Maine Transfer Issac Vann visiting UConn on 4/18

[upstater]

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's priority number 1. My first priority by a mile is another guard, preferably combo. We are thin as hell right now, and well and truly *ucked if Purvis leaves.

Assuming Purvis comes back, he definitely leaves a year later.

UConn seems to have the Deandre Daniels type 3/4 already on campus in Durham and Larrier. I'd love to see them grab a 6'5" combo who is a bit quicker and more of combo/small forward tweener, ala Rip Hamilton.

We've been specializing a lot in these NBA-sized 3s who are a little bit oddball for the college game.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

One year from now we will have 5 open scholarships and will only have 2 wings on the roster with Larrier and Jackson. Between this year and next year we will probably add 3 more wings. Hopefully Hamidou Diallo is one of them, but we still have 2 more spots for Brandon Randolph/Issac Vann/Alpha Diallo, etc. This is not a make or break scholarship

He takes a scholarship next year even if he sits . I thought we only had three
Maybe I'm confused.

 

[Rocktheworld]

We have a had one redshirt transfer sitting on our bench almost every season with Ollie. Also, how many we have on our bench right now is completely irrelevant to how I feel about our prospects of adding another.

So now 8% is "so many"? BTW Purvis was on the bench in 2014. I don't see the massive dilemma with having 12 vs 13 available players.

Without getting into the issue of whether a Maine transfer has the ability to contribute at this level, isn't this a guy who would effectively be a 2017 recruit anyway?

Why not wait to see how our 2017 recruiting shakes out -- a kid of this caliber and skill set may be attainable through the "usual" high school recruiting channels.

Can't ignore the fact that on of those two recruits will have had a year of D1 experience and another year practicing directly with the team, while the other... not to mention, the timing doesn't work to wait and see how the class "shakes out." The early sign period for 2017 recruits is after the beginning of next season. Vann will have found a new home long before we have any idea how the 2017 class will turn out. Hell, we still have plenty of time left for the 2016 class to finalize.

 

[Matrim55]

He takes a scholarship next year even if he sits . I thought we only had three
Maybe I'm confused.

The quote is "one year from now" - meaning after the 2016/17 season. That's the direction the conversation took since it was a discussion over taking Isaac Vann vs. taking some unnamed 2017 recruit who would come in as a freshman.

You are correct in that we have 3 open scholarships coming into the 2016/17 season.

 

[ARIDE]

He is a state resident wont need scholarship ...just like Drumond..in state tuition and financial aid. They will find the money..

 

[david]

UMaine basketball's leading scorer plans to transfer - The Portland Press Herald / Maine Sunday Telegram

A comment posted at the end of this article

"...While most transfers usually are required to sit out a year, I believe Walsh released Vann from his scholarship making him eligible to play immediately."

I know it's really sad to put any stock into what some random comment says, but does anyone know if that's even possible? Can a coach release a transfer from scholarship thus allowing them to play immediately elsewhere? I've never heard of it before.

 

[tcf15]

UMaine basketball's leading scorer plans to transfer - The Portland Press Herald / Maine Sunday Telegram

A comment posted at the end of this article

"...While most transfers usually are required to sit out a year, I believe Walsh released Vann from his scholarship making him eligible to play immediately."

I know it's really sad to put any stock into what some random comment says, but does anyone know if that's even possible? Can a coach release a transfer from scholarship thus allowing them to play immediately elsewhere? I've never heard of it before.

Pretty sure every transfer needs to be released from their scholarship. He's gonna need to sit for a year.

 

[Leebo]

UMaine basketball's leading scorer plans to transfer - The Portland Press Herald / Maine Sunday Telegram

A comment posted at the end of this article

"...While most transfers usually are required to sit out a year, I believe Walsh released Vann from his scholarship making him eligible to play immediately."

I know it's really sad to put any stock into what some random comment says, but does anyone know if that's even possible? Can a coach release a transfer from scholarship thus allowing them to play immediately elsewhere? I've never heard of it before.

In addition to every transfer requiring a release, didn't the NCAA eliminate waivers for immediate eligibility except for grad students?

 

[AZHuskiePop]

I live right down the road from the Maine Black Bears and the only thing I will say is that Maine the past couple years in particular, has had all of their best talent transfer out. They have a guy who will be playing for Kansas State next year named Justin Edwards that will be pretty good. I think Isaac Vann looked pretty good to me, when I saw him play. Sometimes I go to their games because they are cheap and highly accessible for me. It would be a nice get for future roster depth. I do not think he could be a starter, with the influx of talent coming in, but I do think that he may be on the talent level of Lasan Kromah by his senior year.

 

[Huskybass]

I saw the kid play in a CT all star game a few year ago. He stood out as one of the better players. I would like to see him in a Husky uniform if the scholarship is available. I think he could play at this level.

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

The 2018/19 team is shaping up to be special if Adams stays all 4 years and brings Larrier along for the ride. The Adams (Sr.), Gilbert (Jr.) and Larrier (Sr.) nucleus would be a Final4 caliber nucleus. You just never know who may leave though a la Hamilton to break up the nucleus. Without one-and-dones everything becomes cyclical and you kinda just have to hit it right like UConn did between Kemba and Bazz. This kid could be a key piece to that Final4 puzzle.

I am looking way into the future and of course recruiting is fluid. The transfer scene is fluid also so you never know who could be picked up as a prize to help us get to the Promised Land before that. I like this pick up. Its fine.

 

[Bryan Lord]

2018/19 is our year, consider it a lock.

 

[Chief00]

Quite frankly, if the dude can play - he can play - don't matter what school he went to! Who cares?

 

[UConnStats]

He is a state resident wont need scholarship ...just like Drumond..in state tuition and financial aid. They will find the money..

This does sometimes happen. I think something similar just happened with a kid transferring to Cuse or Louisville, my apologies for not recalling which it was. Vann may be a bit too high quality of a player for something like that even if he's only generating A10 interest.

 

[mauconnfan]

I'm not sure why we say "only A10" interest. There's a couple guys on St Joes who could play for us now and a lot, more than likely 2 or 3. There aren't as many players out there in the market for transfers as they're full, and he's a regional kid for now. To have a St Joes interested I believe is a good thing.

 

[Deadrody]

Not everybody on the team needs to be a future NBA player. Sometimes you just need guys who can do a job.

I hope we get this kid.

See, also - Ricky Moore

 

[Deadrody]

It's like the concept of depth is lost in this guy. No one is saying he's gonna average 16 and 6 for us, but the idea this kid could play a specific role, or at least be a solid third string winger is not ridiculous.

Actually, it's not a stretch to think a kid that could get 16 and 6 as a freshman at Maine could potentially do the same as a senior at UConn.

 

[Deadrody]

I don't want to use a scholarship on a regular transfer who is unproven right now. We need depth for NEXT year, not a couple years down the road.

We've only got 3 guards on the roster at the moment; one who may already have a foot out the door while the other 2 are underclassmen. Our priority right now should be a PG/CG that can play next year, not a 2/3 shooting specialist from a low-major who won't be eligible until 2017.

Just my 2¢. It's ok to disagree, but please respond to all parts of my argument and not just being selective. You're a much better poster than that, Matrim.

Got it. Thankfully, KO and his staff are better at multitasking than you.

 

[UConnStats]

I'm not sure why we say "only A10" interest. There's a couple guys on St Joes who could play for us now and a lot, more than likely 2 or 3. There aren't as many players out there in the market for transfers as they're full, and he's a regional kid for now. To have a St Joes interested I believe is a good thing.

I think it's fair to say that having Iona and St Joes' interest versus Syracuse, Zona, ect. puts more pressure on scouting. They have to really believe almost everyone else is missing something. St Joes is a wonderfully coached team, but they always have a lot less talent to work with than UConn does.

With that being said, I haven't seen any of this kid besides the first game of his career. Aside from a rough game against a good Stony Brook team, he went on a tear for the last 5 games of his season. It would be nice to see a local kid play his way to UConn and succeed though.

 

[Deadrody]

I think it's fair to say that having Iona and St Joes' interest versus Syracuse, Zona, ect. puts more pressure on scouting. They have to really believe almost everyone else is missing something. St Joes is a wonderfully coached team, but they always have a lot less talent to work with than UConn does.

With that being said, I haven't seen any of this kid besides the first game of his career. Aside from a rough game against a good Stony Brook team, he went on a tear for the last 5 games of his season. It would be nice to see a local kid play his way to UConn and succeed though.

Well, to be fair, UConn is still dealing with some of the scholarship limitation fallout from the APR era. And then add in the Hamilton early exit and possibly Brimah and Purvis and a lot of other D1 teams are probably not in a similar situation. Plus the kid is from CT and played against UConn this season, so our coaching staff probably has a better idea of his talent than the vast majority of other schools.

 

[intlzncster]

I think it's fair to say that having Iona and St Joes' interest versus Syracuse, Zona, ect. puts more pressure on scouting. They have to really believe almost everyone else is missing something. St Joes is a wonderfully coached team, but they always have a lot less talent to work with than UConn does.

I'm not sure why we say "only A10" interest. There's a couple guys on St Joes who could play for us now and a lot, more than likely 2 or 3. There aren't as many players out there in the market for transfers as they're full, and he's a regional kid for now. To have a St Joes interested I believe is a good thing.

I'd take Langston Galloway in a country minute.

 

[aceboon]

I'd take Langston Galloway in a country minute.

DeAndre Bembry as well, he's turned into a very solid NBA prospect

 

[Greathusky]

6'6" freshman from Maine. Averaged 16 points and 6 rebounds a game. Originally from Bridgeport, CT.

I love this kid. I saw him in person twice and observed that he was playing at a different level than anyone on the court.

Here is my Journey to 351 blog entry for the Maine game:

Binghamton (63) vs Maine (74) 01/31/2016

 

[Marat]

I love this kid. I saw him in person twice and observed that he was playing at a different level than anyone on the court.

Here is my Journey to 351 blog entry for the Maine game:

Binghamton (63) vs Maine (74) 01/31/2016

Btw, I love your Husky room (man cave) picture.

 

[Greathusky]

Btw, I love your Husky room (man cave) picture.

That was taken for the ESPN Insider magazine. I had my five minutes of fame with that picture.

 

[businesslawyer]

Ah yes, one guy who transferred from a non-D1 school and was successful means all of them will be. My point is I'm quite skeptical of honing in on a transfer from a program like Maine. The program where a transfer comes from is absolutely relevant, especially when that program is one of the worst in the country. It's not the final determining factor of course, but to eschew it is laughable. If the coaching staff has seen enough of this kid that they think he's a diamond in the rough, then great - I hope he works out. That doesn't mean there isn't reason to be skeptical that we're looking to fill our roster with a Maine transfer who put up decent numbers in a horrendous league, injury or not.

Actually, there were two NESCAC transfers helping higher end D-1 schools this year alone. A kid named Matt Hart scored over 1000 points his first two years at Hamilton, transferred to and walked on at George WAshington, and was the 8th man in the rotation as they won the NIT (and earned a schollie). I'd put Hart at 6'2" at most and without D-1 athleticism. But he helped a team beat UVA and win the NIT.

The point is if you watch a player play and want to disagree with the coaches' evaluations, o.k. I guess. But if you think your view of his resume on paper is worth anything compared to our staff having seen him or film and wanting to get him to campus, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Waquoit]

Rick Carlisle started at Maine.

 

[Pudge]

Rick Carlisle started at Maine.

Take a look at where Lisbon, NY is ... and think where you could go from Lisbon High School in 1977? Near where the GREAT Rutgers FB Brian Leonard was from. Carlisle needed someone to take a chance; and HE was damn good at Virginia ... and decent in the NBA.

Somewhere out there, you will see hoop or football players coming from strange outposts. It happens. Vann looks like a good fit to me.

 

[6xChamps]

 

[CardiacAndre7]

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