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Mike Anthony: Another miserable UConn football season is not cause for Randy Edsall’s firing

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Edsall is going to stay on while the AD slowly drains the football budget more and more until they cut the whole program in <5 years
 
businesslawyer said:
The entirety of the argument is not you can't fire a guy who won 6 games in 3 seasons because it will scare off other coaches. That's not any of the argument in the real world.

The argument is that Edsall took the job telling the AD that it was going to be a long, slow, tough slog to rebuild, and given what HCVV did to the program the AD, rightly or wrongly, accepted Edsall's analysis. I happen to think, as I said above, that it was mostly the right analysis with the exception that Year 1 could have been better. If that's your argument, firing him because you knew you were going to suck but hoped you'd suck a little less doesn't make sense. I think after next season one can tell whether or not progress is being made.
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Edsall has told anyone that will listen that its a long, slow, tough slog to rebuild UConn.

I would rather roll the dice with another guy leading the program. We always say it can't get worse, but I honestly don't think it can. There is zero hope for anything. Realistically, does anyone believe in Edsall anymore?
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Edsall has told anyone that will listen that its a long, slow, tough slog to rebuild UConn.

I would rather roll the dice with another guy leading the program. We always say it can't get worse, but I honestly don't think it can. There is zero hope for anything. Realistically, does anyone believe in Edsall anymore?
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Benedict seems to. He pretty much Trumps us all.
 
CL82 said:
So you are saying we are dominating the northeast?


It's less about Randy than the message it sends to future coaching prospects. "Come to UConn and play in empty stadium 30 miles off campus without any bowl affiliations. Oh and we won't give you a chance to turn the program around since we cycle in new coaches every three and have been doing it the last decade." Once we committed to Randy we were locked into 4 years unless he started hitting kids with a bat.
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i think I just have a different view of version 2 of HCRE (and this is from a charter member of the apologist club. And someone who thinks he sincerely cares about his players and whose former players think very highly of him as a mentor). The improvement this team has shown is microscopic. This is not a team where I look at and say I see SIGNIFICANT improvement even if the record doesn’t reflect it.

There are coaches that embrace a challenge, hungry coaches in the lower levels that know they can right the ship. There are Chip Kellys, Paul Johnsons, Jim Tressels (before the issues) waiting for an opportunity at the FBS level. Dynamic coaches who want to make a program that has been in the dumpster a winner - and then leave for a P5 job. And that’s cool, because it means they made our program better.

make no mistake next year will be another year of little improvement. And Edsall will be gone after the year. Another year wasted.

You get a coach who runs a spread offense and can show recruits - there are going to be Very good grad transfers and JUCOs signing on to help the rebuild. Edsall has not shown he can get the amount of those types of players needed.
 
Bongo Fury said:
I believe UMASS thought the same when canning underpaid and under supported Whipple. It can get worse
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It cannot get worse. How anyone, after watching Edsall 2.0, can say this can get worse is crazy. What is worse? Zero conference wins. Barely beat a 1-11 FCS team. Other win was against the worst team in FBS.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
There are 50 open HC jobs already. UConn should hold off a year and wait for a little less competition for talent.
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Next year is going to tough being the first year as an independent. I don't think throwing a new guy into that is a recipe for success. Give HCRE one more year and tell him if he doesn't get bowl eligible he's getting the sack.
 
Waquoit said:
Next year is going to tough being the first year as an independent. I don't think throwing a new guy into that is a recipe for success. Give HCRE one more year and tell him if he doesn't get bowl eligible he's getting the sack.
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Or very close to a bowl game with tangible signs of moving in the right direction. But essentially, this.
 
History Geek said:
Or very close to a bowl game with tangible signs of moving in the right direction. But essentially, this.
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I don't want to get too wobbly with the bar. For example, 4 wins and he's gone. I don't want to hear about "progress". Four wins after 4 years isn't worth rewarding. Thank him for righting the ship and changing the culture and send him packing. Five we have a discussion, six he stays if he wants.
 
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zls44 said:
Randy Edsall is not being fired, period. From the article at the top of the thread:

I came to Philadelphia Saturday not wondering whether UConn could defeat Temple, but seeking thoughts from the program’s two leaders. Many would argue, I said to Benedict at halftime, that the process should be farther along than it is.

“I totally disagree,” he said. “You can’t just look at it in the window of Randy’s three years. You have to look at the previous six years. When you have four different head coaches leading a program in the span of six years, you’re totally rebuilding from the ground up, just in the nature of how recruiting classes work. When you have a transition year between coaches, you in essence lose a class. A coaching staff, it takes a year or two to develop the relationships to recruit the kids that they want. Obviously, you can’t do that in 30 days. So we’ve had multiple transitions in a short period of time.”

Is Edsall still the right man for the job? Why?

“Absolutely,” Benedict said. “For the same reasons we brought him here. Randy understands how to evaluate kids we can recruit to UConn, which is different than other places. And he understands what it takes to develop kids. He's very disciplined. He's very straightforward with the guys. You're beginning to see some of the younger talent develop. That's an evolution and you can't speed that up in the sport of football. It takes so many kids to be successful in a game and over the course of an entire season.”
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The problem is the landscape has changed, you can’t incrementally built while being dispirited due to losing on the field. Today, guys exit via the transfer portal under those conditions and then your rebuilt is even further behind. The OL is an example of this phenomenon. We may start winning more due to having 6 -7winnable games on the schedule compared to 2-4. But, if we are only beating the New England schools not named BC, it’s not really progress.
 
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NEPat10 said:
Am I in the minority wanting Orlovsky to be the coach of this team?
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I would say yes you are. First....I believe Dan 0 himself said he wasn't interested because he has better work life balance as a commentator.

Second...he has NO coaching experience. Maybe bring him in to coach offense or QBs and have him learn. But no way right into head coach.

But...I really don't think he is interested.
 
Randy is the only constant in this equation we have had a revolving door of assistant coaches. How can you have a continuity f anything when you constantly change assistants? the players are learning completely different systems every year. Crocker was terrible and should have been replaced, but what makes anyone think that Spanos will stay and see the program through? I would say it is going to be a wait and see approach for next year for Randy, but how many of this years coaches will be back? Will Giuffre improve on offense next year or will he leave it to another coach to take over. there are too may variables to contemplate going into next year but one thing is certain. UCONN has a tough time retaining their good assistants.
 
He will get us some special recruits from Montreal and Manitoba, just you watch. These kids will be dual sport hockey and basketball. We will be REstorred in two sports.
 
Your assistants pay pool determines your assistants. Rutgers just committed close to 7 or 8 million while our pool is about 1.5 million. This isn't on Randy - it's the university commitment. P5 schools pay more for assistants than UConn pays RE. So he is in a tough spot - he can't keep someone who is successful because of money and opportunity. He can't bring someone experienced in for the money we offer.

If UConn fans want a bigger assistant pool and even a new HC - show up to games, donate to the program and you will be able to get what you want. Right now, at 10K attendance- and a few years away from athletic department profitability - unless a megadonor shows up - this is our lot.
 
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hardcorehusky said:
Your assistants pay pool determines your assistants. Rutgers just committed close to 7 or 8 million while our pool is about 1.5 million.
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Rutgers agreed to $7.7m. UConn is currently paying $1.8m.
 
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