March General CBB Discussion Thread

[aceboon]

It seems like Acuff's shooting didn't get talked about enough as a prospect coming into college

 

[HooperScooper]

TJ Power found the right level/fit

Just as I predicted. I'll tell the story when our season is over about UConn's recruitment of Power and Karaban. It's kind of interesting but I didn't want to post it until Karban's college career is over.

 

[HooperScooper]

It seems like Acuff's shooting didn't get talked about enough as a prospect coming into college

Kid is an absolute stud. I wonder how many SEC POYs were freshmen?

 

[aceboon]

Kind is an absolute stud. I wonder how many SEC POYs were freshmen?

Off memory I saw a comment going around when Acuff was announced that Anthony Davis and Brandon Miller were the others

 

[Hi-Low]

Get ready for Calipari to say "Arkansas should be a 1 seed" 😉

 

[ucp990411]

We didn’t look physically overmatched.

We looked sped up by their pressure due to our lack of ball handling. We were plenty big enough.

We did miss Stewie though.

Disagree. Solo, Mullens and Karaban were all man handled by the physicality of St John's and all 3 caved in to it.

 

[REB1094]

Wonder how the folks over at Rupp Rafters are doing. Year 2 of the breakup, Calipari has Arkansas winning the SEC trophy for the 2nd time ever while Kentucky is probably going to be in the 7/10 or 8/9 game lol

 

[RuffRuff]

Wonder how the folks over at Rupp Rafters are doing. Year 2 of the breakup, Calipari has Arkansas winning the SEC trophy for the 2nd time ever while Kentucky is probably going to be in the 7/10 or 8/9 game lol

I've poked - it's almost boring they're such lunatics. They want him out already and posturing for all the best coaches out there as though they all want the pressure of that crazy fanbase. They make Uconn fans look normal.

 

[HooperScooper]

Arkansas is a team I would not want UConn to see in the NCAA Tournament. They have high level athletic players all over the roster. Their best players are relatively young and there's the Calipari factor, but keep them far away from the Huskies.

 

[KingAG]

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Disagree. Solo, Mullens and Karaban were all man handled by the physicality of St John's and all 3 caved in to it.

We’ll disagree. Yes Mullins looked over matched playing out of position trying to guard Hopkins because of no Stewie. But other than that we looked fine physically. It was the 17 turnovers that did us in specifically in the first half. We out rebounded them and matched them in points in the paint. It was literally the turnovers an points off turnovers matched with our inability to make open shots.

In all actuality Taris was the biggest physical advantage on the floor

 

[RuffRuff]

Arkansas is a team I would not want UConn to see in the NCAA Tournament. They have high level athletic players all over the roster. Their best players are relatively young and there's the Calipari factor, but keep them far away from the Huskies.

I've had them as a sleeper all season given their talent level. They have a very good starting five, although lack size as Brazille is basically their big. Florida manhandled them. They have zero chance of beating some of these top teams because of that and because they don't defend much. It'll be about matchups for them - I do think Cal turns it up a notch once tourneys begin.

They and StJ are on that 5/4 line so they'll probably get paired up in a 1 seeds side of the bracket. We wouldn't see them until an Elite 8 in all likelihood and I'll take them over a top 4 team, so bring em.

 

[RuffRuff]

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We’ll disagree. Yes Mullins looked over matched playing out of position trying to guard Hopkins because of no Stewie. But other than that we looked fine physically. It was the 17 turnovers that did us in specifically in the first half. We out rebounded them and matched them in points in the paint. It was literally the turnovers an points off turnovers matched with our inability to make open shots.

In all actuality Taris was the biggest physical advantage on the floor

You really do watch a different game than most people.

 

[KingAG]

You really do watch a different game than most people.

I don’t. The numbers back up we weren’t physically overwhelmed. How many turnovers were just because our guys had a short circuit in their brains. We were sped up because of our lack of ball handling. We beat them on the boards and matched them in points in the paint. The only issue we had physically was no Stewie to match some of their wing size. But that isn’t at all why we lost.

And in the end Dylan Darling put us away lmfao. Such a physical specimen.

The fact of the matter is they had 24 points off of turnovers. That was the game. We played them even every where else. We were just throwing the ball away.

We have been all year. Against teams who weren’t physically impressive. It’s the ball handling and passing. IQ problems.

 

[aceboon]

Reminds me a bit of Dame, but unfortunately that also applies to the defensive end as well

 

[RuffRuff]

Reminds me a bit of Dame, but unfortunately that also applies to the defensive end as well

And here is where the concern lies

 

[Vowelguy]

Wonder how the folks over at Rupp Rafters are doing. Year 2 of the breakup, Calipari has Arkansas winning the SEC trophy for the 2nd time ever while Kentucky is probably going to be in the 7/10 or 8/9 game lol

They ran Calipari out of town and have yelled that Pope is far better than Hurley.

Hope Ark can wear their SEC champ shirts for their next trip to Rupp.

 

[connVA]

We didn’t look physically overmatched.

We looked sped up by their pressure due to our lack of ball handling. We were plenty big enough.

We did miss Stewie though.

It's possible I was watching a different game. The only player who seemed to hold his own physically was maybe Tarris and that's being pretty (very) generous.

 

[ucp990411]

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We’ll disagree. Yes Mullins looked over matched playing out of position trying to guard Hopkins because of no Stewie. But other than that we looked fine physically. It was the 17 turnovers that did us in specifically in the first half. We out rebounded them and matched them in points in the paint. It was literally the turnovers an points off turnovers matched with our inability to make open shots.

In all actuality Taris was the biggest physical advantage on the floor

We do disagree. Karaban was matched up with Hopkins for the most part. Hopkins totally outplayed him. Mullens was matched up with Mitchell mostly. Mitchell’s physicality and quickness completely took him out of the game and Solo looked scared the whole game. Our only players who were not intimidated were Silas, Ross and Reed who was outplayed by Ebijor.

 

[HooperScooper]

And here is where the concern lies

The quintessential Calipari player.

 

[KingAG]

It's possible I was watching a different game. The only player who seemed to hold his own physically was maybe Tarris and that's being pretty (very) generous.

I think they all held their own outside of the Hopkins matchup when Alex sat. We had no one to check him with no Stewie. Where are the numbers that backup something different?

Again we beat them on the glass by a good margin. Beat them on offensive boards, and matched them in points in the paint. Darling, Sellers, Sanon, and Jackson did not physically overwhelm our backcourt. Ross did more than hold his own against Mitchell. Taris and Ejifor were a wash. You’re referring to minutes where Mullins or Ross had to check Hopkins down low.

They played more aggressively than us which sped up our decision making. And we have a team who struggles to make high IQ decisions. If I had the time I’d go through every turnover and ask you to show how it had anything to do with a physical advantage.


If you’re referring to the blatant grabbing and holding that was allowed that’s a different conversation.

Regarding Taris, he was such a physical advantage we spammed him in the 2nd half and it worked lmao. It was just too late. So how is saying Taris physically held his own being “very generous”?

 

[Hurleyman216]

Michigan looks good partly because they are pretty athletic and play in a league of unathletic teams. This Purdue team is slow and not a lot of size, they make Michigan look like world beaters. Somehow it’s only a 2 point game

 

[upstater]

The one good thing about college basketball this year is how the freshman performed.

We were moving toward a portal model of men with 22 or 23 year old bodies beating up on teams with players recruited out of high school.

In college hockey, you see this all the time. When I recently looked at the college hockey rankings, I was shocked to see Augustana was one of the top teams, something that only happened because so many schools are taking players who flamed out in semi-pro leagues and they come to college as 22 year olds. I don't want the hockey model to become the basketball model. So many of the US national team guys come to college and end up moving onto the NHL before they're even ready to compete for college titles. They get stashed in the AHL for a few seasons.

 

[controlfade]

Vandy had a ton of points off turnovers.

Very - they just play no defense, so it looks even better. I'd love to see some SEC teams in the tourney as they haven't seen a real defense in ages. Lot's of top defenses in the B12.

I can’t wait to see how the SEC does. I think they will be absolutely be exposed this tournament and you couldn’t be more right about the SEC not playing any defense.

 

[KingAG]

We do disagree. Karaban was matched up with Hopkins for the most part. Hopkins totally outplayed him. Mullens was matched up with Mitchell mostly. Mitchell’s physicality and quickness completely took him out of the game and Solo looked scared the whole game. Our only players who were not intimidated were Silas, Ross and Reed who was outplayed by Ebijor.

Hopkins outplayed Karaban. Agreed. It wasn’t because of physical attributes. Hopkins scored 3 times on Alex. One was a 3. Mullins got plenty of open looks and opportunities in the second half, he just didn’t convert and/or made a boneheaded decision(see him throwing the ball in the stands, unforced). What does solo bricking shots and looking scared have to do with physicality? Solo is just a shell of the shooter he was and offers nothing else outside of that.

We were down 7 with a chance to cut it to 4 and proceed to miss 4 consecutive open shots. That’s why we lost the game.

Our advantage was supposed to be shooting, we shot 3-19 from behind the arc. That’s why we lost.

We gave up 24 points on 16 turnovers which allowed them to avoid out half court defense, set up pressure and speed up are shaky ball handlers and passers. That’s why we lost.

If you want to argue they were rattled you’d get no argument from me because j agree. I just don’t agree that they were physically incapable if meeting the challenge or that their physical “limitations” is why they lost. Because neither of those are true. They lost because they missed open shots and gave up 24 points off turnovers. Many of which were unforced.

 

[RuffRuff]

Michigan looks good partly because they are pretty athletic and play in a league of unathletic teams. This Purdue team is slow and not a lot of size, they make Michigan look like world beaters. Somehow it’s only a 2 point game

You don't think it's because they have three first round picks in their front court?

B10 is overrated in my opinion too - imbalanced teams, mainly offensive with teams like Purdue, Illinois and Nebraska. UM plays with their food a lot.