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Duke @ UNC was entertaining going into and coming out of halftime. Flagg sat w/3 fouls in 1st. UNC recovered from a big deficit and got out to a five pt lead and looked pretty damned good.

Not anymore.

I could deal with Flagg being simply great on offense. But damn, the dude is playing some amazing D too. It's not fair.
 
This Carolina team is brutal. Will be interesting to see how it gets there when they don’t have RJ Davis anymore
 
Elliot Cadeau is a small guard that can't shoot and isn't overly athletic, how was he ranked so high
 
CashewCrew said:
I just gotta vent about the SEC. Watching OU-Texas and they are saying OU is making the tournament as of right now. They are 5-12 in conference. 5-12. You can’t be an at large team with that record.
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Killer OOC wins. Those go a long way and what cemented the inter SEC games as so valuable. Each one of the conferences had a chance to fire up their value in the fall and the SEC crushed it. Tip of the hat.
 
Gonna need a physical Big 12 team to bully Duke out of a game. They look like the front runner right now, lack of competition aside. Really hate hate hate to see it
 
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CashewCrew said:
I just gotta vent about the SEC. Watching OU-Texas and they are saying OU is making the tournament as of right now. They are 5-12 in conference. 5-12. You can’t be an at large team with that record.
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They won 3 elite OOC games and had no non conf losses. If those 3 games were instead great conference games and they were 9-9 in the best conference maybe ever (assuming they beat Texas) and had a mediocre/normal non conf, would you have a problem with them getting in?
 
What are Duke’s weaknesses right now and who in the field do you think could exploit them?
 
UCFan1513 said:
Gonna need a physical Big 12 team to bully Duke out of a game. They look like the front runner right now, lack of competition aside. Really hate hate hate to see it
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I don't know how to feel about Duke. They look great but they have one good win in months. They are 6-3 in Quad 1 with only seven of those games against tournament teams. They are 4-3 against Quad 1 tournament teams. They have only played two tournament teams in the last two months and went 1-1.

Illinois was a good win.
Clemson was a loss.

@SMU/@WF Should be out of the tournament barring some run in the ACCT

UL Good win in Dec
Auburn - Fantastic win in Dec
KU - loss in Nov
Zona - Solid win in Nov
UK - loss in Nov

Credit to them for thrashing the bad teams on their schedule though. It seems like a lot of those really good Gonzaga teams that scheduled tough OOC then basically only played SMU for months.
 
caw said:
I don't know how to feel about Duke. They look great but they have one good win in months. They are 6-3 in Quad 1 with only seven of those games against tournament teams. They are 4-3 against Quad 1 tournament teams. They have only played two tournament teams in the last two months and went 1-1.

Illinois was a good win.
Clemson was a loss.

@SMU/@WF Should be out of the tournament barring some run in the ACCT

UL Good win in Dec
Auburn - Fantastic win in Dec
KU - loss in Nov
Zona - Solid win in Nov
UK - loss in Nov

Credit to them for thrashing the bad teams on their schedule though. It seems like a lot of those really good Gonzaga teams that scheduled tough OOC then basically only played SMU for months.
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Good points. Might be wishful thinking, but you have to think that SOS matters intangibly outside of the models. Right now their Kenpom and Torvik ratings are above 2024 UConn. I know those ratings are SOS adjusted, but I think you have to look at a team like ‘21 Gonzaga who won the analytics championship but didn’t win it all. Time will tell
 
My only issue with the Sec is a lot of its wins came against the garbage Acc. Look at Louisville. They were destroyed in all there Sec games 0-4 I think. But are guess what 18-2 against the Acc or American east2 as some fans call it now. So now the Sec had multiple wins against a Louisville team with 20+ wins that beat no one out side the American east2 formerly known as the Acc. The Sec did well against the American east2.


I would want Louisville and Clemson as the higher seeded teams we would have to face in the tournament to get to the sweet 16
 
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I'll begin worrying about what it would take to beat thid year's Duke team the minute they become the next game on our schedule. While they are tremendously talented, very long and deep, their dependence on freshmen could lead to difficulty in a single elimination tournament.
 
UCFan1513 said:
What are Duke’s weaknesses right now and who in the field do you think could exploit them?
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I’d say guard play and ball handling. They don’t have a true PG. A team like StJ could give them fits. StJ has the type of size and athleticism to put stress on them, and Duke really seen a team like that all year. For frosh to see that for the first time would be interesting.
 
mike012 said:
My only issue with the Sec is a lot of its wins came against the garbage Acc. Look at Louisville. They were destroyed in all there Sec games 0-4 I think. But are guess what 18-2 against the Acc or American east2 as some fans call it now. So now the Sec had multiple wins against a Louisville team with 20+ wins that beat no one out side the American east2 formerly known as the Acc. The Sec did well against the American east2.


I would want Louisville and Clemson as the higher seeded teams we would have to face in the tournament to get to the sweet 16
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From an ESPN article back in January at the end of non-conference play:
www.espn.com

Six stats that show the SEC's men's college basketball dominance

Just how good has the SEC been this season? These numbers tell the story.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
To take it a few steps further, here are the power conferences' records against the top 25 teams at BartTorvik.com:

SEC: 15-10
ACC: 5-31
Big East: 5-18
Big Ten: 11-26
Big 12: 9-22

Expand it to the top 50:

SEC: 27-17
ACC: 13-55
Big East: 15-33
Big Ten: 21-40
Big 12: 16-36
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If you could lock up LJ Cryer on Houston, they would have a really hard time scoring. He’s shoots better from 3 than 2 so the easy answer is overplaying him. 6’1” kid but finds a way to rub off to find space. Houston continues to feel a very beatable team to me.
 
Tre Johnson with an 0/14 game in a must win(L) vs Oklahoma
 
UCFan1513 said:
Good points. Might be wishful thinking, but you have to think that SOS matters intangibly outside of the models. Right now their Kenpom and Torvik ratings are above 2024 UConn. I know those ratings are SOS adjusted, but I think you have to look at a team like ‘21 Gonzaga who won the analytics championship but didn’t win it all. Time will tell
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Not exactly the team I was thinking of. I was thinking 22 for comparison right down to the generational talent at the 3/4 in Chet vs Flagg. Top tier talent on both teams.

21 is a good call for the metrics though.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Killer OOC wins. Those go a long way and what cemented the inter SEC games as so valuable. Each one of the conferences had a chance to fire up their value in the fall and the SEC crushed it. Tip of the hat.
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That is why we need to get into the SEC, Big Ten or lesser extent Big12.
 
auror said:
From an ESPN article back in January at the end of non-conference play:
www.espn.com

Six stats that show the SEC's men's college basketball dominance

Just how good has the SEC been this season? These numbers tell the story.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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Oh look An article about the Sec from ESPN. I am surprised they don’t claim the Sec should be playing the Celtics and the Lakers for the NBA title. I would expect ESPN to discuss the good chances that a Sec team would win the NBA title.
 
SEC and Big12 have to prove it in the NCAAT. Because last 2 years they haven't. Both went into the tourney with a lot of hype
 
upstater said:
SEC and Big12 have to prove it in the NCAAT. Because last 2 years they haven't. Both went into the tourney with a lot of hype
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I have watched plenty of both leagues and the quality of play in the SEC is so far beyond the B12. The pace, athleticism and shot making are miles apart. The SEC is in its own league this year. Watching the top teams play each other looked like another sport.
 
aceboon said:
Elliot Cadeau is a small guard that can't shoot and isn't overly athletic, how was he ranked so high
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He's a very smooth PG who hasn't developed much ... I think he could be running the show for a really good team, but this UNC team is disjointed.

He tries to make the huge play too much - I like his game a ton and did in HS, but I think this UNC team with no organization on O hasn't helped him. Plus he hasn't developed his scoring as much as you'd have expected.
 
RuffRuff said:
I have watched plenty of both leagues and the quality of play in the SEC is so far beyond the B12. The pace, athleticism and shot making are miles apart. The SEC is in its own league this year. Watching the top teams play each other looked like another sport.
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I agree, I'm just saying that they get more teams than any other conference in the NCAAT the last 2 years, and they get very high seeds as well, and they have a .500 record in both of the last 2 tourneys.

They are better than the B1G but behind the ACC in output.
 
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So an all SEC final? Is that anyones prediction?? Easy to imagine, hard to bet on.
 
AllHusky said:
So an all SEC final? Is that anyones prediction?? Easy to imagine, hard to bet on.
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So hard to bet vs field. There are 6 teams that differentiate, 4 are SEC. I’d feel good saying 2 get to F4. I really like Florida. They have a big luxury like I have not seen. Michigan has them but they are slow and oafs comparatively.
 
Was hoping MSU/Michigan would be a great game but seems it’s pretty much over after 15 minutes

MSU has been EVERYWHERE on defense and are raining threes
 
REB1094 said:
Was hoping MSU/Michigan would be a great game but seems it’s pretty much over after 15 minutes

MSU has been EVERYWHERE on defense and are raining threes
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Michigan’s Guard play ain’t good.
 
High Point at 29-5 and Omaha at 21-12 are the first two teams to get auto bids. Two more bids up for grabs including Bradley vs Drake which may very well be the best low major game of the year and better than some high major pillow fights like bc vs cuse or rutgers vs washington. Huge pity one of them might have to stay home, give me Bradley or drake over Arkansas or smu any day of the week.
 
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