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Lou: If she plays like she did today which one of the pre-season best 5 will she knock out for first team All-American?

Geno has said several times that Lou is very steady. Very consistent. I’ve been saying for months now that our best lineup is Azzi, Dorka, Lou, Caroline and AE. Our primary subs Nika, Ayanna and Aubrey. Lou is no surprise to me. She’s a proven 3 point shooter with size to finish at the rim and a lot of experience as a go to scorer.
 
Let’s wait and assess her play over the next 5 games after they return from their 2 game Phil Knight showcase in Oregon. We’ll have a better sample size. It sure looked to me like we’ve got something in Lou. No doubt Lou feels better about her ability to play with this team.

I look at it differently. Lou played as well against Kutztown as any of our other “proven” veteran players. I think she started in place of Ducharme who did not dress today, but should play and start Thursday against Northeastern. I’m guessing Lou will be the first one off the bench.
Based on Geno's comments, I think he sees Caroline and Lou as basically even skill wise and temperament.

Caroline I think is a little better driving and posting and defense while Lou is probably a better 3 pt shooter
 
Geno has said several times that Lou is very steady. Very consistent. I’ve been saying for months now that our best lineup is Azzi, Dorka, Lou, Caroline and AE. Our primary subs Nika, Ayanna and Aubrey. Lou is no surprise to me. She’s a proven 3 point shooter with size to finish at the rim and a lot of experience as a go to scorer.
Geno has stated that Nika is the PG with Azzi filling in, so it will either be Lou or Caroline coming in off the bench.
 
Um, amusing, off the wall thread. Lou looks like a very good player. Today proves nothing as far as comparisons. It was against a team inferior in talent to maybe every other team we will play. More relevant, she seems to have fared well for Fairfield against some of their better opponents. At Fairfield she was not surrounded on her team by the level of talent she has at UConn. Meaning she is unlikely to be the focus which should be helpful to her. If she becomes the focus it means she is even better then expected or, heaven forbid, some of the others might be performing below expectations. I’d guess the former is more likely and she has a long way to show she should be mentioned in the same breath as Clark. I just hope she is good enough to both help us beat good teams and make her own name. She looked for real. Quick good decisions and quick accurate shot.
 
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Let’s wait and assess her play over the next 5 games after they return from their 2 game Phil Knight showcase in Oregon. We’ll have a better sample size. It sure looked to me like we’ve got something in Lou. No doubt Lou feels better about her ability to play with this team.

I look at it differently. Lou played as well against Kutztown as any of our other “proven” veteran players. I think she started in place of Ducharme who did not dress today, but should play and start Thursday against Northeastern. I’m guessing Lou will be the first one off the bench.
After this performance and after listening to Geno’s postgame talk, I think it’s possible/likely that Caroline and Lou may alternate starting. I certainly think Caroline is much less of a certainty to start than she was before this game. I was fairly sure that Lou would be coming off the bench and that Caroline would be starting. Now, who knows? It’s a good problem to have though!
Lou was really impressive in this game. The whole team was impressive!
 
After this performance and after listening to Geno’s postgame talk, I think it’s possible/likely that Caroline and Lou may alternate starting. I certainly think Caroline is much less of a certainty to start than she was before this game. I was fairly sure that Lou would be coming off the bench and that Caroline would be starting. Now, who knows? It’s a good problem to have though!
Lou was really impressive in this game. The whole team was impressive!
I think you are underestimating Geno's willingness to reward players on seniority and past performances so all things being equal, he would like to start Caroline who had earned alot of consideration with her performances last year that effectively saved our season.

I also think Caroline has a significant edge in defense, is a bit longer, a bit better post up and maybe facilitates the break a little better. (JMO). But Geno will not hesitate to start Lou if Caroline's play is below par.
 
Geno has said several times that Lou is very steady. Very consistent. I’ve been saying for months now that our best lineup is Azzi, Dorka, Lou, Caroline and AE. Our primary subs Nika, Ayanna and Aubrey. Lou is no surprise to me. She’s a proven 3 point shooter with size to finish at the rim and a lot of experience as a go to scorer.
Let's face it, Nika is our point guard. She is our leader on the floor. I was at the game, and you could see the interaction between Nika and Geno during free throws on the sidelines. He trusts her, and so do I. If we start Caroline and Lou together, we won't have a "difference maker" shooter coming off the bench. This is our opportunity to have such a player in Lou. It's tough when Azzi or Caroline come to the bench, but if they are replaced by Lou, the anxiety of missing those players do not exist. Back to Nika, rebounds, steals, assists, and of course tough defense is what makes her so valuable. Putting that input on the bench weakens the team, not improves it. Yes, there will be times when we may need all our shooters on the floor together, but if we don't have to, we should not.
 
Team First - Nika is the point guard and the team leader. The starting lineup with be Nika, Azzi, Caroline, Aaliyah and Dorka. This has been my position since Paige went down.

Off the bench with be Lou, Aubrey, and Ayanna. That is a very solid 8 person rotation. And will not be surprised if Ines gets minutes. She may be the last on the team but she showed yesterday she belongs. Remember, Geno plays the players he trusts.
 
Lou was awesome. It will be hard to keep her off the floor. Nika looked great, too, even better than last season. What an awful luxury Geno has with this group! If it takes a couple more games for Caroline to get on the floor, we’re all going to get way too used to watching Lou… like shades of Lou Gehrig. Just kidding. When Caroline is ready, I’m going to be just as thrilled to watch her! I am used to great things from her too.
 
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If she plays like she did today which one of the pre-season best 5 will she knock out for first team All-American? Of course she won't have the same time and space against the top opponents and we don't know about her defense against the top players she'll face. She can shoot from outside, closer to the basket, she drives and puts it up with either hand, she can pass the ball, and she can grab a few rebounds.

Convince me Clark is better.
The Law of Small Numbers is about to get you , friend. Sample size weighs heavily in Ms Clark's favor when considering D1 performances. But Lou is a fine addition to the UConn squad.
 
How many times do you think Geno had to see Paige play before he knew she had the goods? (No, I'm not comparing Lou to Paige so please don't go there.)
Not sure, he probably watched The Kid a few times. He probably waited until he saw her in an actual game too.

You're not comparing Senechal to The Kid, but you are comparing her to Clark. You're comparing someone who we are not even sure is going to start for UCONN (she may or Ducharme might??) to an All-American, a NLC winner, a Staley winner, and a NPOY candidate.

A better comparison would be The Kid to Clark. And at this point in their careers, Clark might be a little ahead. At least until The Kid can have a injury free year.
 
Not sure, he probably watched The Kid a few times. He probably waited until he saw her in an actual game too.

You're not comparing Senechal to The Kid, but you are comparing her to Clark. You're comparing someone who we are not even sure is going to start for UCONN (she may or Ducharme might??) to an All-American, a NLC winner, a Staley winner, and a NPOY candidate.

A better comparison would be The Kid to Clark. And at this point in their careers, Clark might be a little ahead. At least until The Kid can have a injury free year.
I’ll take Bueckers over Clark every time. In her one injury free season she accomplished everything that Clark is still trying to. Plus she didn’t have to flop and beg for calls while doing it.
 
I’ll take Bueckers over Clark every time. In her one injury free season she accomplished everything that Clark is still trying to. Plus she didn’t have to flop and beg for calls while doing it.
The NPOY voters agreed with you two years ago, even though Clark had better basic stats... and so do I. But be careful about saying it here -- on a UConn board! -- lest you collect a few "red thumbs."
 
The NPOY voters agreed with you two years ago, even though Clark had better basic stats... and so do I. But be careful about saying it here -- on a UConn board! -- lest you collect a few "red thumbs."
Careful saying what? I don’t care about stats, they can be manipulated. My point was that Bueckers is a better all around player than Clark.
 
Careful saying what? I don’t care about stats, they can be manipulated. My point was that Bueckers is a better all around player than Clark.
I’ll take Bueckers over Clark every time. In her one injury free season she accomplished everything that Clark is still trying to. Plus she didn’t have to flop and beg for calls while doing it.
Clark's basic stats were better all around, but the NPOY people still preferred Paige, and so do you and I. But if you point out a difference like this one -- which might account for it -- there are those on this board who will ding you for it.

For example, if someone says Nika only got so many assists yesterday because she was passing to great scorers, and you point out that this is also how Clark gets a lot of her assists, instead of seeing this as defending one of our own (ya know, by comparing her to another great player) you will get dinged for it.
 
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Clark's basic stats were better all around, but the NPOY people still preferred Paige, and so do you and I. But if you point out a difference like this one -- which might account for it -- there are those on this board who will ding you for it.

For example, if someone says Nika only got so many assists yesterday because she was passing to great scorers, and you point out that this is also how Clark gets a lot of her assists, instead of seeing this as defending one of our own (ya know, by comparing her to another great player) you will get dinged for it.
That’s not what I was saying. Clark does the flopping and begging. Bueckers doesn’t have to, she’s above it.
 
Caroline I think is a little better driving and posting and defense while Lou is probably a better 3 pt shooter
Is this the same Caroline who beat Azzi in a three point contest before they came to UConn?
 
This is exactly what I mean. Even appearing to criticize Clark is apparently forbidden on the UConn board, even if it's in the service of praising Paige.
Doesn’t concern me if someone doesn’t understand what they’re seeing. Maybe they belong on a Iowa board.
 
Did anyone else note a visual similarity between Lou2 and Kia Nurse? The fact that they are about the same height and wear the same uniform number may account for this. And their games are somewhat similar, although I suspect that Lou has a long way to go to match Kia on defense.

On the "who starts" question between Caroline and Lou, I will go out on a limb and say that one of them will start, i.e., that Nika will remain as PG. Nika has shown too much improvement in her areas of weakness not to maintain her starting role. How can you ignore 11 assists against 3 turnovers?

However, with Ice's unavailability, I think Caroline in particular will see time at the "4" position. Since Amari does not appear to be ready for prime time, the rotation for the 4 and 5 positions is not deep (although it is high quality) -- just Dorka, Aaliyah, and Ayanna. Caroline is strong enough on the boards to be credible at that position, which is how she and Lou can be on the court together. I think that Aubrey will find her place as a backup "2" guard.
 
I don't think we'll have to put Caroline (or Lou) at the 4 much, if at all, this year. But we will probably play 4-out with a smaller lineup when we mean to run. I'm thinking Nika Azzi Caroline Lou + any of the bigs, though Aaliyah or Ayanna would be interesting choices for this unit.

Lou has played post-D before, as has Caroline, so I don't think it will matter which one ends up there. It will just be switching 1-5. Even Nika could end up defending the post -- there's was a moment in the Indiana game last season when she held off Holmes in the low post. Nika is capable of anything!

As for Aubrey, I don't see her getting much guard time. She doesn't have the mindset for it -- still picks up her dribble before she knows where she's going with the ball (a guard no-no). But as a slasher from the wing she is still awesome.
 
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Yes, she beat Azzi, but it was when Azzi was wearing a boot on her right leg. If I remember correctly Azzi actually made more 3 point shots, but Caroline hit more in the final round.
Please.... they are both great basketball players and three pointer shooters! Who was
better Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle... the comparisons are endless. I have a favorite here
.. the one wearing the UCONN jersey!
 
Lou was awesome. It will be hard to keep her off the floor. Nika looked great, too, even better than last season. What an awful luxury Geno has with this group! If it takes a couple more games for Caroline to get on the floor, we’re all going to get way too used to watching Lou… like shades of Lou Gehrig. Just kidding. When Caroline is ready, I’m going to be just as thrilled to watch her! I am used to great things from her too.
You can stop right there. You don't keep a player that can do the things Lou can do on the bench. ;) Anyone that saw the game, that knows the game can see that!!! 18 points in the first half, and she was just warming up.
 
Please.... they are both great basketball players and three pointer shooters! Who was
better Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle... the comparisons are endless.
I have a favorite here
.. the one wearing the UCONN jersey!
I remember those discussions. There was never a consensus. BOTH were great in their heyday, and obvious HOF'ers. There were several players during that era that you knew without a doubt, were future Hall of Famers. Henry Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Johnny Bench, Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, etc.
 
The Law of Small Numbers is about to get you , friend. Sample size weighs heavily in Ms Clark's favor when considering D1 performances. But Lou is a fine addition to the UConn squad.
Yeah, if you are going to impose a rationality requirement for enthusiasm on the boneyard, this place is going to get pretty dull really quickly.
 
Um, amusing, off the wall thread. Lou looks like a very good player. Today proves nothing as far as comparisons. It was against a team inferior in talent to maybe every other team we will play. More relevant, she seems to have fared well for Fairfield against some of their better opponents. At Fairfield she was not surrounded on her team by the level of talent she has at UConn. Meaning she is unlikely to be the focus which should be helpful to her. If she becomes the focus it means she is even better then expected or, heaven forbid, some of the others might be performing below expectations. I’d guess the former is more likely and she has a long way to show she should be mentioned in the same breath as Clark. I just hope she is good enough to both help us beat good teams and make her own name. She looked for real. Quick good decisions and quick accurate shot.
I know a division 2 team is not a great evaluation sample, but Geno did state he was not surprised, because that how she plays everyday in practice
In practice she is playing against players from the # 6 best team in the country and probably better than that.
I love she can score in multiple ways
 
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