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Liza Karlen?

So I guess now it's time to start a "Let's build false hope for Maryam Dauda" thread?
The well is pretty dry now. Karlen might have been the last of the one year potential upgrades over Ayanna and or Ice, which I think she would have been. There still are one year insurance types, players that would only play if injuries took out several big candidates, but it is difficult now to improve on the bench bigs we currently have without taking a player for two or more years, which has its own problem with limiting 2025 recruits.

It would probably take a player of a least Dauda's or Barkers level to make that even potentially worthwhile because of two years vs one, and Barker supposedly hates us, so the fat lady may not be singing yet, but i think she is starting to warm up.
 
I didn’t know Watson is questionable next season. All the more reason for ND to secure Karlen, who will start alongside Westbeld, while Koval figures things out.
Key for Notre Dame is they will now be 7 deep with a guard, Bransford and a forward center, Karlen/Koval coming off the bench.

Other than South Carolina that's pretty much what the top teams played with this year. With good health ND now has an excellent team to put on the floor - Miles,Hidalgo, Citron, Westbeld, Karlen/Koval. That's 4 All-America caliber players plus one all big east. In a perfect world they would try to pick up a center, but this is already pretty good.
 
She will start for ND. She's not going to be a backup. She isn't 6-4. Which South Carolina phobia has made a lot of fans believe is absolute necessity. A better rebounder and scorer than either the departed Marshall or the injured Watson. Plus 5 fouls while Koval ripens and Westbeld can play there too. It's a good pickup for them.
 
I don’t see Liza being a match for Ice, and certainly not for Jana if she ends up at C as some folks here are forecasting. But the rest of that lineup is formidable.
Agree. From what we saw last season, Liza Karlen will run rings around Brady and pretty much dominate that match up.
 
Agree. From what we saw last season, Liza Karlen will run rings around Brady and pretty much dominate that match up.
Evidently, you must have missed the Big East conference semifinals. With Aaliyah out with a broken nose, Ice played all 40 minutes, holding Karlen to 5/18 shooting and 12 pts, scoring 10 pts herself on 3/8 shooting, while also making the All-Tournament team.

I’m not sure who was running rings around whom, but once Ice was forced into the lineup at the end of the season, she played exceptionally well.
 
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Not only did ND pick up Karlan but now they have Liatu King from Pitt who was an all ACC player..ND is going to be awfully tough!
 
An article in the Hartford Courant listed three players still in the portal that the Huskies might be interested in. One was Liza Karlen. I think that Geno would be reluctant to take a player from another Big East team. He has a long history, and respect, for the Big East conference and it's players and fellow coaches. Which is why I feel that he might not make an offer to Liza. I'm curious to hear what other Boneyarders think.
I think you are right. I heard no rumors that UCONN was interested in Morrow and we knew she was a top post player.
 
Absolutely. Not doing that would be anti-everything Geno is about.
I would think that most of us played sports, some may have even coached as well. All great coaches do a year end review if you will with each player , in all sports , and even some good coaches too. Bad coaches don’t communicate with their players and simply don’t care about playing time, effort, passion and excellence. Geno has an open door policy and welcomes discussion via the student athlete. I’m sure he is tough, but fair. We all know playing time is won in practice, 5 play at a time and the rest watch and learn.
 
Agree. From what we saw last season, Liza Karlen will run rings around Brady and pretty much dominate that match up.
I’m confused here, you agree , but say the opposite. Karlen is insurance… you think her ACC numbers will match her Big East numbers, I doubt it.
 
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ND has had a good response to the letter K! Karlen, King, and KK Bransford returned from the portal.
Branford is still gonna be the odd woman out if everyone is healthy. I expect to see a frowning face on the ND bench.
 
Branford is still gonna be the odd woman out if everyone is healthy. I expect to see a frowning face on the ND bench.
Not sure about that. From what I understand, King, while similarly sized to Bransford, is more of a forward.

That means Bransford is ND's top backup guard. She'll get solid minutes. Not starter minutes, but solid.
 
Jana is 6-4 (at least), no?

Ice did okay against Karlen in the BET (5-18 and 0-4).

Karlen is a nice player but at 6-2 and more of a finesse player she isn't really what next season's UConn team needs.

Not sure she addresses ND's issues in the lane either but that's their problem.
To the extent that ND's issues in the lane involved competing with ultra-tall centers like Beers, that rests on Koval's shoulders.

Before yesterday, ND had exactly two posts (I think Prosper could play the 4, but that's another story). So at least Karlen gives another productive veteran option. We'll see where she lands on the Sheperd-Dodson-Ebo transfer forward continuum. At the very least she is an upgrade skill-wise on Watson, though a downgrade size-wise.

ND loves nothing more than a white finesse power forward standing approximately 6'2 to 6'3 (e.g. Brunelle, M. Westbeld, Boley).
 
The other two players who have been discussed are Juniors. Liza has just one season of availability. Which scenario is more likely to push others on the team into the portal?
I agree that the GS cause less issues because they are one and gone. The issue I have is UConn has players that should be better than her already on the roster so why add her. She is a quality person and good player but she isn't going to be difference maker to the level that makes it worth the risk, even if the risk is low. That's how I look at it anyway.
 
To the extent that ND's issues in the lane involved competing with ultra-tall centers like Beers, that rests on Koval's shoulders.

Before yesterday, ND had exactly two posts (I think Prosper could play the 4, but that's another story). So at least Karlen gives another productive veteran option. We'll see where she lands on the Sheperd-Dodson-Ebo transfer forward continuum. At the very least she is an upgrade skill-wise on Watson, though a downgrade size-wise.

ND loves nothing more than a white finesse power forward standing approximately 6'2 to 6'3 (e.g. Brunelle, M. Westbeld, Boley).
Brianna Turner and Maya Dodson makes your point nonsense. Besides Boley was a 3 point shooter and only stayed a year because she underperformed so she went to Oregon to underperform.
 
Next season, I believe you'll be watching the Huskies battle the Irish (and Ms. Karlen) in South Bend. ND went to your place this season.
Still, I get the sentiment ;)
That’s going to be a tough game!
 
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Brianna Turner and Maya Dodson makes your point nonsense. Besides Boley was a 3 point shooter and only stayed a year because she underperformed so she went to Oregon to underperform.
I consider Dodson and Turner centers, but regardless I wasn't saying that's the only type of forward ND recruits, just that they have an affinity for that archetype.

By the way, Leah Macy sorta adds to my point, no?
 
I agree that the GS cause less issues because they are one and gone. The issue I have is UConn has players that should be better than her already on the roster so why add her. She is a quality person and good player but she isn't going to be difference maker to the level that makes it worth the risk, even if the risk is low. That's how I look at it anyway.
Much more competition for playing time at UCONN.
 

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