in 2010 that makes USF better than South Carolina this year? Magical logic!
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It's more logical than saying the SEC is better because it's the SEC. There are too many cases that prove the case otherwise year in and year out. How about Houston destroying OU? Or, USF taking down Auburn s few years back? As I said, once you get past the top few teams in any P5, they become rather unremarkabe and carry no presumptive entitlements of superiority.
 
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BlueDogs said:
It's more logical than saying the SEC is better because it's the SEC. There are too many cases that prove the case otherwise year in and year out. How about Houston destroying OU? Or, USF taking down Auburn s few years back? As I said, once you get past the top few teams in any P5, they become rather unremarkabe and carry no presumptive entitlements of superiority.
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The AAC is the 6th best CFB conference. There is no shame in that other than the line in the sand was drawn at 5 for cartel purposes and they control all the money. Do I think UCF can compete for a conference crown in the Big 12? Probably. The top 3 CFB conferences are the SEC, B1G,and the ACC. AAC is nowhere near that level, not when you have teams like UConn that right now would struggle in the Sun Belt and I'm being generous by not saying the CAA.
 
whaler11 said:
Sure they would. It’s nice that you think that but USF played 2 teams in the top 80 and lost to both of them.

South Carolina has three wins better than anyone USF beat.

But I’m sure they would beat them ‘easily’.

It’s amazing the posters in this thread aren’t millionaires retired from their gambling winnings.
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They can't figure out the difference between #4 and #5. You think the ratings between 40 and 100 make any difference? Or are you saying that just being in the SEC makes a team Better?

These are the same people that has Miss State ranked in the top 20.
 
SubbaBub said:
They can't figure out the difference between #4 and #5. You think the ratings between 40 and 100 make any difference? Or are you saying that just being in the SEC makes a team Better?

These are the same people that has Miss State ranked in the top 20.
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I’m talking about composite computer rankings.

And Mississippi State is one of the 20-25 best teams in the country.

Did you miss when Florida stole their coach this weekend?

They lost to Mississippi? Did you miss when their QB dislocated his ankle in the first quarter?

Ratings between 40-100 aren’t any different? So there is no difference between Iowa and Rutgers? West Virginia and UNLV? Oregon and UMass?
 
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J187Money said:
College Football Ranking Composite

Wisconsin is now #1 in the composite rankings. Can't wait for Saturday!!
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If I'm reading this right, there are a bunch of computer models that have UCF higher than Oklahoma, even though the composite score is lower. There's even one computer ranking that has UCF at #1 (Wolfe?).

It's almost certain that they will not be able to play in the playoffs, even if they beat a Memphis team that is currently a composite #18. They would need a lot of luck to break their way...
 
J187Money said:
College Football Ranking Composite

Wisconsin is now #1 in the composite rankings. Can't wait for Saturday!!
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Interesting that Georgia and Alabama, each with one loss, are ranked ahead of an Auburn team that has beaten both schools. Neither of the games were really close, fluke types of game, or where a key player was injured. I think you have to rank Auburn higher than both of them. Head to head has to mean something.
 
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HartfordHank said:
Interesting that Georgia and Alabama, each with one loss, are ranked ahead of an Auburn team that has beaten both schools. Neither of the games were really close, fluke types of game, or where a key player was injured. I think you have to rank Auburn higher than both of them. Head to head has to mean something.
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They still lost twice. Computers don't like losing. That's why Wisconsin is #1 and UCF is ranked higher than they probably should be. Why the old BCS system wasn't ONLY based on computer rankings.
 
I still think South Florida would beat South Carolina by 10+ I don't feel sorry for them because of the awful OOC schedule they had this year, but that doesn't mean they aren't a good team or that there isn't an agenda in play when they get pushed outside the top 25. There is.
 
UCF, USF and Memphis are P5 teams while there are at least 20 so called P5 teams that really aren't.

Unfortunately you can't pick your parents.
 
2-10
7-6
6-7
2-10
1-11
2-10
4-8
3-9


What’s that you ask?

Memphis’ records from 2006-2013 in CUSA.

What a mighty mighty program.

I’m sure they are here to stay.
 
whaler11 said:
2-10
7-6
6-7
2-10
1-11
2-10
4-8
3-9


What’s that you ask?

Memphis’ records from 2006-2013 in CUSA.

What a mighty mighty program.

I’m sure they are here to stay.
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Yea but then they went 10-3 9-4 8-5 and 10-1 (so far). So the last third of the decade from when they've been in the American have been trending up for them. That's like rejecting a kid from college because through elementary and middle school he was a little goofy regardless of the turn around in high school. To you point.. I guess it could be a fluke and he could still be a dummy, but they're trending the right direction at the right time.
 
Hamms30 said:
Yea but then they went 10-3 9-4 8-5 and 10-1 (so far). So the last third of the decade from when they've been in the American have been trending up for them. That's like rejecting a kid from college because through elementary and middle school he was a little goofy regardless of the turn around in high school. To you point.. I guess it could be a fluke and he could still be a dummy, but they're trending the right direction at the right time.
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There is a difference between teams and programs.

They have a really good team. I suspect they win on Saturday.

They are light years away from a good program.
 
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