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pj said:
Crazy that they left off Drummond. Especially with the inclusion of Bynum.
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Think because Drummond reclassified so late they decided not to rank him. Otherwise he’d be #1 because he was the best player in the country at the time.

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Andre Drummond, St. Thomas More , Center

Andre Drummond is a 6-10, 255-pound Center BK from Oakdale, CT. Drummond has a 247Sports rating of 100, making him a 5-star prospect. He has committed to...
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Supes said:
What separated Flagg as a high schooler is his insane defense. He looks like a young Anthony Davis out there. There's a reason he's a consensus #1.

Super happy to have Liam but Flagg is really an unbelievable player and deserving of his national ranking.
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Defense is the great equalizer. Anybody with decent athleticism can play elite D if they invest the time, focus and effort. Most don’t because it requires enormous mental energy and enormous physical energy. Danny gets his guys bought in to work on D. Liam can turn into Flagg level D.
 
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giddyup said:
Defense is the great equalizer. Anybody with decent athleticism can play elite D if they invest the time, focus and effort. Most don’t because it requires enormous mental energy and enormous physical energy. Danny gets his guys bought in to work on D. Liam can turn into Flagg level D.
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There’s a lot to like with Liam. But he’s not going to be Flaggs level defensively. Cooper is an elite defensive prospect, he’s on a different level.
 
Fatroony5 said:
There’s a lot to like with Liam. But he’s not going to be Flaggs level defensively. Cooper is an elite defensive prospect, he’s on a different level.
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More to D than blocking shots, but Flagg is a true rim protector from what I've seen. Great hops, and very quick too.
 
knicksin7 said:
If we extended this back to 1990, what would this list look like? The McDonalds AAs guys were: Donyell, Rip, Khalid, Taliek, Scott Hazelton (not sure how this happened), Charlie and Rudy...then Kemba?
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Hazelton made the 2000 game because the game was in Boston and they needed some local talent. It was him and UNC bound Neil Fingleton (later transfered to Holy Cross).
 
uconnfan68 said:
More to D than blocking shots, but Flagg is a true rim protector from what I've seen. Great hops, and very quick too.
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Yeah definitely, but Flagg provides so much defensive versatility and elite rim protection. Those are the type of players that are super valuable and win awards defensively in the NBA. Everyone wants that and McNeeley doesn’t provide that type of upside. And that’s fine; Hurley will get him to play at a plus on the defensive end and that’s all they really need given everything else he does on the offensive end.
 
knicksin7 said:
If we extended this back to 1990, what would this list look like? The McDonalds AAs guys were: Donyell, Rip, Khalid, Taliek, Scott Hazelton (not sure how this happened), Charlie and Rudy...then Kemba?
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Ray and Oriaki as well.
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
Think because Drummond reclassified so late they decided not to rank him. Otherwise he’d be #1 because he was the best player in the country at the time.

247sports.com

Andre Drummond, St. Thomas More , Center

Andre Drummond is a 6-10, 255-pound Center BK from Oakdale, CT. Drummond has a 247Sports rating of 100, making him a 5-star prospect. He has committed to...
247sports.com 247sports.com
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IIRC Anthony Davis was higher ranked.
 
UC0NN said:
Sorry Karaban is not going 1st round under any circumstances, likely 40s best case scenario. Love the kid tho, he's a true champion. The NBA wants athleticism, size, elite shooting.
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Depends on how he shoots in workouts. NBA wants shooting and skill.

Take a look at European affect out there. Sports is moving back towards skill based over athleticism.

Karaban is taken in the 30s. But if his shooting is elite in workouts. He will move up.

Karaban truth r sm
That Guy said:
The NBA is very quickly moving away from valuing athleticism all that highly. When you have guys like Luka and Jokic out there dominating it shows that you don't have to have a shred of athletic ability at all so long as you're tall enough and skilled enough. I do agree though that Alex is not a 1st rounder. He's got average size for the 3 spot and even though he's a great shooter, I definitely wouldn't consider him elite quite yet.
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We Gotta start looking at who is winning, Shooting skill, smarts. Ball movement.

Karaban is a stretch 4 off the bench. The athleticism doesn’t have to be great, just has to be good enough if the skill level is there.

Biggest difference in modern nba is sacrificing the classic PF to go with a more skilled and less big, less athletic stretch 4.

Think Jayson Tatum plays the win 4-man and wing, while in old days it was Karl Malone.

The rugged Charles Oakley, Rodman, Dale Davis etc power forwards are obsolete.

Replaced by more mobile, more skilled, smaller players with skill.

Karaban will play like Sam Hauser plays. Also, Karaban’s smarts will help him play defense.

First off, he isn’t a bad athlete, 2, he is 6-8.
 
I don't believe the 247Sports ranks all time recruits well enough. 247 started in 2010 and before that ESPN and Scout.com were the top trusted sources. Rivals too I believe. I can see just by looking at what 247 has for All Time that they don't translate rankings from before 2010 correctly.

With that said landing a recruit like Liam is still a huge deal as a lifelong UConn fan. Calhoun would land a guy like that every few years, Hurley now 2 years in a row. Overall Hurley is having more success recruiting, now that UConn is getting national recognition.
 
knicksin7 said:
If we extended this back to 1990, what would this list look like? The McDonalds AAs guys were: Donyell, Rip, Khalid, Taliek, Scott Hazelton (not sure how this happened), Charlie and Rudy...then Kemba?
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Going solely off memory... Donyell was borderline top 10, Rip, Khalid, and Taliek were in the teens, and Hazelton was in the 30s/40s. If I remember right, Hazelton was chosen a McDAA in part because the game was in Boston that year.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Think because Drummond reclassified so late they decided not to rank him. Otherwise he’d be #1 because he was the best player in the country at the time.

247sports.com

Andre Drummond, St. Thomas More , Center

Andre Drummond is a 6-10, 255-pound Center BK from Oakdale, CT. Drummond has a 247Sports rating of 100, making him a 5-star prospect. He has committed to...
247sports.com 247sports.com
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If you mean for the 2013 class that is certainly possible. He was #2 on ESPN's rankings for the 2012, FWIW. Anthony Davis was #1 for the 2012 class.
 
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Ricker said:
Davis is listed as #1 for 2011 not 2013. I think Drummond was #1 in 2012 until he committed to us in Aug. I'm sure @Chief00 can give us the accurate scoop.
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you are correct. I was 1 year too far ahead for both of them. Those are the years they played at UConn and Kentucky, but players are part of the recruiting class of the year before their freshman year at the school.
 
TheShot1990 said:
Could McNeeley be the blueprint for future stars? Wait until the second half of your senior year so you can see which programs have a stable coaching staff, national championship cache, and an awareness of the chemistry of the team you are about to join and where you might fit in. Not to mention you have more time to solidify your NIL options.
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Future stars with some common sense and maturity. Remember they are 17-18 year olds; there will always be a large group of kids who grab for the shiny object/big payday/attention.
 
Ricker said:
Davis is listed as #1 for 2011 not 2013. I think Drummond was #1 in 2012 until he committed to us in Aug. I'm sure @Chief00 can give us the accurate scoop.
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When a guy commits in August for college in September, a year earlier than expected, you can throw the class rankings out the window since he was being rated in what turned out to be the wrong class.
 
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Rico444 said:
IIRC Anthony Davis was higher ranked.
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Davis was ranked 1 in the class Drummond transferred into. But I believe Drummond was ranked 1 in the class he transferred out of.

Davis is and was a generational talent. Anyone who watched Kentucky and UConn in 2012 and thought Drummond was his equal would have been crazy. But if Drummond were born 10-15 years earlier, he'd be a first ballot HOFer. Despite massive minutes reduction in the last few years, he's still #33 all time in rebounds, and if he could stay on the floor would end somewhere in the Top 10 all time.
 
NLI is signed. He's officially a Husky.

"Liam is one of the best players in high school basketball, and we are tremendously excited to add him to our UConn family," head coach Dan Hurley said. "He is blessed with elite skill and positional size, along with the championship pedigree that we so value at Connecticut. Liam has the potential to be a star here."

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UConn Inks Five-Star Liam McNeeley To NLI - University of Connecticut Athletics

STORRS – The back-to-back national champion UConn men's basketball team has announced the signing of five-star Liam McNeeley to a National Letter of Intent. ...
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