Ladies At The “Big E”

[Puppy Love]

It is the term "lady huskies" and not calling them ladies that is the diference here.

The word to ‘ladies’ in reference to women in sports irritates me to no end. It is an antiquated term that implies social status and behavior. You’d never see a headline that says ‘Gentlemen at the Big E’. I know that much of this board consists of older males that don’t find gendered language disturbing, but as a woman who fought through years of inequality, it’s just something I can live without.

 

[mbr33ct]

I think @MSGRET is just trying to spoof this old dog.

You may be right, I didn't think @MSGRET was the spoofing type.

 

[AmeriConn]

No, it's not a height comparison but a facial comparison.

Sorry mbr33ct, I used the wrong quote.

 

[Ozimoto]

There was a day when using ladies in connection with our Huskies would bring censure. Have I missed the memo?

PS. Is that Saylor front left of the second group photo?

Yes it is.

 

[AmeriConn]

The word to ‘ladies’ in reference to women in sports irritates me to no end. It is an antiquated term that implies social status and behavior. You’d never see a headline that says ‘Gentlemen at the Big E’. I know that much of this board consists of older males that don’t find gendered language disturbing, but as a woman who fought through years of inequality, it’s just something I can live without.

If it were men, I would have said Men at the Big E. I didn’t want to say girls, so I used Ladies. Next time I’ll just say At The Big E. Jeesh!

 

[Ozimoto]

I live within walking distance of the Maryland State Fair grounds. The fair grounds are 143 years old and the fair has been held for 140 of those years. There was a break during WWII when the US army used the grounds. Their motto is "The Best Two Weeks of Summer." Can't argue that.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Did anyone notice that Paige is in both photos? She's EVERYWHERE!

 

[mbr33ct]

Did anyone notice that Paige is in both photos? She's EVERYWHERE!

It's spelled out in her NIL contract, she must be in every photo.

 

[Mdoggie]

It took awhile Mdoggie, but here is the height comparison.

And the obvious mix up of Saylor and Dorka done purposely.

I think @MSGRET is just trying to spoof this old dog.

right.

 

[MSGRET]

I think @MSGRET is just trying to spoof this old dog.

Would I do that to you @RockyMTblue2 ??

 

[Vowelguy]

The word to ‘ladies’ in reference to women in sports irritates me to no end. It is an antiquated term that implies social status and behavior. You’d never see a headline that says ‘Gentlemen at the Big E’. I know that much of this board consists of older males that don’t find gendered language disturbing, but as a woman who fought through years of inequality, it’s just something I can live without.

Amen sister!
(I used thumbs down on the og post specifically for that reason.)

 

[tomcat]

Boy, that does take me back. I grew up in Springfield, and went every year when I was a kid., I even remember a few years when they let school out so kids could go.
When I left the area, I went back for many, many consecutive years, just because. And when my daughter was growing up in eastern Mass. we would go every year. It because such a routine that after she moved to Minnesota, she came back one year and we went again, just because.

 

[Blakeon18]

Genuinely wondering about the word usage:

I often hear our players saying things like 'I love to play with these girls'.
I rarely hear them say 'I love to play with these women'.
That is also true ofttimes when I hear women in other sports talking about teammates [or competitors].




Does this irritate/offend you at all?
Irritate you a bit and wish they would stop it?
Irritate you a lot and really REALLY wish they would just STOP it?

Geno often refers to the players as 'guys'. Never heard him use the word 'gals'.
Is the use of 'gals' offensive?

Let's say I see someone hitting a long drive in a golf match and said to someone not looking at the TV
'that guy can really hit it'. My bet is that the non-viewer would assume I was talking about a man. True or not?
If I said 'that gal can really hit it' my bet is that the non-viewer would assume I was talking about a woman. True or not?
And the non-viewer would not be offended by the use of the word 'gal'...whether the non-viewer was a man or woman...true or not?

'Guys' are OK to describe men and women....your opinion?
'Gals' is not OK to describe women...your opinion?
'Gal'...singular...is OK to describe A woman....your opinion?

Uhhh...if one of our great moderators....[guy/gal/man/woman]...thinks this post is inappropriate I am sure a wise decision
will be made.

BTW: 'Ladies' 'Gentlemen'
I would be delighted if male athletes [in particular] would comport themselves as 'gentlemen' especially off court.
There are far too many headlines where that standard is not even close to being met.
We know that Pat just loved the term 'Lady Vols' and defended that usage throughout her days. Would not bother me a bit if the Tenn. adminstration decided that the men's teams there would henceforth be known as Gentlemen Vols.

[Tongue slightly in cheek there...know it ain't likely]



















BTW: 'Ladies' and 'Gentlemen' I would find it delightful if male athletes [in particular]
acted like 'gentlemen' ...especially off the playing fields... where way too often the headlines indicate some fall far short of that standard.

 

[AmeriConn]

Genuinely wondering about the word usage:

I often hear our players saying things like 'I love to play with these girls'.
I rarely hear them say 'I love to play with these women'.
That is also true ofttimes when I hear women in other sports talking about teammates [or competitors].




Does this irritate/offend you at all?
Irritate you a bit and wish they would stop it?
Irritate you a lot and really REALLY wish they would just STOP it?

Geno often refers to the players as 'guys'. Never heard him use the word 'gals'.
Is the use of 'gals' offensive?

Let's say I see someone hitting a long drive in a golf match and said to someone not looking at the TV
'that guy can really hit it'. My bet is that the non-viewer would assume I was talking about a man. True or not?
If I said 'that gal can really hit it' my bet is that the non-viewer would assume I was talking about a woman. True or not?
And the non-viewer would not be offended by the use of the word 'gal'...whether the non-viewer was a man or woman...true or not?

'Guys' are OK to describe men and women....your opinion?
'Gals' is not OK to describe women...your opinion?
'Gal'...singular...is OK to describe A woman....your opinion?

Uhhh...if one of our great moderators....[guy/gal/man/woman]...thinks this post is inappropriate I am sure a wise decision
will be made.

BTW: 'Ladies' 'Gentlemen'
I would be delighted if male athletes [in particular] would comport themselves as 'gentlemen' especially off court.
There are far too many headlines where that standard is not even close to being met.
We know that Pat just loved the term 'Lady Vols' and defended that usage throughout her days. Would not bother me a bit if the Tenn. adminstration decided that the men's teams there would henceforth be known as Gentlemen Vols.

[Tongue slightly in cheek there...know it ain't likely]



















BTW: 'Ladies' and 'Gentlemen' I would find it delightful if male athletes [in particular]
acted like 'gentlemen' ...especially off the playing fields... where way too often the headlines indicate some fall far short of that standard.

No matter what you say, someone out there will be offended. Ugh!

 

[Crossover]

Just the opposite, Dorka holding the husky stuffed dog, first photo in back.

Wait! The husky isn't real?

 

[Zarathustra]

No matter what you say, someone out there will be offended. Ugh!

I have been trying to transition to being a PLURALIST: allowing for many different opinions and points of view, including
language. It is not easy to find a middle ground. !1 Go Huskies!! Sincerely Z

 

[Puppy Love]

'Guys' are OK to describe men and women....your opinion?
'Gals' is not OK to describe women...your opinion?
'Gal'...singular...is OK to describe A woman....your opinion?

This is an interesting point..for me (woman over 50, retired from a long career, living in Connecticut), gal/gals is pejorative. I think it is because it’s reminiscent of the term ‘gal Friday’.
Your comments about golf were what really raised my eyebrows, though. How is it that women’s professional golf is the LPGA?

 

[BobbyJ]

This is an interesting point..for me (woman over 50, retired from a long career, living in Connecticut), gal/gals is pejorative. I think it is because it’s reminiscent of the term ‘gal Friday’.
Your comments about golf were what really raised my eyebrows, though. How is it that women’s professional golf is the LPGA?

Because the 13 women who founded the tour in 1950 chose that name. It seems they didn’t want to be confused with men’s golf. The men’s tour didn’t trademark the name PGA Tour until 1968 when they spun off from the PGA of America.

 

[psconn]

I have been trying to transition to being a PLURALIST: allowing for many different opinions and points of view, including
language. It is not easy to find a middle ground. !1 Go Huskies!! Sincerely Z

 

[Carnac]

Whaddaya think? Our ladies have been together for a whole month now. Do you think they have had enough time to form a tight bond? How long does it take for a team to bond?

Query: Has the Boneyard settled on the "appropriate" or acceptable word we can use to to refer to our team? i.e., girls, ladies or women?

 

[Carnac]

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Boy, what a "photo op" for any UConn fan lucky enough to be there when the team was there.

 

[AmeriConn]

Whaddaya think? Our ladies have been together for a whole month now. Do you think they have had enough time to form a tight bond? How long does it take for a team to bond?

Query: Has the Boneyard settled on the "appropriate" or acceptable word we can use to to refer to our team? i.e., girls, ladies or women?

Good question Carnac. I don't think any of us want to offend the team or anyone on The BY. They refer to themselves as girls, so why not girls.

 

[Goodgood]

Good question Carnac. I don't think any of us want to offend the team or anyone on The BY. They refer to themselves as girls, so why not girls.

Agree. When they get to the WNBA, they can be women and ladies for the rest of their lives....

 

[Carnac]

Good question Carnac. I don't think any of us want to offend the team or anyone on The BY. They refer to themselves as girls, so why not girls.

To me, because I respect and revere each and every member of this team, any word I use in reference to them (in my mind) is respectful when used in a comment. I hold each and every one of them in very high esteem. There are a few posters here that think the term "girls" or "ladies" is somehow disrespectful, and should not be used.

I'm NOT going to bite on THAT argument. I really don't care what others think about that. It's something I never would have thought about until someone raised the question. So, to avoid any argument, I will go along with the consensus term the yard settles on. It's not a big deal to me. In my opinion, we've got bigger fish to fry.

 

[PacoSwede]

ya know, men of any age (excepting when there are racial implications) can be referred to as 'boys' in a casual context and nobody (i hope) is going to give it a second thought. ... but if some women are offended by the use of the term 'girls,' so be it. ... (just curious -- when does a 'girl' no longer qualify as such?)

imo, 'guys' has long ago ceased being strictly masculine

and where does all this mess leave the 'non-binary' folks?

 

[D J B]

imo, 'guys' has long ago ceased being strictly masculine

Geno refers to the team as guys all the time.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Geno refers to the team as guys all the time.

Many years ago Geno explained his coaching philisophy, part of which was he did not look at his players as females, but ball players and he made demands upon them as ball players without regard to gender.

 

[phil sampieri]

The word to ‘ladies’ in reference to women in sports irritates me to no end. It is an antiquated term that implies social status and behavior. You’d never see a headline that says ‘Gentlemen at the Big E’. I know that much of this board consists of older males that don’t find gendered language disturbing, but as a woman who fought through years of inequality, it’s just something I can live without.

Old buggier has been calling them my girls and I only have a grandpas affection for each and every one of them. So sue me.

 

[Argonaut]

As a general rule of thumb, if you're not part of their inner-circle and know it's okay, don't call any adult woman "girl."

It's perfectly acceptable for an adult male to call his daughters, granddaughters, or other close, younger relatives "my girls," but that comes with having that level of familiarity. Same thing when women call their close friends their "girls."

Same rules apply when being careful about calling adult males, "boy," which can give off the nasty impression that you're talking down to someone (and, historically, calling and adult "boy" has racist roots).

And @Puppy Love is right that "ladies" is antiquated and largely just alludes to a type of behavior expected of women.

Call them women, young women, the team, Huskies, or by their names...

For the most part, context is everything. If you say, "Man, I love these girls," it's pretty obvious that you're not trying to be condescending. But if you say, "Man, I love this team," you're getting the same message across, but you don't have to leave it to someone to interpret.

 

[Littlemin]

John Cleese in one of the Monty Python reunion get togethers on Netflix has a very insightful comment on how the “modern“ world can’t even begin to solve major conflicts around the world, Syria to be specific to his comment, but can police language down to being offended by a single word. My mother, who raised 12 children on my fathers hard working single salary and then taught special needs children as a volunteer for 15 years after we all grew up, wore the title of “lady” with pride and as a show of respect, which is exactly how I thought the person who started the thread used the term. Just my opinion, but I find it sad someone chose to look on the use of the word in the context it was presented as an offensive term.