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March General CBB Discussion Thread

RuffRuff said:
Well then this year will be put to the test, because of the 4 teams most are considered front runners, guards are not the strength of Duke, UM or Florida. AZ does have some strong guard play, as does Houston. We also have solid guard play. The two favored teams are both so because of their FC's.
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Will be interesting to see how it shakes out.
 
Mr. French said:
At risk of getting into the minutiae further, the fact is that the statistical forecasts are saying these things. That is indeed a fact. He’s not saying it’s a fact that these things will happen, he’s saying it’s a fact that statistically that’s being forecasted. It’s not just someone’s opinion.
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I'm sorry, were these rating systems not created by humans ? They're not some independent AI generated super algorithm. They're rating systems designed by someone who has an opinion as to what components of that system are important. That someone's statistical rating system can be used to claim one team would win or lose games against another hypothetical opponent is not a "fact". But whatever.
 
uconngb said:
This will be Exhibit A of my longstanding argument that polls don’t matter.

No way Miami gets a 6 seed, which is what their ranking suggest. Can’t believe that was even an argument with someone.
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I wish they meant nothing. But like guards vs. frontcourt, it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out. Objectively, based on KenPom and Torvik, given where teams were seeded previous and rated similarly, Miami is a 12/13 and that's if they don't lose, which will push them further down. Maybe an 11 ? Depends on where they finish. Very doubtful they get close to a 6 like the polls suggest, but which are they closer to in the end ?
 
DRBackup said:
I wish they meant nothing. But like guards vs. frontcourt, it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out. Objectively, based on KenPom and Torvik, given where teams were seeded previous and rated similarly, Miami is a 12/13 and that's if they don't lose, which will push them further down. Maybe an 11 ? Depends on where they finish. Very doubtful they get close to a 6 like the polls suggest, but which are they closer to in the end ?
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Let’s hope they win their tourney so it’s not even a convo.
 
DRBackup said:
I'm sorry, were these rating systems not created by humans ? They're not some independent AI generated super algorithm. They're rating systems designed by someone who has an opinion as to what components of that system are important. That someone's statistical rating system can be used to claim one team would win or lose games against another hypothetical opponent is not a "fact". But whatever.
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oh boy.

this isn't that hard to get.
 
Arkansas walloping Texas by 30 - so many extreme blowouts this year.
 
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Miami of Florida is somehow 24-6…cupcake schedule. They are athletic at least. I’d love to see them in the sweet 16.
 
uconnbaseball said:
Miami of Florida is somehow 24-6…cupcake schedule. They are athletic at least. I’d love to see them in the sweet 16.
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They are strong inside and have an excellent point guard. Not very deep though, and they don't always shoot the ball well from the perimeter. Great job by Lucas in his first season coaching.
 
Purdue down 9 @ the half on the road to sub .500 Northwestern
 
aceboon said:
Purdue down 9 @ the half on the road to sub .500 Northwestern
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something is off in that locker room - but they have a lot of old guys going through the motions in their last year. Can they turn it on in the big tourney?

Houston down 10 to Baylor at home with 5 to play at home. Kinda stuff old Kelvin teams would never have an issue with.

You have to ask yourself how may of these teams are experiencing some late regular season burnout before the real season begins.
 
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This Houston team is operating at about 50% of the defensive intensity of the Houston teams of the last few years. Not sure what is going on with this group.

Amazing how these bad teams always fold down the stretch.
 
Baylor has been playing the last three minutes like they’re trying to throw this game
 
Also, Houston games are still unwatchable unless they have an interesting matchup. Rich man’s Seton Hall
 
RuffRuff said:
Arkansas walloping Texas by 30 - so many extreme blowouts this year.
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105-85. I can't even wrap my head around it. Ark scored 56 and 49 each half. Does either team not play any kind of defense at all?
 
Kolumbo said:
105-85. I can't even wrap my head around it. Ark scored 56 and 49 each half. Does either team not play any kind of defense at all?
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SEC - the Southeast, we don't play defense Conference.
 
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RuffRuff said:
You have to ask yourself how may of these teams are experiencing some late regular season burnout before the real season begins.
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No, I do not have to ask myself how ma[n]y of these teams are experiencing some late season burnout before the real season begins.

If you've personally felt compelled to ask yourself this question, just say so. Stop pretending you speak for others when it's not so.
 
KingAG said:
I call bs. How did Akron do it? How did Kent St do it? What about Toledo? Well I’ll be damned Ohio got it done as well. Actually every team in their conference did it. They scheduled that soft because they didn’t think they were that good. That’s all him trying to put make up on a pig after the fact.

1 challenge. 1.
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Here is your proof

www.extrapointsmb.com

Here is a list of everybody Miami (OH) TRIED to schedule in men's basketball this season

Don't blame the Redhawks for not having enough big names on their schedule. They tried to add plenty of them...and I've got the proof.
www.extrapointsmb.com www.extrapointsmb.com
 
it's all slowly starting to come together. The top teams will fade, or a key injury catches up with them, like for Michigan and TTech. Arizona will choke. The bracket will open up for Uconn.
 
navery12 said:
Here is your proof

www.extrapointsmb.com

Here is a list of everybody Miami (OH) TRIED to schedule in men's basketball this season

Don't blame the Redhawks for not having enough big names on their schedule. They tried to add plenty of them...and I've got the proof.
www.extrapointsmb.com www.extrapointsmb.com
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"The university sent me more than 20 emails, including many high-level P4 schools. "

There are 368 division 1 programs. Unless they have a lot more this is even more damning. How does this justify scheduling 3 D2 schools? I don't care a great deal at this point. But this isn't some smoking gun.
 
rrskyjf said:
it's all slowly starting to come together. The top teams will fade, or a key injury catches up with them, like for Michigan and TTech. Arizona will choke. The bracket will open up for Uconn.
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Danny will pull out the sage and the underwear.
 
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KingAG said:
"The university sent me more than 20 emails, including many high-level P4 schools. "

There are 368 division 1 programs. Unless they have a lot more this is even more damning. How does this justify scheduling 3 D2 schools? I don't care a great deal at this point. But this isn't some smoking gun.
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You said the coach and AD were lying about trying to schedule top teams. You were wrong, it's OK to admit that. You don't need to double down when presented with proof they did in fact reach out to a bunch of schools
 
navery12 said:
You said the coach and AD were lying about trying to schedule top teams. You were wrong, it's OK to admit that. You don't need to double down when presented with proof they did in fact reach out to a bunch of schools
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No I didn't. I said I didn't buy that they couldn't schedule better games. I even made it clear they didn't have to be top teams. Showing that they tried to schedule 20 programs out of 300+ proves my point not yours.

You think this proves they exhausted all options before scheduling 3 D2 programs? Lol

"No one would play us" really should be translated into "the 20 programs we contacted wouldn't play us". Would be more accurate. But of course they weren't going for accuracy.
 
KingAG said:
No I didn't. I said I didn't buy they couldn't schedule better games. I even made it clear they didn't have to be top teams. Showing that they tried to schedule 20 programs out of 300+ proves my point not yours.
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Yes, you did. It's literally in the post I quoted from you. I said they tried to schedule better teams, and posted quotes from Travis Steele. You responded and said "I call bs" and "That’s all him trying to put make up on a pig after the fact."

We all agree Miami's schedule stinks, there's a reason they have the 196th rated SOS right now. My only point here is they tried to schedule better and the power conference teams didn't want to play them.
 
superjohn said:
He just keeps digging a deeper hole on this.
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They show "proof" of emailing 20 programs out of 300+ and you think that justifies scheduling 3 D2 programs? Im in bizzaro world
 
navery12 said:
Yes, you did. It's literally in the post I quoted from you. I said they tried to schedule better teams, and posted quotes from Travis Steele. You responded and said "I call bs" and "That’s all him trying to put make up on a pig after the fact."

We all agree Miami's schedule stinks, there's a reason they have the 196th rated SOS right now. My only point here is they tried to schedule better and the power conference teams didn't want to play them.
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Emailing 20 programs is not trying! WTH lmao. It just isn't. Again pull up where I said I wanted them to schedule top teams? This does nothing to change that they scheduled terribly and it isnt because the top teams they contacted didn't want to play them. They also don't have the 196th SOS. That would be an astronomical improvement.

Yes I call BS on them having the schedule they have because top teams didn't want to play. Why? Because that doesn't excuse the schedule they had. He's attempting to put make up on his pig. And you're buying it. I never said "they were lying about trying to schedule top teams". I literally said they didn't have to be top teams. Pull that up.
 
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