Marinatto Q&a Video After Meeting Yesterday

[tzznandrew]

Will see how Pitt and Syracuse feel about their big move in 10 years.

On some level, the fans themselves may regret it. Nostalgia and all. But ultimately they'll be glad to be in a safe conference. In basketball, Syracuse particularly, will remain strong. I'd expect them to do better in football then we expect as well. If they end up doing a North-South split in the ACC, those teams could be back in competition sooner than you'd think.

 

[FriarJ]

this is an argument bl and I have all the time. A conference commissioner, or any CEO, or top administrator can just follow the dictates of his board, or he can lead his board. Oh maybe not in the official flow chart, but in reality. his job is to develop the plan, find the guys who will support it, then work with them to sell it to the rest. I've seen both types. Marinatto is definitely the follower type. And in certain situations that's fine. You won't ever be remembered as a great commissioner (or CEO or City Manager or Executive director or whatever). But in certain situations it can work fine. Unfortunately it isn't fine in the Big East where some leadership and creativity were demanded.

He's not a salesperson I agree. But when you have deceitful employers your job sucks, trust me.

 

[Druken Friar]

On some level, the fans themselves may regret it. Nostalgia and all. But ultimately they'll be glad to be in a safe conference. In basketball, Syracuse particularly, will remain strong. I'd expect them to do better in football then we expect as well. If they end up doing a North-South split in the ACC, those teams could be back in competition sooner than you'd think.

In my experience, when a big name coach leaves or retires, the program struggles for a time. It happened at UCLA, Indiana, Kentucky, UNC, St. Johns, Georgetown, the list goes on. Jim Boeheim is around 66.

When that happens, I will be surprised if they don't go through a few coaches before they find the right guy again.

 

[Husky68]

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I was listening to expect to hear what you described, but did not. I like he works for both FB and BB onlys and is going about his job as straighforward as he is. My impression of him after this is much higher than I had previously. I want to be in a league where teams want to be in it and if are looking at something else will tell you so. I assume Uconn was not negotiating with ACC or Big 12 prior to Pitt/Syracuse. Do expect that BE would contact Boise or UCF or anyone noting to them that all procedures for their current conference will be followed.

I didn't like the ACC raids in 2003 or 2011 nor how Dick Rod or Edsall handled departures. I'll live with how BE handled this and see if Uconn can do its part to make the newnewnewnew BE work. If Pitt and Syracuse vote to not accept the ESPN contract offered due to it not being good or complicating their eminent departure, that's on them.

If asked, I expect Uconn to tell other BE members what it is thinking re conference alignment. Syracuse made no bones about wanting in for ACC in 2003 and not surprised they still do, Pitt looked down its nose at other non "fabled" FB programs and "academics" of small state schools.

I guess I hope BE gets reconfigured with teams it has noted, some FB schools up their BB programs given access to MSG year end tournament and the Houston, SMU, UCF and military academies markets have a big impact on $$$$$$'s.

I see no great shakes losing Pitt and Syracuse for FB. I see great additions of playing two Texas teams and now two Florida teams in football. Can't get better than playing military academies, been good enough for ND.

Guess I'm still a ND out guy.

 

[RS9999X]

this is an argument bl and I have all the time. A conference commissioner, or any CEO, or top administrator can just follow the dictates of his board, or he can lead his board. Oh maybe not in the official flow chart, but in reality. his job is to develop the plan, find the guys who will support it, then work with them to sell it to the rest. I've seen both types. Marinatto is definitely the follower type. And in certain situations that's fine. You won't ever be remembered as a great commissioner (or CEO or City Manager or Executive director or whatever). But in certain situations it can work fine. Unfortunately it isn't fine in the Big East where some leadership and creativity were demanded.

Beebe had the same problem in the B12. Too many factions to represent any successfully. Sometimes an implosion is inevitable

 

[freescooter]

RS999X, H68 and Friar J,

I agree with the stuff you say about the slimewads at Pitt and Syracuse and West Virginia, but it is possible that someone can be an incompetent fool, and be faced with an impossible, or nearly impossible situation. he can even be a decent guy...I suspect all those things are the case with Marrinatto. It would have been difficult to keep the various factions in line in the Big East. A great commissioner would have had a chance. Marrinatto had none.

 

[FriarJ]

Hard to argue with that. Tranghese is generally recognized as one of the greatest commissioners and he could not do it and has been painfully truthful that he bailed because he saw this coming and could not live through it again.

I blame Marinatto for taking the damn job when he knew it would end up this way.

 

[Mr.Phat]

Not sure if this was posted. Despite what you may think of him he seems to have integrity. He also explains that most feel that this is easy as picking up a team in Fantasy Football and it's not.

http://www.examiner.com/college-football-in-national/john-marinatto-q-a-november-1-2011-video

Dumb and honorable. He should be a high school guidance counselor, not the head of a BCS conference.

 

[gars44]

lrock. u cant blame JM. Every fb school was good to go. Swofford didn't have to twist arms. Dr. Gross approached Swofford. You're just po' ed. JM had no power to affect outcomes.

You’re an idiot and I have

serious questions about your reading comprehension. Don’t pretend to be informed about things you know nothing about. What are you a Providence fan? What in my post suggested I think he should have invited Texas and USC? What I did say however was that his integrity put the conference in hot water. His integrity prevented him from seeing blood in the water. It prevented him from understanding that a man with much lower integrity like Swafford would screw him over in 2003 and still have the balls to come back and do it again in 2011. His integrity leads him to believe that he needed to serve all parties and pitch Villanova to the football schools. His integrity kept him from raiding conferences like the MWC or going after Navy and Air Force sooner.

c'mon 1800 characters?

 

[RS9999X]

Dumb and honorable. He should be a high school guidance counselor, not the head of a BCS conference.

You might want to consider what Marrionette is doing to the MWC, WAC and C-USA when you say that.

Granted our BE Commissioner is a pirranha in a world of BCS sharks but he's dining well on non-BCS minnow.

That 32-team playoff proposal or the MWC playoff with the C-USA? Dead and we know it. The C-USA, WAC and MWC have 21 teams left between them not counting 2 transtioning newbies. Teams that are not getting near the BCS in the near future.

The C-USA, WAC and MWC and their 21 teams plus transitioning Texas and Texas San Antonio? That's 2 conferences not 3. That's not the minimum 24 for 3 conferences. A 6-member MWC won't fly.

Naturally we whine about what hurts us. Meanwhile there are shudders in the lower 3 conferences. If the BE adds Nevada then the WAC/MWC are down to 12 teams. C-USA will be at 9 teams.

 

[MattMang23]

Granted our BE Commissioner is a pirranha in a world of BCS sharks but he's dining well on non-BCS minnow.

Have you seen his waistline? There's a lot more than minnow in his diet.

 

[gars44]

You might want to consider what Marrionette is doing to the MWC, WAC and C-USA when you say that.

Granted our BE Commissioner is a pirranha in a world of BCS sharks but he's dining well on non-BCS minnow.

That 32-team playoff proposal or the MWC playoff with the C-USA? Dead and we know it. The C-USA, WAC and MWC have 21 teams left between them not counting 2 transtioning newbies. Teams that are not getting near the BCS in the near future.

The C-USA, WAC and MWC and their 21 teams plus transitioning Texas and Texas San Antonio? That's 2 conferences not 3. That's not the minimum 24 for 3 conferences. A 6-member MWC won't fly.

Naturally we whine about what hurts us. Meanwhile there are shudders in the lower 3 conferences. If the BE adds Nevada then the WAC/MWC are down to 12 teams. C-USA will be at 9 teams.

this is so true. People make it sound like Swofford outmanuevered Marinatto, or whoever, in the big east, by playing a smart hand of cards, or out hustling the big east brass. In reality, Syracuse and Pitt, and most likely Uconn, and anyone else, would have jumped at the offer. There was no one for Swofford to outsmart. He has a perceived better conference that initially Miami wanted to join, and BC and Syracuse were more than willing to go along with them. VT wanted to go. After the first three left, the BE did a great job rebuilding, but its constituents were still willing to leave on the next train out with nothing more than a suitcase. You can't blame Marinatto for that. So, while Marinatto is cursed with the look of a bafoon, there was never anything he could have done to keep Syracuse and Pitt after the ACC invite. Just like there is nothing he could do to prevent Uconn or Rutgers from doing exactly the same thing.