Lagow back in the fold...

[Husky25]

This should never have been allowed by this online community of fans, to drag out this far, the way it did. There were only five Carl's, huskynation's, whaler's, and sportsart's, and huskyfandan's that tried everything to get this thing to go away and called BS.

That's not exactly fair...Some didn't participate or engage the presumed poster. Many (myself included) posted on the NLI and the BvLvC thread, but once it was reasonably known that said poster was who he was, did not engage him.

Now that he is presumably about to sign, I'm happy that UConn has increased depth at QB (just as I'm happy that Bennett improves depth on the line), but there are five other QBs on this team. Lets not hand an untested true freshman the reigns at 3:31.

 

[The Viking]

This should never have been allowed by this online community of fans, to drag out this far, the way it did. There were only five Carl's, huskynation's, whaler's, and sportsart's, and huskyfandan's that tried everything to get this thing to go away and called BS.

Next time, if there is a next time, there should be five thousand Carl's, huskynation's, whaler's, and sportsart's, and dan's calling BS and telling a poster to cut the and take the game somewhere else. This whole thing has shown that we are indeed a brand new football program at the level we're at.

It's got nothing to do with being respectful to a poster, claiming to be someone, on an anonymous message board. Regardless of whether or not identities are true or not.

It's got everythign to do with understanding what football recruiting is about, and what national signing day really means, and what an NLI really means for a division 1 college football player and being respectful of everyone that actually does sign it.

The poster by the end was even trying to get fans to stop, and focus on the class, and I'm grateful finally just went away. I'm not happy about the whole thing, because there was a major distraction to the kids that actually did sign on that day, but I'm hopeful that it will be a good learning experience for the fan base.

Again, I look forward to the signed letter.

Signing day, is the day that high school football players get to be celebrated for what they've done, and what they have the opportunity to do in the future. It's the time for college football program fans, to recognize the new players they have coming into the family, and recognize what they've done to get there.

it's their day to shine - the signee's, and only the signee's, because the majority of them, aren't going to be seen in any other significant way by fans, for a couple years thereafter.

I hope that all the fans here, remember that in the future.

This may be the most over-the-top hogwash I've ever read in my life.
Look, I'm sure some people would like to hop in that new time machine once UConn finishes building it and change some things that were written.
But forgive me and apparently others for not knowing that all the recruits were refreshing their computers and pounding anti-depressents when the Signing Day thread turned more and more into a Lagow thread. That somehow we have robbed them of the most important day of their lives and that they (or perhaps more pathetically "we") will never get those special moments back.
I mean come on man. Is there someone on this site who every year prints off the Signing Day thread, place it in a very nice leatherbound notebook and mails it to all the families of the kids who signed here?
And even if this magically happened, isn't it enough that these kids had their own threads that went on for days sometimes after they verbally committed to the school?
Look, you said a few days ago that the Lagow's 15 minutes were up. Actually, the 16th minute is about to start at 3:30. Maybe your pennance for being wrong should be to avoid all Lagow threads for the next 24 hours.

 

[Carl Spackler]

I was completely wrong to suggest that the 15 minutes were up. Correct. I've always said that a backup QB position is the most popular position on the team. If celebrity was desired, celebrity definitely has been achieved.

But if you think that national signing day, isnt' what I said it is, that it isn't as important as I said it is, for the families, for the players, for the true college football fans of a program, I don't know what to tell you, except that this whole thing continues to make me very disappointed in our fan base.

and yes, you are right, nothing written around here actually matters at all.

 

[sdhusky]

This should never have been allowed by this online community of fans, to drag out this far, the way it did. There were only five Carl's, huskynation's, whaler's, and sportsart's, and huskyfandan's that tried everything to get this thing to go away and called BS.

Next time, if there is a next time, there should be five thousand Carl's, huskynation's, whaler's, and sportsart's, and dan's calling BS and telling a poster to cut the and take the game somewhere else. This whole thing has shown that we are indeed a brand new football program at the level we're at.

It's got nothing to do with being respectful to a poster, claiming to be someone, on an anonymous message board. Regardless of whether or not identities are true or not.

It's got everythign to do with understanding what football recruiting is about, and what national signing day really means, and what an NLI really means for a division 1 college football player and being respectful of everyone that actually does sign it.

The poster by the end was even trying to get fans to stop, and focus on the class, and I'm grateful finally just went away. I'm not happy about the whole thing, because there was a major distraction to the kids that actually did sign on that day, but I'm hopeful that it will be a good learning experience for the fan base.

Again, I look forward to the signed letter.

Signing day, is the day that high school football players get to be celebrated for what they've done, and what they have the opportunity to do in the future. It's the time for college football program fans, to recognize the new players they have coming into the family, and recognize what they've done to get there.

it's their day to shine - the signee's, and only the signee's, because the majority of them, aren't going to be seen in any other significant way by fans, for a couple years thereafter.

I hope that all the fans here, remember that in the future.

Who was the only person directly threatened with banning over this incident?

Oh, yeah. It was you. The admins had to specifically call out you to shut up.

 

[sdhusky]

Fishy to Carl:

"STFU. Not one more word.

You're too duck*ing stupid to be dispensing advice. "

 

[ktuck911]

Yes. Someone else will be gone. But they may have been gone already.

Looking fwd to seeing the official Spring Roster next month... And even after that we'll see more roster movement (attrition)

 

[businesslawyer]

Where were we on scholly count? Does this come at the expense of someone else? Just curious.

We can get him into this years recruiting class, but we are well over the 85 limit for the start of camp, so yes, one more veteran will now have to be talked into leaving the program

 

[businesslawyer]

This may be the most over-the-top hogwash I've ever read in my life..

Or, for Carl, today''s thought

 

[businesslawyer]

I think this is good news. If he is in camp in August, QB's will be fighting for places on the depth chart. Better man win, lesser men sit or move on. It's a business.

Of course, whichever of this year's QBs Do not get to play, we can look forward to an unnamed poster telling us those who lose the job were not given fair chances. But it is what it is.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

We can get him into this years recruiting class, but we are well over the 85 limit for the start of camp, so yes, one more veteran will now have to be talked into leaving the program

I don't think we will have to talk anyone into leaving the program. Has there ever been a year when we didn't lose at least one player to academics/transfer/suspension/injury/giving up/etc between January and August? I doubt it. There is just a natural attrition that you need to plan for.

 

[businesslawyer]

I don't think we will have to talk anyone into leaving the program. Has there ever been a year when we didn't lose at least one player to academics/transfer/suspension/injury/giving up/etc between January and August? I doubt it. There is just a natural attrition that you need to plan for.

We are not talking about one player. We are talking about at least five, which is more than we are likely to lose without helping people out the door.

 

[Husky68]

Maybe this coming year's QB group will help put some real competition into the position. We did start a red shirt junior walk on a couple years ago with back ups of a real freshman and a red shirt freshman who is a pro style QB only in one beat writers eyes.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

We are not talking about one player. We are talking about at least five, which is more than we are likely to lose without helping people out the door.

If all of the signing class actually comes to campus in August. But between the natural attrition on our current roster, and a a recruit or two gray-shirting, I think we will be fine.

 

[SAMCRO]

This should never have been allowed by this online community of fans, to drag out this far, the way it did. There were only five Carl's, huskynation's, whaler's, and sportsart's, and huskyfandan's that tried everything to get this thing to go away and called BS.

Next time, if there is a next time, there should be five thousand Carl's, huskynation's, whaler's, and sportsart's, and dan's calling BS and telling a poster to cut the and take the game somewhere else. This whole thing has shown that we are indeed a brand new football program at the level we're at.

It's got nothing to do with being respectful to a poster, claiming to be someone, on an anonymous message board. Regardless of whether or not identities are true or not.

It's got everythign to do with understanding what football recruiting is about, and what national signing day really means, and what an NLI really means for a division 1 college football player and being respectful of everyone that actually does sign it.

The poster by the end was even trying to get fans to stop, and focus on the class, and I'm grateful finally just went away. I'm not happy about the whole thing, because there was a major distraction to the kids that actually did sign on that day, but I'm hopeful that it will be a good learning experience for the fan base.

Again, I look forward to the signed letter.

Signing day, is the day that high school football players get to be celebrated for what they've done, and what they have the opportunity to do in the future. It's the time for college football program fans, to recognize the new players they have coming into the family, and recognize what they've done to get there.

it's their day to shine - the signee's, and only the signee's, because the majority of them, aren't going to be seen in any other significant way by fans, for a couple years thereafter.

I hope that all the fans here, remember that in the future.

Stop it. Just stop it.

 

[metsfan2323]

This might be the best collection of young arms on one team since Seaver, Koosman, Ryan, Gentry, and McGraw. Are we going with a 5 man rotation or 6?

Hopefully one of these guys is a program changer like Flutie or RG3. We have more QB talent then the Jets.

 

[UCFBfan]

Didn't Lagow's dad mention possibly flying Richard up every weekend to get acclimated to UConn and possibly hook up with some people up here. I know he can't participate in practices or anything of the sort but I wonder if they still plan on doing this? It would be beneficial for him or anyone.

I'm very excited that he decided to sign. I was one of the doubters as this dragged on that he was coming here. Glad to see he'll make the QB position even stronger and deeper

Welcome to the UConn Family!!!!

 

[Alum86]

Welcome to HuskyNation Richard and fam! Enjoy UConn life and The courses offered. Watch out for Bio 107 if it's still offered. I got a D and was damn glad to get it. LMFAO

 

[uconnbill]

Without a doubt the best quarterback depth UConn has ever had in all my years of watching them.

 

[The Funster]

Welcome to the Dog Pound. Be careful, don't step on the whining !

 

[businesslawyer]

Without a doubt the best quarterback depth UConn has ever had in all my years of watching them.

Until someone or someone's deserve otherwise, the best depth chart we had at QB was Dan Orlovsky not missing a snap for three years

 

[BNich]

Didn't Lagow's dad mention possibly flying Richard up every weekend to get acclimated to UConn and possibly hook up with some people up here. I know he can't participate in practices or anything of the sort but I wonder if they still plan on doing this? It would be beneficial for him or anyone.

I'm very excited that he decided to sign. I was one of the doubters as this dragged on that he was coming here. Glad to see he'll make the QB position even stronger and deeper

Welcome to the UConn Family!!!!

If Tim Boyle really wanted to he could drive 45 minutes everyday and do this no problem. Same scenario, much easier. But yes I do recall his father posting the details of what you speak of on here.

 

[uconnbill]

Until someone or someone's deserve otherwise, the best depth chart we had at QB was Dan Orlovsky not missing a snap for three years

I agree he was the best by far that I agree with. I am just saying UConn finally has depth just in case. Something even when Dan O was here UConn didn't have.

 

[junglehusky]

Welcome to HuskyNation Richard and fam! Enjoy UConn life and The courses offered. Watch out for Bio 107 if it's still offered. I got a D and was damn glad to get it. LMFAO

Heh. Chem 127/128 for me. Some universities are trying to improve the way these intro science courses are taught instead of having them be "weed-out" courses, I hope UConn is on board with that initiative!

 

[Jarhead_1775]

Heh. Chem 127/128 for me. Some universities are trying to improve the way these intro science courses are taught instead of having them be "weed-out" courses, I hope UConn is on board with that initiative!

Organic chem 1+2 for me. Total nightmare. Ridiculous when most have to take it 2 or 3 times just to pass.

 

[UConnDan97]

Heh. Chem 127/128 for me. Some universities are trying to improve the way these intro science courses are taught instead of having them be "weed-out" courses, I hope UConn is on board with that initiative!

Absolutely this!!!

Chem127 was arguably the only thing standing in my way of becoming a chemist, and it nearly sent me packing. I ended up re-taking the equivalent of Chem127 at Manchester Community College that summer in order to improve my understanding (even though I passed at UConn....barely!). It was under the instruction of a guy named Tom Zownir (fantastic teacher!), and it was made extremely simple. The way it should have been in the first place. Once I got over that hurdle, I never looked back. But as you alluded to, this used to be the way that UConn controlled the population of all the pre-med and pharmacy majors. I hope times are much better now than in the 90's....

 

[Jarhead_1775]

Absolutely this!!!

Chem127 was arguably the only thing standing in my way of becoming a chemist, and it nearly sent me packing. I ended up re-taking the equivalent of Chem127 at Manchester Community College that summer in order to improve my understanding (even though I passed at UConn....barely!). It was under the instruction of a guy named Tom Zownir (fantastic teacher!), and it was made extremely simple. The way it should have been in the first place. Once I got over that hurdle, I never looked back. But as you alluded to, this used to be the way that UConn controlled the population of all the pre-med and pharmacy majors. I hope times are much better now than in the 90's....

Nope. Maybe worse. They really do seem to try to cut down on the science majors. I did the same thing! I took 127 with zownir, too! Yeah great guy. Big baseball guy.

 

[Catsailor]

Chem 127 was fairly incomprehensible, literally, both my lecturer and lab guy had such thick accents it was like listening to someone with marbles in their mouth. Total nightmare.
Comparative vertebrate anatomy was no walk in the park either, still remember the old bone in the burlap bag BS on the practical.

 

[UConnDan97]

Chem 127 was fairly incomprehensible, literally, both my lecturer and lab guy had such thick accents it was like listening to someone with marbles in their mouth. Total nightmare.
Comparative vertebrate anatomy was no walk in the park either, still remember the old bone in the burlap bag BS on the practical.

You bring up what was (and apparently still is) one of the biggest problems with chemistry at large universities; TA's and their language barrier. It seems to be part of their stipend that they need to teach courses, but without a mastery of the English language, having them teach the undergraduate students is performing a great disservice to the paying undergrad students. At the very least, the TA's that teach the courses should not be first or second year PhD students, but rather, third and fourth year students that have had a couple of years of speaking English under their belts and some more maturity in order to become effective teachers.

Teaching is a trade, not a pastime. It's not "filler", nor should it be treated as such to kids who are paying over $1,800 per 3 credit course. And it's not just UConn, it's everywhere unfortunately...

 

[junglehusky]

You bring up what was (and apparently still is) one of the biggest problems with chemistry at large universities; TA's and their language barrier. It seems to be part of their stipend that they need to teach courses, but without a mastery of the English language, having them teach the undergraduate students is performing a great disservice to the paying undergrad students. At the very least, the TA's that teach the courses should not be first or second year PhD students, but rather, third and fourth year students that have had a couple of years of speaking English under their belts and some more maturity in order to become effective teachers.

Teaching is a trade, not a pastime. It's not "filler", nor should it be treated as such to kids who are paying over $1,800 per 3 credit course. And it's not just UConn, it's everywhere unfortunately...

Good points. Universities are paying more attention or lip service (depending on your perspective and on the university) to this issue, and need to do better both from the point of verbal language proficiency and teaching skills. Having said that, I feel like a substantial percentage of the freshmen complaining "I can't understand a word my TA says" are kids who never ventured far from their suburban enclave and never had to communicate with people with accents before. I found with most of my TA's after a week or two I got used to the differences, with minimal effort on my part to train my ear. Only a few were not fluent enough and this was where the difficulty in communication was. People say "You're in America, speak English" and maybe that's fair, maybe not. But let's say it is and a grad student has spent years learning English well enough to communicate fluently, and a kid in the class doesn't even try to get past the different accent. Well, I think you oughta at least try to meet them halfway. That's the world we live in nowadays.

 

[UConnDan97]

Good points. Universities are paying more attention or lip service (depending on your perspective and on the university) to this issue, and need to do better both from the point of verbal language proficiency and teaching skills. Having said that, I feel like a substantial percentage of the freshmen complaining "I can't understand a word my TA says" are kids who never ventured far from their suburban enclave and never had to communicate with people with accents before. I found with most of my TA's after a week or two I got used to the differences, with minimal effort on my part to train my ear. Only a few were not fluent enough and this was where the difficulty in communication was. People say "You're in America, speak English" and maybe that's fair, maybe not. But let's say it is and a grad student has spent years learning English well enough to communicate fluently, and a kid in the class doesn't even try to get past the different accent. Well, I think you oughta at least try to meet them halfway. That's the world we live in nowadays.

I understand what you are saying about some students being lazy. However, I can tell you that the TA's I had in my freshman and sophomore years in chemistry were BRUTAL when it came to the English language. I specifically remember a Chinese TA who struggled to piece five words of English together, and a Russian TA who's accent was so heavy and grammar was so poor that it made it near impossible to carry on without a "do it yourself" attitude. Keep in mind that I speak three languages and I am the son of immigrants, so I understand a "heavy accent." It also doesn't help that they are trying to teach Chemistry, which in and of itself, is another language altogether with its own symbols and rules.

I'll grant you that the fact there seem to be more people in the U.S. than any other country who only speak one language and who are intolerant of others who can't speak English well. However, the large universities have a lot of work to do when it comes to the use of foreign students teaching courses at an appropriate English level. The undergrads aren't there for free; they are all paying good money to be taught something...