Miami Nerd Preview Player Deep Dive | The Boneyard

Miami Nerd Preview Player Deep Dive

Joined
Sep 6, 2011
Messages
12,478
Reaction Score
66,461
Starters
VR0wzl3.png

Isaiah Wong
, 4th year, 6'4" 184 lbs, Combo guard - ACC Player of the Year. Slithery guard with a pretty big bag. A majority of his shots come off the dribble. Has the highest assist rate on the team, but it's not especially high (much less than both Jackson and Newton's). On the other hand, his turnover rate is impressively low for a playmaking guard. Draws a lot of fouls. 38% 3pt shooter. More mid-range heavy than most players these days, where he shoots an okay percent. Not elite at the rim. Gets a decent number of steals. Rates out as 2nd best defender by RAPM, but lower by BPR.
*Impact comparable to - Ryan Nembhard.

Nijel Pack, 3rd year, 6'0" 184 lbs, Combo guard, 2 years at Kansas St - Last year was first team All-Big 12. Earlier in his career was a PG, but now only adds complementary playmaking. More of a 6'0" shooting guard at Miami. Does not add much on the boards. Elite shooter over his career (42% from 3 on 570 attempts, >40% for 3 straight years). Big gravity. Does not get to the line at all. Just okay in the midrange and at at the rim. Does not add much defensively and struggles to contain penetration.
*Impact comparable to - Adam Kunkel.

Wooga Poplar, 2nd year, 6'5" 185 lbs, Wing guard -Clear 5th best player by all metrics. One of 2 sophs (no freshmen) in rotation. Long, above-the-rim athlete. Gets some steals, but defensive tools don't translate to strong advanced defensive metrics. 39% from 3 on modest number of attempts (steamy 45% in conference play), never takes 3 off a dribble. Decent passer and takes decent care of the ball. Very seldom draws fouls. Shooting numbers are pretty good from all 3 levels.
*Impact comparable to - Bouncy, thinner David Joplin.

Jordan Miller, 5th year, 6'7" 195 lbs, Wing guard, 3 years at George Mason - Top offensive player on the team by BPR, RAPM, and PRPG!. Extremely efficient. Lefty. Improved shooter who shot 36% for the season and 38% in conference play, but 2nd least aggressive 3pt shooter among starters. Aggressive straight line slasher who gets to the rim at a high rate and is a great finisher at the rim when he gets there. But is more often setup than shooting off the dribble. Good vision and extremely turnover resistant. Solid and reliable defender. Okay offensive rebounder, but subpar defensively.
*Impact comparable to - Taller Kam Jones.

Norchad Omier, 3rd year, 6'7" 248 lbs, Big, 2 years at Arkansas St. - Top overall player on Miami by BPR (#24 overall) and RAPM (#53), partially due to being the only real complete player on the roster. 5th best rebounder in the country by total reb%, great on both backboards. 17 rebounds against Indiana. Vey good finishing at the rim and the vast majority of his shots come from there. Struggles from any further out. Draws fouls at a high rate and is an above average FT shooter. Not a zero as a passer, but certainly more of a finisher. 4.2 fouls per 40 or about 3 fouls per game in his usual 28 minutes.
*Impact comparable to - Shorter, no outside shot, better rebounding Jack Nunge.

Their starting lineup is the 2nd best 5-man lineup in the country with at least 500 possessions according to BPR. It's comparable to Marquette, Creighton, or Xavier's starting lineup by RAPM. It's balanced and efficient. They don't give up too many runs and score a good amount themselves.

The Bench
UVAHeGq.png

Bensley Joseph
- 2nd year, 6'2" 207 lbs, Combo guard - PSA grad. Decently athletic with good steal and block rates (for his size). Good 3-point shooter and decent volume shooter. Has some playmaking ability, but very turnover prone. *Impact comparable to - Eric Hunter.

Harlond Beverly - 4th year, 6'6" 200 lbs, Combo guard - Only positive bench player by RAPM. Adds a bit of playmaking. A bit of foul drawing. Really turnover prone. Very bad midrange shooter, but is mostly a catch and shoot 3pt or rim player. Forces some turnovers. *Impact comparable to - Desmond Claude.

Anthony Walker - 4th year, 6'9" 215 lbs, Wing forward - Backup big. 11th in RAPM on team. Team has been outscored over the season with him on the court. Straight up negative on offense, can't shoot at all. Can finish at the rim, but requires setup. Very poor foul drawer for a big. Not a good shotblocker for his size. *Impact comparable to - Akok Akok (in games other than against UConn when he was good).

Their 7 best lineups all have Omier in them. The drop-off from Omier to Walker is massive. Joseph and Beverly aren't amazing bench players and our top 4 bench players (Clingan, Diarra, Calcaterra, and Alleyne) all rate out as stronger than their best, but they're serviceable compared to Walker. But that being said, the lineups with Walker + Omier are still better than the X+Miller lineups, showing Omier's value even further.

*Impact measured by RAPM and BPR. Player style or specific stats not taken into account, only overall impact to the team. Did try to matchup similar role players just for ease of comparison.
Short charts courtesy CBBAnalytics. RAPM from Hoop-Explorer. BPR from EvanMiya.com
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
16,223
Reaction Score
35,614
Is it fair to say that a tightly-called game (assuming even both ways and no Jeff Anderson shenanigans) favors us because of our depth and their reliance on their starters, especially Omier?
 
Joined
Aug 30, 2011
Messages
9,064
Reaction Score
35,792
Is it fair to say that a tightly-called game (assuming even both ways and no Jeff Anderson shenanigans) favors us because of our depth and their reliance on their starters, especially Omier?
I'd think we want a more loosely called game. Their offense is more dependent on drawing fouls and getting to the line. If we're able to play reasonably physical defense and they're not shooting 25-30 FTs, I think that has to heavily favor us. Now any foul trouble for Omier HEAVILY favors us.
 
Joined
Nov 20, 2018
Messages
3,440
Reaction Score
11,127
Is it fair to say that a tightly-called game (assuming even both ways and no Jeff Anderson shenanigans) favors us because of our depth and their reliance on their starters, especially Omier?
on the surface that seems correct, but I really don't know. God, I hope Jeff Anderson only works the FAU-SDSU game. I don't want him working any UConn games at all, I mean ever. He is unprofessional and way too biased.
 

August_West

Universal remote, put it down on docking station.
Joined
Aug 29, 2011
Messages
51,348
Reaction Score
89,309
I'd think we want a more loosely called game. Their offense is more dependent on drawing fouls and getting to the line. If we're able to play reasonably physical defense and they're not shooting 25-30 FTs, I think that has to heavily favor us. Now any foul trouble for Omier HEAVILY favors us.
Good points. Depends if they are prone to calling touches on perimeter or banging down low.
 

HuskyHawk

The triumphant return of the Blues Brothers.
Joined
Sep 12, 2011
Messages
32,076
Reaction Score
82,546
I am really trying to figure out how they guard our bigs. I don’t see Omier handling Sanogo or Clingan alone. In another thread someone said Miller on Sanogo, who would get eaten alive and Omier would have to guard Karaban, who would drag their primary rebounder outside. They can’t do that. That would be a disaster.

They have good guards, I get that. But no depth while we can run 5-6 guys at them on defense. If we are running off the ball like we have been, our guys will get clean looks and their guys will eventually be gassed.

I think rebounding is going to be huge here. I know Omier and Miller are good on the boards, but it still seems to strongly favor UConn given how well Sanogo, Clingan, Jackson, Karaban and even Newton rebound.
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2023
Messages
236
Reaction Score
615
Starters
VR0wzl3.png

Isaiah Wong
, 4th year, 6'4" 184 lbs, Combo guard - ACC Player of the Year. Slithery guard with a pretty big bag. A majority of his shots come off the dribble. Has the highest assist rate on the team, but it's not especially high (much less than both Jackson and Newton's). On the other hand, his turnover rate is impressively low for a playmaking guard. Draws a lot of fouls. 38% 3pt shooter. More mid-range heavy than most players these days, where he shoots an okay percent. Not elite at the rim. Gets a decent number of steals. Rates out as 2nd best defender by RAPM, but lower by BPR.
*Impact comparable to - Ryan Nembhard.

Nijel Pack, 3rd year, 6'0" 184 lbs, Combo guard, 2 years at Kansas St - Last year was first team All-Big 12. Earlier in his career was a PG, but now only adds complementary playmaking. More of a 6'0" shooting guard at Miami. Does not add much on the boards. Elite shooter over his career (42% from 3 on 570 attempts, >40% for 3 straight years). Big gravity. Does not get to the line at all. Just okay in the midrange and at at the rim. Does not add much defensively and struggles to contain penetration.
*Impact comparable to - Adam Kunkel.

Wooga Poplar, 2nd year, 6'5" 185 lbs, Wing guard -Clear 5th best player by all metrics. One of 2 sophs (no freshmen) in rotation. Long, above-the-rim athlete. Gets some steals, but defensive tools don't translate to strong advanced defensive metrics. 39% from 3 on modest number of attempts (steamy 45% in conference play), never takes 3 off a dribble. Decent passer and takes decent care of the ball. Very seldom draws fouls. Shooting numbers are pretty good from all 3 levels.
*Impact comparable to - Bouncy, thinner David Joplin.

Jordan Miller, 5th year, 6'7" 195 lbs, Wing guard, 3 years at George Mason - Top offensive player on the team by BPR, RAPM, and PRPG!. Extremely efficient. Lefty. Improved shooter who shot 36% for the season and 38% in conference play, but 2nd least aggressive 3pt shooter among starters. Aggressive straight line slasher who gets to the rim at a high rate and is a great finisher at the rim when he gets there. But is more often setup than shooting off the dribble. Good vision and extremely turnover resistant. Solid and reliable defender. Okay offensive rebounder, but subpar defensively.
*Impact comparable to - Taller Kam Jones.

Norchad Omier, 3rd year, 6'7" 248 lbs, Big, 2 years at Arkansas St. - Top overall player on Miami by BPR (#24 overall) and RAPM (#53), partially due to being the only real complete player on the roster. 5th best rebounder in the country by total reb%, great on both backboards. 17 rebounds against Indiana. Vey good finishing at the rim and the vast majority of his shots come from there. Struggles from any further out. Draws fouls at a high rate and is an above average FT shooter. Not a zero as a passer, but certainly more of a finisher. 4.2 fouls per 40 or about 3 fouls per game in his usual 28 minutes.
*Impact comparable to - Shorter, no outside shot, better rebounding Jack Nunge.

Their starting lineup is the 2nd best 5-man lineup in the country with at least 500 possessions according to BPR. It's comparable to Marquette, Creighton, or Xavier's starting lineup by RAPM. It's balanced and efficient. They don't give up too many runs and score a good amount themselves.

The Bench
UVAHeGq.png

Bensley Joseph
- 2nd year, 6'2" 207 lbs, Combo guard - PSA grad. Decently athletic with good steal and block rates (for his size). Good 3-point shooter and decent volume shooter. Has some playmaking ability, but very turnover prone. *Impact comparable to - Eric Hunter.

Harlond Beverly - 4th year, 6'6" 200 lbs, Combo guard - Only positive bench player by RAPM. Adds a bit of playmaking. A bit of foul drawing. Really turnover prone. Very bad midrange shooter, but is mostly a catch and shoot 3pt or rim player. Forces some turnovers. *Impact comparable to - Desmond Claude.

Anthony Walker - 4th year, 6'9" 215 lbs, Wing forward - Backup big. 11th in RAPM on team. Team has been outscored over the season with him on the court. Straight up negative on offense, can't shoot at all. Can finish at the rim, but requires setup. Very poor foul drawer for a big. Not a good shotblocker for his size. *Impact comparable to - Akok Akok (in games other than against UConn when he was good).

Their 7 best lineups all have Omier in them. The drop-off from Omier to Walker is massive. Joseph and Beverly aren't amazing bench players and our top 4 bench players (Clingan, Diarra, Calcaterra, and Alleyne) all rate out as stronger than their best, but they're serviceable compared to Walker. But that being said, the lineups with Walker + Omier are still better than the X+Miller lineups, showing Omier's value even further.

*Impact measured by RAPM and BPR. Player style or specific stats not taken into account, only overall impact to the team. Did try to matchup similar role players just for ease of comparison.
Short charts courtesy CBBAnalytics. RAPM from Hoop-Explorer. BPR from EvanMiya.com
What about this for an analysis: if we play the same way we did last weekend, we will win by 20. The way we played, we would be most national teams and some NBA teams on a given night. I want to see Miami's big at 6'7" dominate the game over Sanogo/Clingan/Karaban. If he does, God bless him. I just dont see it. And their guards? Not one of them can shoot like Hawkins. He literally runs like 'Hays' and hits like hits like 'Mays'. Stop it. Just stop it. This is over.
 

OkaForPrez

Really Popular Poster
Joined
Aug 28, 2011
Messages
5,204
Reaction Score
26,697
What about this for an analysis: if we play the same way we did last weekend, we will win by 20. The way we played, we would be most national teams and some NBA teams on a given night. I want to see Miami's big at 6'7" dominate the game over Sanogo/Clingan/Karaban. If he does, God bless him. I just dont see it. And their guards? Not one of them can shoot like Hawkins. He literally runs like 'Hays' and hits like hits like 'Mays'. Stop it. Just stop it. This is over.
Mf Doom GIF by Flossquiat
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
812
Reaction Score
3,242
What about this for an analysis: if we play the same way we did last weekend, we will win by 20. The way we played, we would be most national teams and some NBA teams on a given night. I want to see Miami's big at 6'7" dominate the game over Sanogo/Clingan/Karaban. If he does, God bless him. I just dont see it. And their guards? Not one of them can shoot like Hawkins. He literally runs like 'Hays' and hits like hits like 'Mays'. Stop it. Just stop it. This is over.
Come On No GIF by Milwaukee Bucks
 
Joined
Sep 6, 2011
Messages
12,478
Reaction Score
66,461
Is it fair to say that a tightly-called game (assuming even both ways and no Jeff Anderson shenanigans) favors us because of our depth and their reliance on their starters, especially Omier?
Probably the opposite. They're like Creighton, they hardly ever foul. So even if refs are calling it tight, there aren't fouls to call on them whereas there are a ton to call on us. If we got 2 on Omier it might be worth it, but I don't know. I don't like gifting them efficient points. We know we can't help ourselves. A loosely called game negates our foul proclivities and lets us be more aggressive defensively on our contests on their drives and on the boards.
 
Joined
Jan 19, 2019
Messages
890
Reaction Score
9,887
What about this for an analysis: if we play the same way we did last weekend, we will win by 20. The way we played, we would be most national teams and some NBA teams on a given night. I want to see Miami's big at 6'7" dominate the game over Sanogo/Clingan/Karaban. If he does, God bless him. I just dont see it. And their guards? Not one of them can shoot like Hawkins. He literally runs like 'Hays' and hits like hits like 'Mays'. Stop it. Just stop it. This is over.
C09A63FF-6B06-4311-AAE1-187A94A601A4.gif
 
Joined
Jan 14, 2016
Messages
3,697
Reaction Score
8,214
I'd think we want a more loosely called game. Their offense is more dependent on drawing fouls and getting to the line. If we're able to play reasonably physical defense and they're not shooting 25-30 FTs, I think that has to heavily favor us. Now any foul trouble for Omier HEAVILY favors us.
Which means. Dump it to our biggest dog. And let him eat. I think they are too confident to double even adama. Once that starts they will be all over
 
Joined
Oct 26, 2018
Messages
6,227
Reaction Score
21,294
Larranega played Omier for almost the entire second half with 4 fouls. he correctly realized he had to ride Omier as long as possible, and it worked. he never fouled out and helped them close out the game. not possible if he was on the bench.

so getting omier into "foul trouble" has to mean getting him to actually foul out, otherwise he's going to be on the floor.
 
Joined
Aug 30, 2011
Messages
9,064
Reaction Score
35,792
Which means. Dump it to our biggest dog. And let him eat. I think they are too confident to double even adama. Once that starts they will be all over
Laranaga is a good coach, so I’m sure he’s got some looks planned to bring help. The Drake post guy went 9/14 for 20 points (averages 9 PPG) and took whatever he wanted in the paint, so my guess is Laranaga realizes Omier is probably going to struggle to stop or slow down Sanogo.

That being said, if Sanogo passes as well as he did against Gonzaga, Laranaga may have to live with Omier one on one against Sanogo.
 
Joined
Sep 6, 2011
Messages
12,478
Reaction Score
66,461
Laranaga is a good coach, so I’m sure he’s got some looks planned to bring help. The Drake post guy went 9/14 for 20 points (averages 9 PPG) and took whatever he wanted in the paint, so my guess is Laranaga realizes Omier is probably going to struggle to stop or slow down Sanogo.

That being said, if Sanogo passes as well as he did against Gonzaga, Laranaga may have to live with Omier one on one against Sanogo.
They do have 3 extra days to prep. Gonzaga was atrocious on rotations when they doubled.
 

Online statistics

Members online
400
Guests online
2,943
Total visitors
3,343

Forum statistics

Threads
157,194
Messages
4,087,745
Members
9,983
Latest member
dogsdogsdog


Top Bottom