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Loss is on Hurley:

husky429 said:
I didn't see any offensive adjustments at all.

He didn't bench his senior leaders when they made mistakes. That is coaching 101. Hold them accountable early.

The substitution patterns are hot garbage right now. Subbing 4-5 guys is okay vs Iona, but not any decent P6 team.

Our team looked frozen. Shocked by a big game on national TV. Including our coach.

Not enough fans are willing to put some of this on the coach. It happens. Hurley is very good--he isn't GREAT yet. The guy is only 45 or so. IMO He Mack, Oats and a couple others are the best young coaches in the game. It would be crazy to think he's infallible.
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The sub patterns are a big problem it's almost right there with giving the four year guards carte blanche. We have two great players and we aren't really drawing up anything for them.
 
Thirty Three said:
Yup, we had a nice lead (8 or 10 points) and Hurley pretty quickly put four starters on the bench (everyone but Carlton) and Indiana commenced to take us to the woodshed. We never recovered. It gave them confidence and momentum, and took us completely out of our game and the great start we had. I don’t get it at all.
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If the subs play well the starters get rest and we wear down opponents. The subs have played poorly two games in a row which is to be expected because of their inexperience.

Good to see you 33. Sad day learning we lost one of the good posters.
 
BNich said:
Isn't every win and loss tied to the coach?
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If you're a good coach, absolutely. Haven't seen Hurley's presser yet. Mack took ownership for the loss tonight.

Imo the best coaches always take ownership and keep the criticism of players in the locker room.

Unlike jimmy b. Not sure where Hurley falls yet.
 
husky429 said:
If you're a good coach, absolutely. Haven't seen Hurley's presser yet. Mack took ownership for the loss tonight.

Imo the best coaches always take ownership and keep the criticism of players in the locker room.

Unlike jimmy b. Not sure where Hurley falls yet.
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Hurley is saying it, it's what we all know but unless he holds the two biggest culprits accountable during these games it won't change.

Dom Amore on Twitter: "“Probably 25 different ways we could have won that game but we reverted back to playing in a way that won’t allow us to beat good teams.” Dan Hurley" / Twitter
 
superjohn said:
Hurley is saying it, it's what we all know but unless he holds the two biggest culprits accountable during these games it won't change.

Dom Amore on Twitter: "“Probably 25 different ways we could have won that game but we reverted back to playing in a way that won’t allow us to beat good teams.” Dan Hurley" / Twitter
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just because he says it all the time, doesn't make it not true. it's always about February huskies anyway.
 
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Letsgohuskies11 said:
outside taking a timeout when Indiana was making the comeback, i'm not sure what else he could of done. Gaffney, boutknight, and Adams gave nothing tonight. He went with his most senior guards and they didnt get it done.
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None of them would have been as selfish as Vital was in the last 10 seconds and neither of them would have handed the ball off to the other team bc they could all handle the ball better the Vital. It’s true. Sad. But true
 
Did anyone else have a problem with this...my dad kept harping on it, and it may sum up the title of thread.

We were up 9-10 points early, and then all of a sudden there's 4 bench players in the game with Carlton. We lose big Mo, and then the whole game.
 
I didn’t have a big issue with that because Hurley wants to play a lot of guys and for the most part it’s been working for us. I had a bigger issue with him not calling a TO to stop the IU momentum.
 
Hurley should have eased guys in...no need to pull the starting 5 (minus Josh) after going up big. We were going nuts in 211, then it was so meh.

Regardless, Danny is allowed to have hiccups...and it is in Danny I trust.
 
I'm guessing Danny is subbing for next year - CV and AG will be gone and he wants Gaff, Adams and Bouk, next year's guards, to have a chance to play together. Maybe also, not learn bad habits from the seniors.

It's not a problem as long as they can coach those guys up fast.
 
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One thing I would put on Hurley is at 54-51, minute or so left, we call a TO. Out of the TO we got another bad contested Polley 3. They looked like they had no plan, can't have that coming out of a timeout.
 
dtrumpet said:
One thing I would put on Hurley is at 54-51, minute or so left, we call a TO. Out of the TO we got another bad contested Polley 3. They looked like they had no plan, can't have that coming out of a timeout.
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Fairly certain he drew up a Polley three, we all wanted it. It's on Tyler not to force it.
 
The first turnover didn't produce anything for UConn. Really baffled why Hurley went back to that well 21 more times.
 
Towney007 said:
I mean probably had too long of a leash on Vital but Bouknight stood around looking terrified and Adams was indescribably awful tonight. Not sure what direction you go in from there.
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He was in New York last night?
 
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All the young guys had really short leashes meantime CV and Ag could do anything and keep playing.

Our only offensive set appears to be a weave looking for a cra crack in the defense to penetrate. When that doesn't happen we do one of two things. Shoot a 3 (if we don't turn it over first) or go in to Carlton, who will then turn it over most likely or go up soft and hope that his baby hook goes in.

Why did Akok get pulled after starting with 3 blocks and that 3? It was like he was playing too well so Hurley pulled him? Akok was our best player, he needed more PT for us to stand a chance to win imo.

Hurley still seems to lack the ability to make in game adjustments to me honestly. We will see if that changes over time but he kept letting our players do the same thing over and over and over expecting different results.

The players play the game and definitely deserve blame, our guards were especially horrible. But Hurley was probably just as bad. Frustrating because as bad as we played that's one of those games you can still win.
 
XLCenterFan said:
Did anyone else have a problem with this...my dad kept harping on it, and it may sum up the title of thread.

We were up 9-10 points early, and then all of a sudden there's 4 bench players in the game with Carlton. We lose big Mo, and then the whole game.
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Exactly.... we were rolling and then there was a timeout and everyone came out including polley and akok who both had just had big plays. Changed the entire game complexion.
 
superjohn said:
The sub patterns are a big problem it's almost right there with giving the four year guards carte blanche. We have two great players and we aren't really drawing up anything for them.
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The out of bounds lob to Akok was pretty sweet. Agreed on your other points.
 
selles said:
He didn't do the hockey substitutions tonight. I think the problem was that Bouk was frozen by a big game on national TV, and that caused all the rest of the issues. I don't think you can blame Hurley for that, and I don't think that will be an issue for Bouk that continues beyond this game.
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Gilbert started the game running the show pretty well and distributing the ball, when he went out for basically 10 minutes And vital ran the show the offense went completely stagnant. I thought his mistake was not bringing Gilbert back in at that point. He would have at least calmed things down in my opinion and stemmed the tide of that run
 
XLCenterFan said:
Did anyone else have a problem with this...my dad kept harping on it, and it may sum up the title of thread.

We were up 9-10 points early, and then all of a sudden there's 4 bench players in the game with Carlton. We lose big Mo, and then the whole game.
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Sadly, or not, I fell asleep right around the time that he made that first hockey line substitution. I had been up since 4:30 a.m. yesterday and I had a few drinks, so I knew there was a good chance I would not make it though the game The last thing I remember thinking is "Why is he messing with this now?" Next thing I knew it was 1:30 a.m. and I had to check my ESPN app for the score. I recorded the game and I will now delete it without watching the rest, but yes I think the wholesale substitution patterns are unwise when we are up by a good margin.

My Dad used to be a poker player back in the day, and he always used to say "Don't kill the singing bird" if he kept the same game in dealer's choice when it was his turn to deal and had just won the hand. That's what pops in my head when I see those mass substitutions when things are going well.
 
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CTBasketball said:
We have 22 turnovers and we’re talking about how Dan Hurley is to blame?

God you guys kill me. We just sucked tonight.
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There is enough blame to go around. But half of those turnovers come from 2 players that got more time than anything else. The lack of ability to adjust or try something different was lacking imo.
 
No, not all on Hurley. Again comes down to shot selection, basketball smarts, situational percentages and hero ball. This team has improved no doubt but at key times, they still lack the ability to know what type of shot and when to take it. There were chances at the end to swing the game back in their direction but didn’t take the high % shot and well, you see what happens. Simply can’t get away with those decisions against good teams as Hurley has said. Yes the buck stops there, but ultimately you need guards to execute the correct shot selection at key moments in order to win. Having said that, this program is trending in the right direction. This team will make the tourney. Go UC
 
husky429 said:
The substitution patterns are hot garbage right now. Subbing 4-5 guys is okay vs Iona, but not any decent P6 team.
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Excellent point, but it wasn't okay against Iona either. He did it in both the first and second halves, and each time Iona closed the gap instantly.
 
Thirty Three said:
Yup, we had a nice lead (8 or 10 points) and Hurley pretty quickly put four starters on the bench (everyone but Carlton) and Indiana commenced to take us to the woodshed. We never recovered. It gave them confidence and momentum, and took us completely out of our game and the great start we had. I don’t get it at all.
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During that run, AG had 2 fouls. Akok had 2 fouls. Carlton was in. That accounts for 3 of our 5 starters. Vital was the playing poorly. And Polley doesn't give us much offensively if he's not spotting up for 3.

Hurley had to play other guys out of necessity because of the fouls.

If I were to make one change, it would have been having Adams running point while AG was on the bench. Vital can't play point and run an offense. His decision making is questionable and he's sloppy with the ball.

Gaffney hasn't shown anything yet to show he can play at this level. I understand he is coming off a bad ankle injury early in the year. But I noticed Gaffney frequently dribbles with his back or side to his defender in the half court. He's not even comfortable handling the ball while facing his opponent to see the floor. He looks scared to make a mistake.

I think Hurley's substitution patterns can improve, but last night it was on the players for turning the ball over constantly and when AG went out, no one was capable of running offense.
 
UChusky916 said:
During that run, AG had 2 fouls. Akok had 2 fouls. Carlton was in. That accounts for 3 of our 5 starters. Vital was the playing poorly. And Polley doesn't give us much offensively if he's not spotting up for 3.

Hurley had to play other guys out of necessity because of the fouls.

If I were to make one change, it would have been having Adams running point while AG was on the bench. Vital can't play point and run an offense. His decision making is questionable and he's sloppy with the ball.

Gaffney hasn't shown anything yet to show he can play at this level. I understand he is coming off a bad ankle injury early in the year. But I noticed Gaffney frequently dribbles with his back or side to his defender in the half court. He's not even comfortable handling the ball while facing his opponent to see the floor. He looks scared to make a mistake.

I think Hurley's substitution patterns can improve, but last night it was on the players for turning the ball over constantly and when AG went out, no one was capable of running offense.
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It's amazing that people manage to miss the foul trouble aspect of this.
 
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