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Luke Murray and BC?

He wasn't the genius you say before his one year at UConn. I stand by what I said, and you seem to agree.

temery said:
I never thought of Cam as being any smarter than any other player, but he was flawlessly cast for his role as a Husky. When his NBA careers is over my guess is he will be thought of as one of the best players to ever come out of UConn.


Oy.

He was always a smart player. His physical abilities are the least of his attributes - he is absolutely nothing special as an athlete. His mind is why he was able to progress from a low-major prospect playing at Loyola, to Rutgers, to UConn, to the NBA.
 
That place has been a mess since Jim O'Brien was there which makes it remarkable what Al Skinner was able to accomplish there. Terrible program in a city and campus that doesn't care about college basketball. If Luke turned it around and made a couple of tournaments he would be set for bigger and better things but BC is a place for coaching careers to die. He would be making a big bet on himself with the odds stacked against him.

BC turned on Al Skinner thinking they would do better than him and they went from a 7 seed his second to last season to the biggest laughingstock in power conference basketball.
 
If Luke takes that job and makes that team .500 in the ACC, he’ll be talked about for every big job opening there is. I’m just not sure I see the path to getting to .500 unless there is a serious financial commitment. IMO it’d be easier to take a decent mid major job and win there, which would still make Luke a big name for the next big job opening.
If is awfully big word
 
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I was told by a reasonably good source (during the 2024 tournament run) that one thing both Kimani & Luke are very cognizant of is how damaging it could be to take a job where the head coach is setup to fail.

Unless things change drastically at Chestnut Hill, BC absolutely qualifies a a place where the head men's basketball coach is setup to fail.

For Luke's sake I hope this isn't a situation where he is so determined to land a head coaching job that he is willing to overlook that there may not be enough of a commitment by the school to make a possibility.
 
I was told by a reasonably good source (during the 2024 tournament run) that one thing both Kimani & Luke are very cognizant of is how damaging it could be to take a job where the head coach is setup to fail.

Unless things change drastically at Chestnut Hill, BC absolutely qualifies a a place where the head men's basketball coach is setup to fail.

For Luke's sake I hope this isn't a situation where he is so determined to land a head coaching job that he is willing to overlook that there may not be enough of a commitment by the school to make a possibility.
Seems like everyone “in the know” is suggesting that Luke is negotiating for a commitment to NIL. If he gets that, great for him. But seems he’s holding the cards.
 
1.) Luke Murray is awesome, he's been integral to UConn's success the last few years and I'll cheer him on wherever he is.

2.) BC is an ACC job, if he can 2-3x his salary and get commitments on NIL, why not? He could fairly easily transform BC into a top 4-5 program in the league and a national ranking. He'd also be a friendly on potential conference realignment if the ACC comes knocking for UConn.

3.) As a UConn fan, I'd hate to lose him, but if other programs are looking to hire our assistants, it means we're doing something right (and we'll continue to attract elite assistant coaching talent).

4.) Kimani should be getting similar consideration for open positions, though I hope he stays too (selfishly)
 
Kentucky put a team together this season with a total salary north of $20 million. That's where this is all going. Hard to see a scenario where BC plays in that world.
How was their return on that $22M? At some point, the people funding these teams are going to want to see a better ROI than a second round flameout.
 
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Word in the very, very small world of BC Twittersphere is that Luke was seen in Chestnut Hill yesterday. Seems like it’s a done deal if he gets the NIL commitment required to be competitive. I’d hate to lose him, but remember…

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It just doesn’t matter.
 
Luker,
A terrible job with little or no interest in the community, sports dept., and anything else. Al Skinner dis a credible job about a hundred years ago. Place where coaches goes to fail.
 
If Luke takes a mid-major job his name will be cache enough to bring some of the right players in to run the system he wants. The power programs will come calling soon enough.

BC is a bad idea.

1.) Luke Murray is awesome, he's been integral to UConn's success the last few years and I'll cheer him on wherever he is.

2.) BC is an ACC job, if he can 2-3x his salary and get commitments on NIL, why not? He could fairly easily transform BC into a top 4-5 program in the league and a national ranking. He'd also be a friendly on potential conference realignment if the ACC comes knocking for UConn.

3.) As a UConn fan, I'd hate to lose him, but if other programs are looking to hire our assistants, it means we're doing something right (and we'll continue to attract elite assistant coaching talent).

4.) Kimani should be getting similar consideration for open positions, though I hope he stays too (selfishly)
If he gets the guarantees he needs regarding NIL then I agree that he could turn BC into a top 4–5 program in the ACC because after Duke, UNC and maybe Virginia/Louisville, it is wide open. Again, assuming he gets the money to put a solid roster in place, he gets to beat up on the likes of Syracuse, Pitt, GTech, FL State & Stanford. And he should be right in the mix to compete with NC State and Clemson for the fifth spot in the ACC. Lots of low-hanging fruit in that conference.
 
I was told by a reasonably good source (during the 2024 tournament run) that one thing both Kimani & Luke are very cognizant of is how damaging it could be to take a job where the head coach is setup to fail.

Unless things change drastically at Chestnut Hill, BC absolutely qualifies a a place where the head men's basketball coach is setup to fail.

For Luke's sake I hope this isn't a situation where he is so determined to land a head coaching job that he is willing to overlook that there may not be enough of a commitment by the school to make a possibility.
It's likely that things will change (perhaps significantly) at BC. The President of BC, who was not a supporter of investment in its athletic programs is retiring this summer after being in this position since 1996. His successor purportedly values and will prioritize athletics to a much greater degree. For Luke's sake, I hope so!
 
Thanks, good catch. Calhoun told Taliek to stay with Mac and not leave him to help. It worked. Ricky would still be a god coach for SU.

Funny how the human mind just erases painful memories.

2006 Big East Tourney semi finals: national number 1 ranked UConn up three with 11.2 second left in the game. The whole arena knows McNamara will take the last shot. He gets it - he makes the three, and we loose in OT.

McNamara finishes the game with 17 points and 13 assists. (one shy of tourney record for assists)
 
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Funny how the human mind just erases painful memories.

2006 Big East Tourney semi finals: national number 1 ranked UConn up three with 11.2 second left in the game. The whole arena knows McNamara will take the last shot. He gets it - he makes the three, and we loose in OT.

McNamara finishes the game with 17 points and 13 assists. (one shy of tourney record for assists)

Taliek wasn't guarding him in 2006. TB graduated in 2004. But your first sentence is still true.
 
Don’t think he ever played against him. Maybe one year?
Ricky Moore's last season was 1998-1999, as we all know. McNamara's career went from 2002-2006.

Remember when most players stayed at a school for 4 years? Seems like a long time ago. I guess it was.
 
Here is a take on Luke Murray taking the BCU job.

Everyone knows this is a tough place to win. It is as close to a coach's graveyard as you can get. If Luke succeeds he puts himself in position for a very good job. If he has a tough time, well this is a very tough place to win, he took off more than he (or maybe anyone) could chew. It is a no lose scenario even if he loses. Plus, he learns a little sitting in the big chair. Picks up some decent dough. No lose.
 
1.) Luke Murray is awesome, he's been integral to UConn's success the last few years and I'll cheer him on wherever he is.

2.) BC is an ACC job, if he can 2-3x his salary and get commitments on NIL, why not? He could fairly easily transform BC into a top 4-5 program in the league and a national ranking. He'd also be a friendly on potential conference realignment if the ACC comes knocking for UConn.

3.) As a UConn fan, I'd hate to lose him, but if other programs are looking to hire our assistants, it means we're doing something right (and we'll continue to attract elite assistant coaching talent).

4.) Kimani should be getting similar consideration for open positions, though I hope he stays too (selfishly)

BC is a bad job.

You think he gets them into the likes of Virginia, NC State, Miami, Clemson, SMU? Those are the top 4-5 programs (aside from the obvious Dook and Carolina).
 
2.) BC is an ACC job, if he can 2-3x his salary and get commitments on NIL, why not? He could fairly easily transform BC into a top 4-5 program in the league and a national ranking. He'd also be a friendly on potential conference realignment if the ACC comes knocking for UConn.
Top 4 or 5 program? Delusional. In 2023/2024, BC's spending on mens basketball ranked 13/18 in the ACC and that is before rev share and NIL really kicked in which BC lagged in so overall spending may have been in the bottom 2 or 3. And, the other ACC schools are increasing their investment. Remember, BC has just committed to full revenue sharing which tells you what the administration thinks about paying players and their NIL infrastructure is behind their peers.
 
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Here is a take on Luke Murray taking the BCU job.

Everyone knows this is a tough place to win. It as close to a coach's graveyard as you can get. If Luke succeeds he puts himself in position for a very good job. If he has a tough time, well this is a very tough place to win, he took off more than he (or maybe anyone) could chew. It is a no lose scenario even if he loses. Plus, he learns a little sitting in the big chair. Picks up some decent dough. No lose.
It's a really risky job with lots of downside. He would be going into a bad job and if he fails, he will probably never get another head coaching job. When he leaves UConn, he should target a top mid major job where he is walking into a winning situation. You only leave UConn once.
 
BC is a bad job.

You think he gets them into the likes of Virginia, NC State, Miami, Clemson, SMU? Those are the top 4-5 programs (aside from the obvious Dook and Carolina).
You forgot Louisville and Syracuse which are in the upper tier of the ACC.
 
Also, it’s because he’s a really freaking smart player.

What is wrong with you people?

Turn on the NBA. He’s not averaging 11 pts and five assists in a read and react system because he’s plucky or gritty, or holy crap, white, it’s because he’s smart as hell on the court and makes terrific decisions in that offense.
All of these things are true:
1) A lot of players like Cam are cast as "heady", "high-IQ", "tough-nosed" and all the other usual cliches, since it's assumed they must have limited athleticism for pretty clearly stereotypical reasons
2) Cam actually is one of the savviest players we've ever had in addition to being elite at getting under opponents' skin
3) Fans often assume that this sort of player must make an excellent coach, and are very often wrong when proclaiming that a smart player will be a must-get coach
 
Top 4 or 5 program? Delusional. In 2023/2024, BC's spending on mens basketball ranked 13/18 in the ACC and that is before rev share and NIL really kicked in which BC lagged in so overall spending may have been in the bottom 2 or 3. And, the other ACC schools are increasing their investment. Remember, BC has just committed to full revenue sharing which tells you what the administration thinks about paying players and their NIL infrastructure is behind their peers.

Read what I wrote. IF he gets NIL commitments, you don't think Luke Murray could turn BC into a top 4-5 program in the ACC? Outside of Duke and Carolina, that league is wide open. Let's give Luke some credit here.
 
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