Looking ahead to South Carolina | The Boneyard

Looking ahead to South Carolina

Dokey

Dokey

Joined
Feb 7, 2019
Messages
2,052
Reaction Score
8,313
Is something we probably shouldn’t do but watching tonight’s one point victory at home by South Carolina over Mississippi State, the main problem is the one who got away, Boston. Without her South Carolina is still very good but more than beatable. Mississippi State was still able to drive to basket but rebound battles off missed layups once under the basket usually went to Boston. I don’t see Liv winning many of those battles but I do see her in foul trouble, as Mississippi State’s big was. Three point shooting and cutting to basket will be needed.
 
Boston is a handful. If Connecticut can get her in foul trouble and ONO has a big game, UCONN wins. If Boston is Boston and outplays ONO, I think SC wins.
 
Boston is a generational player. I'd say she is the best big in wcbb now, and she's only a freshman. She's very efficient & dominant on both ends. She can lead the team in scoring and rebounding if thats the strategy. Bottom line - a game changer.
 
BostonBay said:
Boston is a generational player. I'd say she is the best big in wcbb now, and she's only a freshman. She's very efficient & dominant on both ends. She can lead the team in scoring and rebounding if thats the strategy. Bottom line - a game changer.
Expand ...
Can you imagine what she’ll be like as a senior? Coaches are going to have to redesign strategies to deal with bigs like her—if there are others. I found myself thinking about Gulliver’s travels to Lilliput.
 
.-.
BostonBay said:
Boston is a generational player. I'd say she is the best big in wcbb now, and she's only a freshman. She's very efficient & dominant on both ends. She can lead the team in scoring and rebounding if thats the strategy. Bottom line - a game changer.
Expand ...
1579579122556.gif
 
Boston was very good, but, Miss. St should have won that game. They were ahead by six with five minutes to go and were still ahead eith 2 minutes to go until the ball was stolen from a player (who should have not been allowed to touch it), which resulted in a break away lay-up and Miss. St missed a number of shots subsequently. Also Miss. St only made three 3 point shots.

The decider will be if UConn can, unlike against Baylor, make 3's.
 
BostonBay said:
Boston is a generational player. I'd say she is the best big in wcbb now, and she's only a freshman. She's very efficient & dominant on both ends. She can lead the team in scoring and rebounding if thats the strategy. Bottom line - a game changer.
Expand ...

Generational might be a stretch....and Cox is solidly better than her right now IMO. But she's excellent.
 
bballnut90 said:
Generational might be a stretch....and Cox is solidly better than her right now IMO. But she's excellent.
Expand ...
It is too bad that she and Cox could not have gone at each other in the South Carolina win. Experience no doubt gives Cox the edge but...
 
.-.
It’s a bit soon for me to start worrying about the Gamecocks. With that said, I will acknowledge that Boston has been important to their success. But I think focusing on Boston obscures the most important player for SC this season.

As a 4-yr starter, Ty Harris is playing at an AA level. She is in a class with Ionescu & Crystal as one of the very best pg’s in the nation. The matchup between Harris and Crystal will go a long way towards determining the outcome of the February game between SC & UConn.
 
South Carolina drove at Miss State's three bigs the entire first half...............I think they drew 7-8 fouls during that time................I envision the same strategy will be employed against ONO...............
 
oldude said:
It’s a bit soon for me to start worrying about the Gamecocks. With that said, I will acknowledge that Boston has been important to their success. But I think focusing on Boston obscures the most important player for SC this season.

As a 4-yr starter, Ty Harris is playing at an AA level. She is in a class with Ionescu & Crystal as one of the very best pg’s in the nation. The matchup between Harris and Crystal will go a long way towards determining the outcome of the February game between SC & UConn.
Expand ...

I agree on Harris but the minute Boston left the court Miss State took over the game.................she needs to be in the game for them to win against top competition..........
 
Charliebball said:
South Carolina drove at Miss State's three bigs the entire first half...............I think they drew 7-8 fouls during that time................I envision the same strategy will be employed against ONO...............
Expand ...
When Vic brought in all those tall trees this season, many felt that MS St would be unbeatable. In watching them play last night, I was really surprised at just how ineffective they were. For the entire game Carter, Morris & Taylor combined for a grand total of 6 pts, 6 rbs & 9 fouls. On her own, Boston had 21 pts, 12 rbs and only 3 fouls.
 
South Carolina is a fine team, and Boston is very good and will only get better. But Ms State had them down and Bibby gave up the ball and things went awry. Bibby was ineffective during the entire game, but I guess she was Vic's best option. Ms State had five fouls midway through the third period, and South Carolina had none. The Gamecocks took full advantage of that situation too. It was a fun game to watch, and good fodder for the BY to feast upon. For sure playing them at their place, and with their crowd will be a big challenge.
 
Harris is still at South Carolina? It feels like she has been there forever because she played against Stewie & Friends who have been gone for four years already.
 
.-.
hoopsfan22 said:
Harris is still at South Carolina? It feels like she has been there forever because she played against Stewie & Friends who have been gone for four years already.
Expand ...
Harris never played against Stewie and the big 3. She was in the HS class of 2016. When you’ve been a starter from your 1st game as a freshman, it certainly feels like you’ve been there forever.

Harris has truly benefited from playing for Dawn. She was ranked 28th by Hoopgurlz, the 10th best pg in her class. After 4 years at SC, I would rank her even with Crystal, behind only Ionescu at the pg spot.
 
Obviously you can’t make an exact parallel. In the 1991 NCAA men’s tournament, a team without a dominant center beat a team with THE dominant center by 15 points. The dominant center was dominant, scoring 27 points and a lot of rebounds. The winning team had a strategy to make sure nobody else hurt them. The dominant center:Shaquille ONeal. The winning team:UConn with Chris Smith and Rod Sellers at center who was no Shaquille.
 
oldude said:
When Vic brought in all those tall trees this season, many felt that MS St would be unbeatable. In watching them play last night, I was really surprised at just how ineffective they were. For the entire game Carter, Morris & Taylor combined for a grand total of 6 pts, 6 rbs & 9 fouls. On her own, Boston had 21 pts, 12 rbs and only 3 fouls.
Expand ...

Clearly not on Boston's level but they come with 15 fouls to give.............our lone post ONO has but 5..................:(
 
Dokey said:
It is too bad that she and Cox could not have gone at each other in the South Carolina win. Experience no doubt gives Cox the edge but...
Expand ...

Would've loved to see them go head to head. Wouldn't be surprised if we do in the F4 or title game.
 
oldude said:
When Vic brought in all those tall trees this season, many felt that MS St would be unbeatable. In watching them play last night, I was really surprised at just how ineffective they were. For the entire game Carter, Morris & Taylor combined for a grand total of 6 pts, 6 rbs & 9 fouls. On her own, Boston had 21 pts, 12 rbs and only 3 fouls.
Expand ...

The Mississippi State bigs will get better under Vic. McCowan was underwhelming until her junior year when she turned into an absolute beast. Taylor will probably be much more effective next year if she can stay healthy, she's extremely long and a good shot blocker. Carter is much improved from a year ago too.
 
.-.
Dokey said:
Is something we probably shouldn’t do but watching tonight’s one point victory at home by South Carolina over Mississippi State, the main problem is the one who got away, Boston. Without her South Carolina is still very good but more than beatable. Mississippi State was still able to drive to basket but rebound battles off missed layups once under the basket usually went to Boston. I don’t see Liv winning many of those battles but I do see her in foul trouble, as Mississippi State’s big was. Three point shooting and cutting to basket will be needed.
Expand ...
Excellent game! Both teams were sharp and aggressive. Great contributions from their freshmen on both sides. I couldn't believe the dribble drives by Mississippi State. I think both SC and MS will be hard to beat, but if the buckets are falling we can do it!!
 
Last edited:
The Miss St/South Carolina game would be totally different on a different night. People seem to think these girls all play the same, game in and game out. I would bet that South Carolina would win 8 out of 10....The UCONN game will not be a repeat of this game anymore than the Baylor games. If someone gets hot...or if the team has a let down or foul trouble...just wait until the game. It should be a good one. I think South Carolina is still going through the growing pains of so many freshmen...so anything can happen. These teams will all be different come NCAA tournament time.
 
So sick of the word “generational” .....I’m not discounting her talent but before crowning her the “GOAT’ lets see how her career plays out. She’s played barely 1/2 a season, any coronations are premature at this point IMO. Let’s focus on the Tennessee game.
 
We can't get them all but the future looks bright. With the height we have coming in for the next few years rebounding, which has been our primary problem for the past few years since Stewie left.
 
bballnut90 said:
The Mississippi State bigs will get better under Vic. McCowan was underwhelming until her junior year when she turned into an absolute beast. Taylor will probably be much more effective next year if she can stay healthy, she's extremely long and a good shot blocker. Carter is much improved from a year ago too.
Expand ...
Carter certainly has room to get better, but I wouldn’t necessarily bet on Morris or Taylor getting a whole lot better. Morris is already a junior who’s been around. She’s just an extra big body as far as I can tell. Taylor is also in her 3rd season of college basketball as a RS-soph. I had heard a lot about her so I was somewhat surprised at her lack of athleticism. Finally, whatever Bigs MS St has next year, they will likely have to yield PT to Sidney Cooks who is currently redshirted.
 
oldude said:
Carter certainly has room to get better, but I wouldn’t necessarily bet on Morris or Taylor getting a whole lot better. Morris is already a junior who’s been around. She’s just an extra big body as far as I can tell. Taylor is also in her 3rd season of college basketball as a RS-soph. I had heard a lot about her so I was somewhat surprised at her lack of athleticism. Finally, whatever Bigs MS St has next year, they will likely have to yield PT to Sidney Cooks who is currently redshirted.
Expand ...

Taylor has only played one season and is coming off an ankle injury and still doesn't look 100% physically or conditioning wise. If she gets back to freshman form she'll be a difference maker. 7-0 wing span and was 3rd in the SEC in blocks as a freshman, plus shot 60% from the floor.

Morris I'm not too high on improving a lot. Guessing she loses minutes with Taylor's improvement and Cooks entering the lineup.
 
.-.
You must log in or register to reply here.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,512
Messages
4,579,721
Members
10,488
Latest member
Azerion


Top Bottom