Lauren Cox to Visit on First Night

[UConnCat]

Ann Strother won 2 national championships in 2003 and 2004. Wouldn't want to shortchange Annie.

Carry on.

 

[easttexastrash]

Ann Strother won 2 national championships in 2003 and 2004. Wouldn't want to shortchange Annie.

Carry on.

I loved Strother. I watched her many times while she was in high school as her school was a suburb of Denver.

 

[sarals24]

Ann Strother won an NC in 2003 with DT. Famous (to UCONN fans) lip reading right after they beat TN for the NC:

Ann: "I can't believe it!"
DT: "Believe it!"

Pretty sure Annie won two NCs...2003 and 2004. In fact, I think the only class that didn't win a NC since the 2000 class was the class that entered the year after Diana left, so 2008?

 

[easttexastrash]

Ann Strother won an NC in 2003 with DT. Famous (to UCONN fans) lip reading right after they beat TN for the NC:

Ann: "I can't believe it!"
DT: "Believe it!"

I had her down for none and you had her down for 1.
Looks like we both failed on this one.

 

[calpedaler]

You are fast. You got that one out before I even had time to make the correction. Well done.

Yup, now if you could tell where Stoors is located that would be awesome.

 

[easttexastrash]

Pretty sure Annie won two NCs...2003 and 2004. In fact, I think the only class that didn't win a NC since the 2000 class was the class that entered the year after Diana left, so 2008?

Yet FAR from failures.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

So what happens if you go to UCONN and you don't win a championship. Are you considered a failure?

We're gonna have to get back to you on that when we have a big enough sample size to form an opinion.

 

[Bonpland]

So you consider Ann Strother a failure? These are young women who need to be viewed as more than title producers. I haven't considered a single Baylor player a loser. I appreciate the effort they put forth to represent the university.

Ann was a part of two National Championships. Uconn, despite how much we might hope, will not win every NC. But a girl choosing Storrs is more likely to be part of one than not. Maya and Tina got two. Kelly got two. Sue got two, and this group and Dianna have gotten three.

Ann Strother is anything but a loser, and every top ranked HS player who chose Uconn in the last twenty years has left here with at least one. No other program can come close to making that claim.

Lauren may choose Baylor (is the Baptist connection important to her?) and if she does I'll wish her well. But if she thinks that NC's are more important than cheering on her P-5 football team, then we should be hearing from her soon.

 

[sarals24]

If you make note I said "add to her desire." There are many factors that players consider when deciding on a college. Watch a big time football game (not AAC, obviously) and look at the camaraderie it creates. The feeling you get in that environment is hard to match.

Sure, it might "add to her desire". I went to a Big 12 school. I'm also from Texas, like Lauren. I get the whole football thing. And if that is what tips the scales in Baylor's favor, then good for you guys, and you should thank Art Briles. Personally, if I'm Lauren, I would look at the development of players like Dolson and Stewie and compare that to the development of Griner. And compare Final Fours and National Championships. But that's just what I'd do, maybe she will compare football teams.

 

[Gus Mahler]

One more quick side point on Strother: Her offensive contribution in the 'o3 title game was immense, overshadowed only by You Know Who. Her free throws at the end put UCONN in the driver's seat for good.

Not bad for a freshman.

 

[sarals24]

Yet FAR from failures.

Well, they "failed" to win a national championship. But again, most UConn women players don't have to even worry about that!

 

[billnaples]

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If all that mattered to recruits was winning a NC then UCONN would get the top 3 or 4 ranked players in every class. Remember Diamond DeShields. And when she decided to leave UNC did she transfer to UCONN.

Best recollection was that UConn did recruit, among others, Deshields. As I recall a major factor for Diamond was the scholarship offers that were made to some number (I forget how many, may have been 3) of Diamonds close friends. At the time UConn was not interested in any of those women and were never going to offer them scholarships. After her freshman year Deshields made the choice to leave UNC and after some weeks of speculation she was offered a deal at Tenn. where not so coincidentally another very close friend of hers was going to sign. To the best of my information UConn was no longer interested in Deshields when she made that choice. And if Geno wasn't interested there simply was not going to be an offer.

 

[Gus Mahler]

Sure, it might "add to her desire". I went to a Big 12 school. I'm also from Texas, like Lauren. I get the whole football thing. And if that is what tips the scales in Baylor's favor, then good for you guys, and you should thank Art Briles. Personally, if I'm Lauren, I would look at the development of players like Dolson and Stewie and compare that to the development of Griner. And compare Final Fours and National Championships. But that's just what I'd do, maybe she will compare football teams.

Good point. The development of the bigs is a major selling point for UCONN. You've got Geno, CD, and Marisa with a great track record. Also, Geno moves them around, low and high (bigs, not CD and Marisa). Also, there will be lots of opportunities for playing time at the 4/5.

 

[sarals24]

Yep. Imagine how much more deadly Griner would have been with a 15 foot shot like Stef's.

 

[Gus Mahler]

I'm sure those kids do feel that they have failed, in a way. They probably go there with the goal to win a national championship, and if they don't, then they have failed to achieve that goal.

Luckily, there are only a small handful of classes that haven't won a NC

As it happens, I was thinking of this earlier tonight. I can only think of two since the first championship: '99 and '08 (college).

 

[DaddyChoc]

I didn't get in on this when it first may have started but it seems like there are a lot of people beating a dead horse here! Since I have come on board well over a few years ago I haven't witnessed a lot of criticism of posters grammar to any great extent. Why has this now seemingly taken on a life of it's own? That may be worse than the original criticism. Why can't we just let it go and focus on the purpose of this site which is to share basketball interests and comments, right???? I came here today focused on hearing some news on what type of visit Ms. Cox had and instead hear this punctuality garbage and criticism of same! I know I'm certainly not alone in solely being interested in the point of view of fellow posters but this has grown into a very unwelcome off topic for me!

people are now scared to "right" because they may now be wrong...

 

[easttexastrash]

I think that if Cox leaves UCONN feeling like it is the place for her that she will cancel her Baylor visit She has been around the Baylor program for some time now and probably doesn't need another visit to know if that is where she wants to be. She has some excellent programs to choose from.

 

[easttexastrash]

Yep. Imagine how much more deadly Griner would have been with a 15 foot shot like Stef's.

Yeah, maybe she could have been somebody.

 

[easttexastrash]

Best recollection was that UConn did recruit, among others, Deshields. As I recall a major factor for Diamond was the scholarship offers that were made to some number (I forget how many, may have been 3) of Diamonds close friends. At the time UConn was not interested in any of those women and were never going to offer them scholarships. After her freshman year Deshields made the choice to leave UNC and after some weeks of speculation she was offered a deal at Tenn. where not so coincidentally another very close friend of hers was going to sign. To the best of my information UConn was no longer interested in Deshields when she made that choice. And if Geno wasn't interested there simply was not going to be an offer.

That was my entire point. Sometimes there are other factors in a recruit's mind other than national championships.

Baylor has only had 6 classes since 2002 that left without a title so it is not out of the realm of possibility that the number 1 recruit could help Baylor win another title.

 

[DaddyChoc]

Permit two thoughts about Lauren's pending decision. First, about the dozens of speculators who see her "leaning" one way or another (a thought I have posted before):

"Those who don't know, talk; those who know, don't talk."​

Second, my opinion of Geno's seating plan for special guests at First Night. Using poker parlance, He "shoved his whole stack in" when he seated Lauren with her possible future teammates: Chrystal, Molly, Kyla, and Andra. And had them photographed together. A master stroke. No wonder he is such a great closer!

spell check, you should know how to spell the players names before posting

 

[DaddyChoc]

 

[j66kicker]

I am hoping that the prospect of her college experience including watching one of the top football teams in the nation adds to her desire to go to Baylor. She has attended quite a few Baylor games and has seemed to thoroughly enjoy that experience. She gets to watcht he 2nd ranked team in the nation on homecoming weekend. I hope that can compete with First Night.

She visits Baylor last, which is an advantage for you guys. She has said she wants to go to a big football school, which is an advantage for all the finalists except UCONN. And to me she appears to be a lifelong Baylor fan anyway. She may have just been doing her due diligence, going through the motions with the other visits.

So, that said, I give UCONN only a 50/50 chance (That little "due diligence" opening is all UCONN needs to work the Geno magic, if she really belongs in Storrs. We'll see...)

 

[UConnCat]

I fully expect Lauren and her family will take their final visit to Baylor. That's been the plan and with one more visit there doesn't seem to be a good reason to veer from it. Plus, anonymous "recruiting experts" says she favors ND over Baylor so I'm sure she'll want to take another look at Baylor. Geno hoped for an opportunity to give Lauren an up-close look at his program and university and I'm sure he and his staff did that very well. She now knows what UConn offers.

Kudos to Lauren and her family for how they've handled this entire process. They've seemingly done it the right way.

I'm ready for the season.

 

[easttexastrash]

Yup, now if you could tell where Stoors is located that would be awesome.

Your only addition to this conversation is posting about minutia.

 

[Kibitzer]

spell check, you should know how to spell the players names before posting

Good catch! You're right. I should know how to spell the players' names before posting,

Touche!

 

[easttexastrash]

I fully expect Lauren and her family will take their final visit to Baylor. That's been the plan and with one more visit there doesn't seem to be a good reason to veer from it. Plus, anonymous "recruiting experts" says she favors ND over Baylor so I'm sure she'll want to take another look at Baylor. Geno hoped for an opportunity to give Lauren an up-close look at his program and university and I'm sure he and his staff did that very well. She now knows what UConn offers.

Kudos to Lauren and her family for how they've handled this entire process. They've seemingly done it the right way.

I'm ready for the season.

I would not be surprised at all to see her land at ND. That would really hurt after losing Turner to Muffet.

 

[Kibitzer]

Your only addition to this conversation is posting about minutia.

ETT, for some time (and 6,000+ posts) you have been made to feel free to enlighten us about the virtues of Baylor athletics. More recently, many of us were enriched - even captivated - by your explanation of the difficulties that Type I diabetics like you (and Ms Cox) endure constantly.

But now it appears that you feel compelled to rudely critique Boneyarders. ETT, I assure you we can do this on our board with no help from you. Please refrain.

 

[DaddyChoc]

ETT, for some time (and 6,000+ posts) you have been made to feel free to enlighten us about the virtues of Baylor athletics. More recently, many of us were enriched - even captivated - by your explanation of the difficulties that Type I diabetics like you (and Ms Cox) endure constantly.

But now it appears that you feel compelled to rudely critique Boneyarders. ETT, I assure you we can do this on our board with no help from you. Please refrain.

I "kinda" agree... ETT you're sort of an enemy when it pertains to Cox, I would kindly say be cool on this topic

 

[hjoerring]

hjoerring - interesting post, and I agree with a lot. One 'factual' error, or at least misstatement - the European experience with language and facility for it is mostly based on proximity and intermingling of languages - if for example each New England state had a different native language (I know, some people would say they do!) and had been involved in a millennium of wars of conquest and occupation, New Englanders would probably have a much greater capacity and facility for 'foreign' languages. That would be comparable to the situation of Europe.

Historically, Latin was the language of western religion, and French was the language of international diplomacy so every educated person in Europe could speak/read those two languages as well as their native tongue - as English has taken over as the international language of choice and the native tongue has become the language of religion, it has become less important for English speaking populations to pursue foreign language proficiency. The British educated population however has a higher proficiency then the US population because of proximity and greater interaction. The same is true for the Canadian population because of the English/French mixture. (And the same is true certainly in southeastern Florida and Texas/southwestern US because of the English/Spanish mixture.

Thanks for your kind notes; however, I have a few disclaimers. One, it was German and not French, although it is a question of the period. Perhaps you were thnking of the emergence of the Bourgeoise. Proximity is tricky. Yes, Danish, Swedish and Norw. are similarly written, but the spoken languages are very different. There are also many regional dialects in the above countries that have given rise to standard danish/swedish, etc. And you know of course that the Americas is more then the USA- so proximity hasn't helped there (also with the presence of Spansk. speaking people) Also, the Brits are worst then the Americans in the learning of a new language, hopeless I would say. Of course I hinted at the relation bet power and language in my first post. That is coming back to haunt the English speakers as the world changes. In Scandinavia, all kids starting in public schools (pre-gymnasium/hs) must be proficient in Eng and Ger, and all Gymnasium/HS graduating students must sit for both a written and oral exam. in 3 major languages. At the Univ here you risk being asked to read materials in these languages. During my time at Uconn (and elsewhere- including the so-called elite schools) I was taken back by the many students who had 3 years of Spans/Fren and were unable to comm or read anything. That was something that stood out- but the profs were not all that diff. I'm not a language person, but it is now commonplace that the learning and speaking of a language is a complex matter. The grammar that you guys are obsessed with tricky: too many students are leaving the public schools with sloppy writing skills. That is a societal problem. I have read about Univ students who are leaving with a degree and cannot put their thoughts on paper without help. The U.S will have to correct this real fast. My daughter who was an xchange student in China (1st yr gym student), came back and was surprised about how advanced her fellow Chinese students were across the board. And were fellow Danish students were not idiots. In fact, we hosted a Chinese students here and his English was very good- even if it were Edwardian.

 

[Icebear]

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If all that mattered to recruits was winning a NC then UCONN would get the top 3 or 4 ranked players in every class. No, because Geno wouldn't necessarily offer all. Fit and finish as a team member is very important to Geno and staff and the teammates. Remember Diamond DeShields. And when she decided to leave UNC did she transfer to UCONN. You are assuming she was offered at the time of transfer.

If Lauren doesn't choose UCONN does that mean she doesn't want to win a NC? No, but if she wants to win multiple NCs her odds are vastly better at UCONN than at a school that got only one while having Griner on the team. Maybe she chooses Baylor because it is a top basketball program that she would like to lead to a NC, is in a Big 5 conference, is close enough for her parents and siblings to drive in to watch every home game in person, is a Baptist university with strong religious ideas, has a great football team that adds immeasurable excitement to campus life. The rest of this is very true.