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OT: Lopez / Lomachenko. Who You Got?

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Chin Diesel

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I'll go Lomachenko TKO in 9.
 
I'd give it Lopez 115-113 or 126-112.

Loma took off the first six rounds.
 
Great fight. I'd go draw or Lopez 115 113
 
Wow those cards were wiiide.
No problem with Lopez getting the decision tho. Loma definitely didn't know what to do with him
 
I don't understand those scores....
 
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Chin was right....Loma took way too long to size up Lopez. He got out pointed and gave away way too many rounds. Lopez proved he is more than just a power puncher going toe to toe with Loma for 12 rounds.
 
I knew Lopez was good but I underrated his boxing ability a little. Draw or Lopez 115-113.
 
Very good fight. Respect to both boxers. But the crappy scoring ( a 119-109 card) leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Not the way to grow the sport
 
Good fight. Loma looked off for the first 6 rounds. Maybe the long layoff coupled with a fear of Lopez`s power kept him from coming forward. Once he came forward he was taking it to Lopez and looked like we could see him stop Lopez but lopez was tough and skilled. I have no problem with the decision but the scorecards were a joke!
 
Awful by Lomo, he looked like a dude who hadn't fought in 14 months. Don't take the fight if you're not going to throw punches for over half the fight. Fighters make fights and Lomo wants to be a professor/scientist until there's a few rounds left. Throw your hands...
 
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I believe Lopez got in Loma’s head. Typically a cool customer, Loma was emotional at the weigh-in and uncharacteristically got in the face of Lopez with a smirk. Not that he fought overly emotional, but it’s hard to win when it takes six rounds to start making reads. Loma simply took too long to get going, and Lopez showed championship mettle in the 12th round. I had the bout 115 - 113 Lopez.
 
Loma looked rusty and out of sorts. Lopez impressed me knew he was very good but thought he might be too young to deal with Loma. Think Loma underestimated him and then it took half the fight to find his rhythm.

absolutely no way you can score that fight 119-109 disgusting should be suspended or some action taken for that scoring. Loma unquestionably won 4 rounds. Thought it was a draw or slight Lopez victory
 
I can see the range in scoring. Loma was so inactive for much of the fight. Loma won somewhere between 2 and 5 rounds. I’d say closer to 5, but I can see that some of the rounds that I’d give to Loma were very close.

Loma has a strategy to sacrifice early rounds and then come on strong late. It just didn’t work.
 
11th - Loma
9th - toss up
8th and 10th close but lean Loma
 
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huskyinfl said:
You can't reward a champion for doing what Loma did those first 6.
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How many times did UConn put up a stinker in the 1st half to gut one out (2004 final four *cough cough*)

Not saying Loma won cause at best it was a draw but 2nd half of fight he started looking like himself and win in my opinion 5 of last 6 rounds
 
methodology said:
How many times did UConn put up a stinker in the 1st half to gut one out (2004 final four *cough cough*)

Not saying Loma won cause at best it was a draw but 2nd half of fight he started looking like himself and win in my opinion 5 of last 6 rounds
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It was possible to win with his strategy, but with the advantage of hindsight he needed to start pouring it on by the 4th at the latest.
 
the fight was much, much closer than the judges had it. Loma gave away too many early rounds sizing Lopez up, and I can agree with the win for Lopez. I really wanted Loma to knock out the very cocky Lopez!
 
methodology said:
How many times did UConn put up a stinker in the 1st half to gut one out (2004 final four *cough cough*)

Not saying Loma won cause at best it was a draw but 2nd half of fight he started looking like himself and win in my opinion 5 of last 6 rounds
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There was no stinker - which game was our plan to not shoot or score during the first half and try to do all of the scoring in the second half?

It's an odd strategy because boxing is so crooked and the margin for error. Why not try to steal a few early rounds? This was a mega fight. Hopefully this starts a rebirth of some interesting fighters coming up. It's been stale.
 
I thought there were only two rounds that were toss ups 2 and 7...I leaned towards Loma in both but could definitely see somebody reasonably giving them to Lopez. Lopez won 1, 3-6, and 12 without question. Loma won 8-11 without question, I thought he had Lopez on the ropes in 11 for a little but give it to Lopez for not giving in.

Lopez game plan was perfect, and he really did everything he told everybody he would do going in to the fight, other than knock him out which I never thought was a possibility. He knew Loma was rusty coming off surgery and the long layoff so he pressured early and often to take rounds and prevent Loma from creating those angles he does so masterfully. Lopez really impressed me with his boxing ability. He has shown he is a great puncher and moves very well, but I did not realize he was that technical. His footwork and distance were top notch all fight. Amazing to do that against the likes of Loma who has put those technical clinics on every match since turning pro.

Lopez should move up weight class, he has nothing else to prove at 135 and at his age has the frame to ultimately be 140-147 comfortably for a long time. Loma should stay at lightweight, not sure he can move back down at his age and how many fights he has had.
 
ColchVEGAS said:
I thought there were only two rounds that were toss ups 2 and 7...I leaned towards Loma in both but could definitely see somebody reasonably giving them to Lopez. Lopez won 1, 3-6, and 12 without question. Loma won 8-11 without question, I thought he had Lopez on the ropes in 11 for a little but give it to Lopez for not giving in.

Lopez game plan was perfect, and he really did everything he told everybody he would do going in to the fight, other than knock him out which I never thought was a possibility. He knew Loma was rusty coming off surgery and the long layoff so he pressured early and often to take rounds and prevent Loma from creating those angles he does so masterfully. Lopez really impressed me with his boxing ability. He has shown he is a great puncher and moves very well, but I did not realize he was that technical. His footwork and distance were top notch all fight. Amazing to do that against the likes of Loma who has put those technical clinics on every match since turning pro.

Lopez should move up weight class, he has nothing else to prove at 135 and at his age has the frame to ultimately be 140-147 comfortably for a long time. Loma should stay at lightweight, not sure he can move back down at his age and how many fights he has had.
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Loma really hasn't looked like an all time great against 135ers (like he did at 130). I think he's a little small for the weight class. Especially the young guys who make 135 are not small guys and Loma is a small guy. After watching last night, I wouldn't like Loma in a rematch, even under the assumption he was rusty last night. There was a noticable size difference there. Lopez just looked too big and strong for Loma to do what he wanted.
 
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BoukofJames said:
I believe Lopez got in Loma’s head. Typically a cool customer, Loma was emotional at the weigh-in and uncharacteristically got in the face of Lopez with a smirk. Not that he fought overly emotional, but it’s hard to win when it takes six rounds to start making reads. Loma simply took too long to get going, and Lopez showed championship mettle in the 12th round. I had the bout 115 - 113 Lopez.
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my exact score.
 
Surprised by the score, but not the decision. They'll both stand to get richer from the Lopez victory. Great fight, looking forward to the rematch.
 
Rewatched the fight this morning since I stopped scoring after round 7 watching live and I scored it 8-4 Lopez, you really have to bend over backwards or basically just wanted Loma not to lose to score that fight a draw. As for Loma's "plan", he usually takes a couple of rounds to get his reads but it was obvious that he was bothered by Lopez's speed, reflexes, power, and skills. Once he fell behind by so many rounds he had no choice but to open up and take the risks if he wanted to win. Credit to him that his chin and durability held up because Lopez was sending alot of heat back even in the rounds that Loma won later on. Going into the fight I was confused by folks who thought this was gonna be some Floyd/Canelo type moment, Loma didn't look like an alien against Linares, Pedraza, and Campbell and Lopez is several steps ahead of those guys. Lopez was always gonna be in this fight with what he brings to the table.
 
aceboon said:
Rewatched the fight this morning since I stopped scoring after round 7 watching live and I scored it 8-4 Lopez, you really have to bend over backwards or basically just wanted Loma not to lose to score that fight a draw. As for Loma's "plan", he usually takes a couple of rounds to get his reads but it was obvious that he was bothered by Lopez's speed, reflexes, power, and skills. Once he fell behind by so many rounds he had no choice but to open up and take the risks if he wanted to win. Credit to him that his chin and durability held up because Lopez was sending alot of heat back even in the rounds that Loma won later on. Going into the fight I was confused by folks who thought this was gonna be some Floyd/Canelo type moment, Loma didn't look like an alien against Linares, Pedraza, and Campbell and Lopez is several steps ahead of those guys. Lopez was always gonna be in this fight with what he brings to the table.
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8-4 seems about right to me. After the 10th I was thinking Loma better win 11 and 12 to get the win. I thought Lopez really only needed to win 1 of the last 2 rounds to win it and it seemed to me like 11 was could go either way with me leaning towards Lopez and the 12th was definitely Lopez.
 
methodology said:
www.espn.com

Manager: Vasiliy Lomachenko battled shoulder pain in lead-up to Teofimo Lopez fight

Vasiliy Lomachenko's shoulder pain was enough for his father and trainer, Anatoly, to want him to withdraw from the fight, but according to manager Egis Klimas, the former lightweight champion said he would retire if forced to do so.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

This sheds light on Lomas uncharacteristic showing. I respect him for gutting it out
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I never thought he was looking 100% recovered from the 2018 surgery. I know after my minor shoulder surgery I did not feel "right" for at least a year following. Given I am not nearly as tough as a man who gets punched for a living, but Loma has looked less like himself ever since the Linares fight.
 
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