Maryland to Big10 Getting Some Legs

[gars44]

UConn doesn't protect the ACC from anything. It's not like VPI and FSU stay because UConn joined and it's not like UConn wouldn't join if they left.

Whaler, I love you man, I love your energy. To even try to explain this to anyone that doesn't get this, I love your energy. I mean it.

 

[whaler11]

Whaler, I love you man, I love your energy. To even try to explain this to anyone that doesn't get this, I love your energy. I mean it.

Thanks? I guess I may have somewhat missed his point but still I still don't see any potential situation where the Big 10 checkmates the ACC using UConn as a pawn. The Big 10 is not worried about the ACC... they are better off if the ACC survives and the SEC doesn't further consolidate their power.

 

[BlueMAB]

True, the difference here being that Maddow already has the show and the money and would have to allow Limbaugh to come share.

You're kidding right?

 

[upstater]

Thanks? I guess I may have somewhat missed his point but still I still don't see any potential situation where the Big 10 checkmates the ACC using UConn as a pawn. The Big 10 is not worried about the ACC... they are better off if the ACC survives and the SEC doesn't further consolidate their power.

I never said the Big10 would use UConn as a pawn. The only way the Big10 takes UConn is if they want them. And as I said in my original post, that's unlikely. But if it happens, the ACC is up 'screek. That's precisely why the ACC invites them.

 

[whaler11]

You're kidding right?

Not really. The liberal schools have a huge television contract and don't really need the conservative school. The Pac-12 already has Utah and based on BYU's contract they aren't worth nearly what the average Pac-12 school is getting paid. Why would Berkeley and Stanford let BYU into their sandbox?

 

[whaler11]

I never said the Big10 would use UConn as a pawn. The only way the Big10 takes UConn is if they want them. And as I said in my original post, that's unlikely. But if it happens, the ACC is up ****'screek. That's precisely why the ACC invites them.

So you think the ACC will invite UConn because if the Big 10 gets UConn the ACC is screwed? I'm pretty sure based on the fact the ACC has ignored UConn to this point they aren't worried. I'm also pretty sure that the Big 10 has zero interest in UConn, so the sentiment seems pointless.

 

[BlueMAB]

Not really. The liberal schools have a huge television contract and don't really need the conservative school. The Pac-12 already has Utah and based on BYU's contract they aren't worth nearly what the average Pac-12 school is getting paid. Why would Berkeley and Stanford let BYU into their sandbox?

I meant kidding about Maddow and Limbaugh. Rush has a much larger audience and is worth a shyteload more money.

I agree about BYU, but your analogy is backwards

 

[whaler11]

I meant kidding about Maddow and Limbaugh. Rush has a much larger audience and is worth a shyteload more money.

I agree about BYU, but your analogy is backwards

Im just calling Cal Maddow and BYU Rush based on their political views. Yes, in the media in this case Rush has the bigger dollars.

 

[HuskyHawk]

There is a 0% chance Louisville gets an ACC invite - it's Big 12 or bust for them, just like it's ACC or bust for UConn.

This is from Wetzel's recent column (I hate the , but he's pretty connected):


Either the ACC stays at 14 for basketball and 13 for football for the time being, or they invite UConn to even out the number of football schools (in which case, they might invite a bball only like Georgetown as well).

It is absolutely obvious. We will have an ACC invite in 5 minutes or less from the announcement. First there are no other viable ACC programs. Second, the core ACC schools wanted us all along to help reclaim their basketball dominance. Third, UConn becomes more critical territorially with RU in the B1G. Cuse, plus UConn plus ND makes the ACC tops in NY. RU, plus PSU plus UConn tips the balance to the B1G.

Once the Big East collapses, GTown might get an invite as well, due to DC market lost from UMD. If this happens the western schools won't joint. It will dissolve.

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[upstater]

Not really. The liberal schools have a huge television contract and don't really need the conservative school. The Pac-12 already has Utah and based on BYU's contract they aren't worth nearly what the average Pac-12 school is getting paid. Why would Berkeley and Stanford let BYU into their sandbox?

So you think the ACC will invite UConn because if the Big 10 gets UConn the ACC is screwed? I'm pretty sure based on the fact the ACC has ignored UConn to this point they aren't worried. I'm also pretty sure that the Big 10 has zero interest in UConn, so the sentiment seems pointless.

The ACC wasn't worried until Maryland left. Now it's worried. It should be.

 

[junglehusky]

Georgia tech was mentioned earlier in this thread (I've mentioned it too). Blaudschun seems to have sources that indicate the Big Ten looked at GT before but went for RU instead.

After adding Nebraska as a 12th member a few years ago, The Big Ten, in a long range plan, had pinpointed Maryland and Georgia Tech as possible future targets.

But the conference backed off of Tech because Atlanta was too firmly entrenched in SEC, and to a much lesser extent, ACC territory.

Maryland was ripe and so was New York, where Rutgers and Connecticut were flirting with any conference that expressed an interest.

During the past several months, Delany and the Big Ten sped up the process. They had meetings, they did studies and they checked with both Maryland and Rutgers. Both were interested.

 

[whaler11]

The ACC wasn't worried until Maryland left. Now it's worried. It should be.

Can you say what they should be worried about? Just for the sake of clarity.

 

[upstater]

Can you say what they should be worried about? Just for the sake of clarity.

Multiple teams leaving, thus leaving them with less than 12 and no viable candidates for expansion.

 

[whaler11]

Multiple teams leaving, thus leaving them with less than 12 and no viable candidates for expansion.

So a relative impossibility. If the ACC disappears into the ether it won't be because they didn't offer UConn fast enough. You can let go of that revenge fantasy.

 

[The Funster]

MD leaving may not be a slam dunk per McMurphy, et al:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...nd-terrapins-regents-vote-big-ten-move-monday

Be funny if MD votes no and UConn gets an invite with Rutgers.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

MD leaving may not be a slam dunk per McMurphy, et al:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...nd-terrapins-regents-vote-big-ten-move-monday

Be funny if MD votes no and UConn gets an invite with Rutgers.

That would be incredible. I can't even fathom that happening, but.....it would be incredible.

 

[frankthetank]

It's literal in the sense that the whole contiguous thing is written in their written down super duper official B1G bylaws. In that sense, it definitely isn't figurative.

Big Ten guy here. It is a complete myth that there's any type of contiguous state requirement for the Big Ten, whether literal or even conceptual. Jim Delany himself even denied the existence of this rule 3 years ago when the Big Ten did its initial expansion search.

Plus, there's an obvious way to look at it: if Texas wanted to join the Big Ten, the conference wouldn't care one bit about them not being contiguous. The rule doesn't exist.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Big Ten guy here. It is a complete myth that there's any type of contiguous state requirement for the Big Ten, whether literal or even conceptual. Jim Delany himself even denied the existence of this rule 3 years ago when the Big Ten did its initial expansion search.

Plus, there's an obvious way to look at it: if Texas wanted to join the Big Ten, the conference wouldn't care one bit about them not being contiguous. The rule doesn't exist.

Keep selling GTech to the Big 10. Let me know how it goes.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

MD leaving may not be a slam dunk per McMurphy, et al:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...nd-terrapins-regents-vote-big-ten-move-monday

Be funny if MD votes no and UConn gets an invite with Rutgers.

It's over. The Maryland and Rutgers votes are formalities. Both are gone.

Now the question is, what happens to UConn?

 

[frankthetank]

Keep selling GTech to the Big 10. Let me know how it goes.

Not selling that at all. It's going to be Maryland and Rutgers. I just see that particular "contiguous state" rule brought up quite a bit and it simply isn't true.

 

[noeynox]

The vote at ru is prolly something like this " holy , is this real, were going to the best paying conference in all sports.". Then someone says, "you know smu and San Diego State are joining the big east," then the whole room erupts into hysterical laughter.

 

[RMoore1999]

Keep selling GTech to the Big 10. Let me know how it goes.

Why do think B1G wouldn't be interested GaTech?

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Why do think B1G wouldn't be interested GaTech?

too far away, southern school, not an alumni base for the b1g, heart of sec country, not a place the b1g can realistically make inroads, and they're not all that strong in either FB or BB to overcome those problems.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Why do think B1G wouldn't be interested GaTech?

We will find out tomorrow.

 

[ZooCougar]

Frank,

Thanks for the info. It seems that the contiguous thing is a part of the expansion strategy, but the Big 10 is only interested in deviating from it, if it is for a big fish like Texas.

Big Ten guy here. It is a complete myth that there's any type of contiguous state requirement for the Big Ten, whether literal or even conceptual. Jim Delany himself even denied the existence of this rule 3 years ago when the Big Ten did its initial expansion search.

Plus, there's an obvious way to look at it: if Texas wanted to join the Big Ten, the conference wouldn't care one bit about them not being contiguous. The rule doesn't exist.