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junglehusky said:
While I think it's perfectly feasible that UConn could/should be talking to the B1G through back-channels right now, i have a hard time believing we'd be as realistic of a shot as MD or RU until our stadium is filled and plans were going forward to expand to the size of their stadiua (at least 50k). They miiiight give us a little leeway because of basketball but I don't think it would be much.

Now as to whether to stay in the NNBE while waiting on the B1G, this should be done ONLY if Herbst can get some assurances that Uconn will definitely be invited in ~5 years if we do X, Y and Z in terms of the stadium or whatever.
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I agree. It's risky but I really do think that UConn and the B1G makes sense. It almost happened a few years ago and might have if we had an AD other than Hathaway. But yes, if Herbst is told that UConn is a B1G long-shot, then go to the ACC.
 
We're not getting into the B1G.

If we get into the ACC and then the B1G comes calling, well that's a great problem to have. In which case, we'll figure it out.


Till then, back to reality.
 
Dooley said:
I agree. It's risky but I really do think that UConn and the B1G makes sense. It almost happened a few years ago and might have if we had an AD other than Hathaway. But yes, if Herbst is told that UConn is a B1G long-shot, then go to the ACC.
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You keep saying it "almost" happened. Exactly how did it "almost happen." The only thing we know (and we don't even really know this but it seems a safe bet) is the Big Ten looked at us when they were looking at all the possibilities.
 
Dooley said:
Okay, but that would still assume that we'd have to pay another exit fee (however negotiated with the ACC) in addition to paying an exit fee from the Big East. That's a tough sell for a state school in an economy like this and a state that is $1B in the hole.

All I'm saying is that if there is the slightest chance of getting an invite from the B1G in the next next year or so, and I think that there is (we were on their radar back in 2010), then I think the play is to hold out for it. Like I said in other posts, the ACC will always be there and will probably have a few open slots when the SEC raids FSU/Clemson/VT.
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What I'm saying to you is that the state of Connecticut will not have to pay a dime, even if it is hit with a 50 million dollar exit fee. This is something like how it would work (and how it will work for Maryland as well):

Year 1 of B1G: UConn gets 5 million in revenue instead of 24 million, 19 to the repayment of the B1G for covering the ACC buyout (I haven't found the link yet)
Year 2 of B1G: UConn gets 7 million in revenue instead of 24 million, 17 million to the repayment
Year 3 of B1G: UConn gets 10 million in revenue instead of 24 million, 14 million to the repayment
Year 4 of B1G: UConn has fulfilled its repayment to the B1G of the ACC, receives full 24 million dollar amount.

This is already being discussed for Maryland, because if you think there are hard times for money for UConn, Maryland is in the crapper (they've already scrapped multiple athletic programs)...
 
businesslawyer said:
You keep saying it "almost" happened. Exactly how did it "almost happen." The only thing we know (and we don't even really know this but it seems a safe bet) is the Big Ten looked at us when they were looking at all the possibilities.
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You're right, we don't KNOW for sure until all involved parties are lined up at the podium of their announcing press conferences. Let me rephrase: UConn is on the B1G's radar and have been studied as recent and as publicly as 2010. I'm sure they have looked at/studied many universities but I do believe a UConn/B1G partnership benefits both parties, especially if they are adding RU as reported.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
What I'm saying to you is that the state of Connecticut will not have to pay a dime, even if it is hit with a 50 million dollar exit fee. This is something like how it would work (and how it will work for Maryland as well):

Year 1 of B1G: UConn gets 5 million in revenue instead of 24 million, 19 to the repayment of the B1G for covering the ACC buyout (I haven't found the link yet)
Year 2 of B1G: UConn gets 7 million in revenue instead of 24 million, 17 million to the repayment
Year 3 of B1G: UConn gets 10 million in revenue instead of 24 million, 14 million to the repayment
Year 4 of B1G: UConn has fulfilled its repayment to the B1G of the ACC, receives full 24 million dollar amount.

This is already being discussed for Maryland, because if you think there are hard times for money for UConn, Maryland is in the crapper (they've already scrapped multiple athletic programs)...
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Oh okay...if something like this is an option, I'll pull off my "taxpayer pay two exit fees" worry. If this is the case, then sure, dance with the ACC but make it perfectly obvious to the B1G that we have a wandering eye.
 
Dooley said:
Oh okay...if something like this is an option, I'll pull off my "taxpayer pay two exit fees" worry. If this is the case, then sure, dance with the ACC but make it perfectly obvious to the B1G that we have a wandering eye.
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If I may be so bold, I think that the BigTen and the SEC realize that everyone else in the country has wandering eyes and would likely jump at any offer to join either of those two conferences. They are indeed the kings of money and of access in this new world of college sports...
 
UConnDan97 said:
If I may be so bold, I think that the BigTen and the SEC realize that everyone else in the country has wandering eyes and would likely jump at any offer to join either of those two conferences. They are indeed the kings of money and of access in this new world of college sports...
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What happens when they bored and start offering each other? Ohio State to the SEC!
 
whaler11 said:
What happens when they bored and start offering each other? Ohio State to the SEC!
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Why would Ohio State do that? They enjoy being undefeated...:confused:
 
UConnDan97 said:
If I may be so bold, I think that the BigTen and the SEC realize that everyone else in the country has wandering eyes and would likely jump at any offer to join either of those two conferences. They are indeed the kings of money and of access in this new world of college sports...
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You don't need to be so bold! I'd be willing to wager that any team from the ACC or Big East and most of the B12 would join the B1G or SEC if invited. One of the things that make poaching the Big East so popular is the "low" exit fee cost for easier (and almost immediate) addition to the scheduling. That might be enough to tip the scales in UConn's favor if it's a close call between us and somebody else from the ACC.
 
Yes on B1G, not necessarily the SEC. The SEC is a crappy conference, yes there are 3-5 good fball teams every year, 2 hoops and the women are gorgeous, but the academics are a huge liability. Schools like OSU, Mich, ND, Texas, USC, PSU, Illinois wouldn't in a million years join the SEC because of a handful of football Saturdays every year.

Dooley said:
You don't need to be so bold! I'd be willing to wager that any team from the ACC or Big East and most of the B12 would join the B1G or SEC if invited. One of the things that make poaching the Big East so popular is the "low" exit fee cost for easier (and almost immediate) addition to the scheduling. That might be enough to tip the scales in UConn's favor if it's a close call between us and somebody else from the ACC.
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husky91 said:
Yes on B1G, not necessarily the SEC. The SEC is a crappy conference, yes there are 3-5 good fball teams every year, 2 hoops and the women are gorgeous, but the academics are a huge liability. Schools like OSU, Mich, ND, Texas, USC, PSU, Illinois wouldn't in a million years join the SEC because of a handful of football Saturdays every year.
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Please everyone get a grip on the relative importance of the academics. If it was all about the academics, then the ACC would have more power now than the Big12. They don't. Money is and has always been the primary driver of this whole thing.

Also, the bottom 4 or 5 teams of the SEC might be mediocre, but it is difficult to say a conference only has 3-5 good teams when prior to today, they had the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th ranked teams in the country. Today, a couple rose a little and a couple fell a little, but they added a 7th team to the rankings (Miss St.). Umm.....they're really good....

EDIT: Sorry, it was 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9: http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/week/12
 
mavblues said:
I live in Miami. I have heard no mention at all on WQAM.
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I think I was duped. I did not hear it myself. I was out last night and was told they said this on WQAM. I totally believed it. Pretty sure guy was bs'ing me now because I have been trying to verify with no luck. Shouldn't have mentioned it here. Lesson learned.
 
mavblues said:
I live in Miami. I have heard no mention at all on WQAM.
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I think I was duped. I did not hear it myself. I was out last night and was told they said this on WQAM. I totally believed it. Pretty sure guy was bs'ing me now because I have been trying to verify with no luck. Shouldn't have mentioned it here. Lesson learned.
 
Hahaha. Only started a ten-page thread. You should just say you were posting under the influence like HFD (and me during games sometimes)...
 
junglehusky said:
Hahaha. Only started a ten-page thread. You should just say you were posting under the influence like HFD (and me during games sometimes)...
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It sucks eating crow but I can't find any evidence. Then again, if its true ill have to gloat.
 
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Hoophound said:
It sucks eating crow but I can't find any evidence. Then again, if its true ill have to gloat.
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I couldn't find any evidence either last night. Thought you heard it yourself.
 
well, this has been a wonderful use of time. the internet kind of sucks sometimes.
 
Beyond comprehension that someone would imply that he heard it when he in fact didn't. Had you simply posted that a friend told you he heard it, we could have made a rational decision whether to play on this thread or not.
 
Hoophound said:
I think I was duped. I did not hear it myself. I was out last night and was told they said this on WQAM. I totally believed it. Pretty sure guy was bs'ing me now because I have been trying to verify with no luck. Shouldn't have mentioned it here. Lesson learned.
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Bro....... bro?
 
junglehusky said:
While I think it's perfectly feasible that UConn could/should be talking to the B1G through back-channels right now, i have a hard time believing we'd be as realistic of a shot as MD or RU until our stadium is filled and plans were going forward to expand to the size of their stadiua (at least 50k). They miiiight give us a little leeway because of basketball but I don't think it would be much.

Now as to whether to stay in the NNBE while waiting on the B1G, this should be done ONLY if Herbst can get some assurances that Uconn will definitely be invited in ~5 years if we do X, Y and Z in terms of the stadium or whatever.
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Which assurances can't and wont be given. If the ACC invites, accept. To reject would be delusional.
 
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Hoophound said:
I think I was duped. I did not hear it myself. I was out last night and was told they said this on WQAM. I totally believed it. Pretty sure guy was bs'ing me now because I have been trying to verify with no luck. Shouldn't have mentioned it here. Lesson learned.
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Well at least now we can hopefully dispense with the "lets reject the ACC if they offer, because the B1G might want us in 5 years" delusion.
 
Just to be clear, when I said "hold out", I meant hold out for NOW. Like this month or next few months.
 
This was a unique situation. A guy who I have talked sports with on a few occasions brought it up on a chance meeting last night. He said he had just heard it in the car on the way out. He was completely casual and convincing. I asked where he heard it and he told me. I am still not thoroughly convinced he didn't hear it, I just can't verify it. Nonetheless, it really makes no difference if I heard it or not. If I had heard it, I would still be a guy on the Internet telling you something that I may or not have heard and even if I did hear it, it wasn't likely to be true anyway.

I suspect he heard a discussion about UConn moving to the ACC if MD left for the B10 and didn't get the story right.
 
Hoophound said:
This was a unique situation. A guy who I have talked sports with on a few occasions brought it up on a chance meeting last night. He said he had just heard it in the car on the way out. He was completely casual and convincing. I asked where he heard it and he told me. I am still not thoroughly convinced he didn't hear it, I just can't verify it. Nonetheless, it really makes no difference if I heard it or not. If I had heard it, I would still be a guy on the Internet telling you something that I may or not have heard and even if I did hear it, it wasn't likely to be true anyway.

I suspect he heard a discussion about UConn moving to the ACC if MD left for the B10 and didn't get the story right.
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Ummm, then why didn't you post something like this when you started this thread?
 
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