Kimani at the game for Abdou Toure

[husky429]

Always refreshing to see honesty (about your posts on Clingan). They did make sense, but maybe he is just that good or his AAU games were enough to prep him for UConn.

I'm not convinced AAU is really prep at all--just exposure. I would imagine people are going to be surprised by Abdou this summer. Expressions is known for playing younger guys up in 17u, so he may have some great competition too.

 

[Kenny11]

What are you talking about? New England has more good to great prep schools than any other area in the country. We may not have the elite Montverde/Sierra Canyons/etc but we stand up pound for pound. You can see multiple great prep basketball games within a 2 hour drive of your house here which is 100x easier than most other areas in the country.

But that's entirely my point. Go play prep basketball. Don't pound your chest in a public school league when you're not a public school.

Most of those games have horrible atmospheres. And kids that are good basketball players but not top of the top should not have to finance 50k to go to one of those schools. It’s so annoying when ciac coaches/parents complain about their kids playing against solid players. And the truth is the best catholic schools are not fielding teams with more than 1 and once in a while 2 d1 prospects (usually not high major players).

 

[husky429]

Most of those games have horrible atmospheres. And kids that are good basketball players but not top of the top should not have to finance 50k to go to one of those schools. It’s so annoying when ciac coaches/parents complain about their kids playing against solid players. And the truth is the best catholic schools are not fielding teams with more than 1 and once in a while 2 d1 prospects (usually not high major players).

Yeah, NEPSAC environments sucks.

It's also silly to ignore the fact that catholic schools are recruiting better players and it's an unfair advantage over publics. East Catholic and NWC recruited every single one of the better players that went through my program. Just give the Catholic schools their own division in the CIAC if they won't pony up the money to be in NEPSAC.

 

[MuchoDogYears]

Clingan is big…in bare feet

 

[Zonepress]

I mean you don't need to be a great coach to do what Shea has done at ND. To be clear I don't think he's a bad dude and actually know some guys that played with him at Conn College who speak well of him.

I do know that they're basically the new Sacred Heart (of Waterbury). They recruit anyone and everyone from all over and then go beat up on mostly public schools (blame the CIAC for allowing that). Shea is widely unpopular inside most of the ciac basketball committees and among rival coaches. The prep school they basically founded out of thin air to bolster his program was a travesty. And then they left dozens of kids in a lurch when the program folded because everyone knew it was a sham. Just a bad look all around.

NDs recent success isn't apple apples with what Coach Palladino did or really most ciac coaches. Shea is playing a completely different game.

Have heard what you’ve posted
Let’s see if Willie Darden from new haven
Enrolls at ndwh
Told he is the best player out of new haven
Since tremont

 

[Kenny11]

Yeah, NEPSAC environments sucks.

It's also silly to ignore the fact that catholic schools are recruiting better players and it's an unfair advantage over publics. East Catholic and NWC recruited every single one of the better players that went through my program. Just give the Catholic schools their own division in the CIAC if they won't pony up the money to be in NEPSAC.

Yeah that’s fine. There’s really not a lot of them though. And in some other sports that they don’t care as much about they can often times be much worse than a random middle sized public schools. Even in football some years they can really suck

And yeah I can’t see any of those schools becoming nepsac type prep schools. They really aren’t well funded schools.

 

[businesslawyer]

Yeah that’s fine. There’s really not a lot of them though. And in some other sports that they don’t care as much about they can often times be much worse than a random middle sized public schools. Even in football some years they can really suck

And yeah I can’t see any of those schools becoming nepsac type prep schools. They really aren’t well funded schools.

All true. But why any of that is the problem for public high schools is what I don’t get.

 

[Zonepress]

Yeah, NEPSAC environments sucks.

It's also silly to ignore the fact that catholic schools are recruiting better players and it's an unfair advantage over publics. East Catholic and NWC recruited every single one of the better players that went through my program. Just give the Catholic schools their own division in the CIAC if they won't pony up the money to be in NEPSAC.

The CIAC tried to address this by creating a division, one for boys basketball with 16 or 17 school
East Catholic North West Catholic saint Bernards
Xavier, Notre Dame at West Haven, Fairfield prep kolbe Cathedral, Notre Dame a Fairfield
Are in that division
Somehow holy cross Waterberry in Saint Joseph’s Trumbull are not
After all the recruiting with the Vito montrlli the new administration at Saint Josephs, put an end
To recruiting and they are no longer a power
Imho the CIAC while trying to fix one problem
Screwed schools like Ridgefield who have great coaching and participation are forced to compete in div 1
They would have been the favorite in div11
The bb past 2/3 years
I agree time to put Catholic schools in one division

 

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Yeah that’s fine. There’s really not a lot of them though. And in some other sports that they don’t care as much about they can often times be much worse than a random middle sized public schools. Even in football some years they can really suck

And yeah I can’t see any of those schools becoming nepsac type prep schools. They really aren’t well funded schools.

I never really saw Catholic schools being that big of a problem playing public schools. In the 860 there’s only two of them and they go through their ups and downs just like everyone else.

Maybe it’s more of a problem in the 203? But even then there’s Hillhouse, New London had Kris Dunn at a point, and Bridgeport Central can be good some years as well. Doug Wiggins came from East Hartford and so did Khari Beaufort.

Maybe I just haven’t paid very close attention in a few years but back when I played I never noticed Catholic schools being that big of a deal to play against.

 

[Rico444]

I never really saw Catholic schools being that big of a problem playing public schools. In the 860 there’s only two of them and they go through their ups and downs just like everyone else.

Maybe it’s more of a problem in the 203? But even then there’s Hillhouse, New London had Kris Dunn at a point, and Bridgeport Central can be good some years as well. Doug Wiggins came from East Hartford and so did Khari Beaufort.

Maybe I just haven’t paid very close attention in a few years but back when I played I never noticed Catholic schools being that big of a deal to play against.

It's about having an unfair advantage. They can recruit kids from any town, publics can't.

 

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It's about having an unfair advantage. They can recruit kids from any town, publics can't.

Is what it is. They have to get their kids from somewhere and the kids still have to afford to go to that school.

There’s not many kids I’ve seen play at those Catholic schools who shouldn’t have been there. Only one real example comes to mind from way back.

I don’t think it’d be fair to the good public schools to take away some of their main competition.

 

[M.S.G.]

I never really saw Catholic schools being that big of a problem playing public schools. In the 860 there’s only two of them and they go through their ups and downs just like everyone else.

Maybe it’s more of a problem in the 203? But even then there’s Hillhouse, New London had Kris Dunn at a point, and Bridgeport Central can be good some years as well. Doug Wiggins came from East Hartford and so did Khari Beaufort.

Maybe I just haven’t paid very close attention in a few years but back when I played I never noticed Catholic schools being that big of a deal to play against.

Kris Dunn actually lived in Montville, yet mysteriously enrolled at NL.

Vin Baker jr. played his freshman year @ Fitch, sophomore year @ Ledyard, and his last 2 @ Old Saybrook.

 

[superjohn]

Yeah, NEPSAC environments sucks.

It's also silly to ignore the fact that catholic schools are recruiting better players and it's an unfair advantage over publics. East Catholic and NWC recruited every single one of the better players that went through my program. Just give the Catholic schools their own division in the CIAC if they won't pony up the money to be in NEPSAC.

Just think how much CT high school basketball would suck without East Catholic, NDWH, ND Catholic Fairfield, Windsor, Northwest Catholic, Saint Bernard School, Sacred Heart Waterbury (now defunct which is a shame) Holy Cross Waterbury, Trinity Catholic Stamford, St. Joseph's Trumbull.

These schools keep top kids in state much better than the publics were doing which to me is much better than seeing all the talent leave to play at boarding schools during the afternoon in front of boring sparse crowds.

 

[Zonepress]

I never really saw Catholic schools being that big of a problem playing public schools. In the 860 there’s only two of them and they go through their ups and downs just like everyone else.

Maybe it’s more of a problem in the 203? But even then there’s Hillhouse, New London had Kris Dunn at a point, and Bridgeport Central can be good some years as well. Doug Wiggins came from East Hartford and so did Khari Beaufort.

Maybe I just haven’t paid very close attention in a few years but back when I played I never noticed Catholic schools being that big of a deal to play against.

Just think how much CT high school basketball would suck without East Catholic, NDWH, ND Catholic Fairfield, Windsor, Northwest Catholic, Saint Bernard School, Sacred Heart Waterbury (now defunct which is a shame) Holy Cross Waterbury, Trinity Catholic Stamford, St. Joseph's Trumbull.

These schools keep top kids in state much better than the publics were doing which to me is much better than seeing all the talent leave to play at boarding schools during the afternoon in front of boring sparse crowds.

The last I looked basketball at public high schools is an activity that students can participate in
They are not “progams” who is goal is to prepare students to be college or professional players
High school basketball is supposed to be something that students the community and the players can have fun doing and hopefully learn some values of competition, teamwork, making friends, etc.
To me that doesn’t “suck”
If talented players and their parents want to choose not to go to a public school I don’t see how that’s anybody’s business but theirs
I guess in your way,of thinking the fact that 10 or 15 talented players are not playing at state high schools that somehow high school basketball is diminished
Diminished for who?
Certainly not for those who coach and participate

 

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Kris Dunn actually lived in Montville, yet mysteriously enrolled at NL.

Vin Baker jr. played his freshman year @ Fitch, sophomore year @ Ledyard, and his last 2 @ Old Saybrook.

I don’t blame Kris for making that happen tbh when you’re that close. New London was so good then.

I remember the first time I saw him at a jamboree in lay up lines his junior year. He and a teammate of his treated it like a dunk contest throwing lobs off the backwall (not backboard) to themselves. In game, he caught an OOB alley oop dunk with 2 hands down the middle of the lane. I don’t remember who his teammate was but I think they won a championship that year in L.

That’s a whole lot of moving from Vin though. Transferring to schools 30 mins away is wild.

 

[Deleted at users request]

The last I looked basketball at public high schools is an activity that students can participate in
They are not “progams” who is goal is to prepare students to be college or professional players
High school basketball is supposed to be something that students the community and the players can have fun doing and hopefully learn some values of competition, teamwork, making friends, etc.
To me that doesn’t “suck”
If talented players and their parents want to choose not to go to a public school I don’t see how that’s anybody’s business but theirs
I guess in your way,of thinking the fact that 10 or 15 talented players are not playing at state high schools that somehow high school basketball is diminished
Diminished for who?
Certainly not for those who coach and participate

Eh, some public high schools for sure operate as programs. Just not a lot. It’s crazy the amount of talent New Haven can split between all their different schools. Don’t know why Hartford isn’t the same way. A strong Weaver and Bulkeley would help CT HS Basketball a lot.

 

[Zonepress]

I never really saw Catholic schools being that big of a problem playing public schools. In the 860 there’s only two of them and they go through their ups and downs just like everyone else.

Maybe it’s more of a problem in the 203? But even then there’s Hillhouse, New London had Kris Dunn at a point, and Bridgeport Central can be good some years as well. Doug Wiggins came from East Hartford and so did Khari Beaufort.

Maybe I just haven’t paid very close attention in a few years but back when I played I never noticed Catholic schools being that big of a deal to play against.

Hillhouse last won a championship
In 2017
Bpt Central 2013
Since the CIAC went to The Div 1 concept
In2018
Both finalists have been Catholic Schools
No 2020
And 2021 due to Covid but fair to say
East Catholic and ndwh would haven been favorites
Ct city Schools have not dominated hs
Basketball like they once did
Lots of reasons but certainly players going to Catholic schools
And prep schools is part of it

 

[Zonepress]

Eh, some public high schools for sure operate as programs. Just not a lot. It’s crazy the amount of talent New Haven can split between all their different schools. Don’t know why Hartford isn’t the same way. A strong Weaver and Bulkeley would help CT HS Basketball a lot.

They’re actually has not been a lot of talent coming out of New Haven like there was in the 60s 70s 80s and 90s (tremont waters the last player recruited at the national level)
New Haven has always had three schools to divide the talent
And why would a strong weaver and Buckley help ct basketball a lot?

 

[HuskyInfinity]

I don’t blame Kris for making that happen tbh when you’re that close. New London was so good then.

I remember the first time I saw him at a jamboree in lay up lines his junior year. He and a teammate of his treated it like a dunk contest throwing lobs off the backwall (not backboard) to themselves. In game, he caught an OOB alley oop dunk with 2 hands down the middle of the lane. I don’t remember who his teammate was but I think they won a championship that year in L.

That’s a whole lot of moving from Vin though. Transferring to schools 30 mins away is wild.

I think it was Allan Chaney. I played in the same conference as them while they were at NL and they would just toy with us. Remember Kris as a freshman would put kids on skates regardless of if he was playing us country folk or someone better hahah

 

[superjohn]

The last I looked basketball at public high schools is an activity that students can participate in
They are not “progams” who is goal is to prepare students to be college or professional players
High school basketball is supposed to be something that students the community and the players can have fun doing and hopefully learn some values of competition, teamwork, making friends, etc.
To me that doesn’t “suck”
If talented players and their parents want to choose not to go to a public school I don’t see how that’s anybody’s business but theirs
I guess in your way,of thinking the fact that 10 or 15 talented players are not playing at state high schools that somehow high school basketball is diminished
Diminished for who?
Certainly not for those who coach and participate

More competition raises the play of everyone, it adds interest and excitement to communities. I disagree with everything you're saying, kids getting scholarships to play sports and getting college educations is a great thing and should be the goal. Look at Dan Hurley's father, he got all those kids free rides to college through basketball. That benefitted so many kids, their families, the kids they went on to have. It improved the overall community.

Connecticut high school basketball used to send a ton of kids on to full ride basketball scholarships in the 70's and 80's. The public schools sent far less since. There's been so many kids who would've made it out of Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, Waterbury, New Britain had there been better programs in the following decades. There was a lot of wasted talent. That's a bad/sad thing.

 

[Drame]

Old Saybrook wasn't good then or ever really, so not sure why Vin Baker transferred there. Old Saybrook was our conference and they were way better the two years he was there.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Hillhouse last won a championship
In 2017
Bpt Central 2013
Since the CIAC went to The Div 1 concept
In2018
Both finalists have been Catholic Schools
No 2020
And 2021 due to Covid but fair to say
East Catholic and ndwh would haven been favorites
Ct city Schools have not dominated hs
Basketball like they once did
Lots of reasons but certainly players going to Catholic schools
And prep schools is part of it

Ahhh I see. I haven’t paid attention at all post COVID since some of the kids I were familiar with graduated. Didn’t know the tides have turned that far. I did notice Windsor just beat East Catholic this past week so there is hope for the public’s just yet!

They’re actually has not been a lot of talent coming out of New Haven like there was in the 60s 70s 80s and 90s (tremont waters the last player recruited at the national level)
New Haven has always had three schools to divide the talent
And why would a strong weaver and Buckley help ct basketball a lot?

I remember Career, Wilbur Cross, and Hillhouse always fielding great to solid teams. Even back when Hyde used to be open they won some state championships. It was crazy how they used to all be pretty good at the same time.

Hartford should produce way more talent than it does and the talent would go to those two schools most likely. Making for a more competitive 860 than East Catholic, Northwest, and Windsor taking turns winning the CCC that year.

 

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I think it was Allan Chaney. I played in the same conference as them while they were at NL and they would just toy with us. Remember Kris as a freshman would put kids on skates regardless of if he was playing us country folk or someone better hahah

I wonder if he played D1 after. He definitely seemed like he had the talent for it.

That’ll happen when you’re playing the #1 PG in the country at the time too lol

 

[Zonepress]

More competition raises the play of everyone, it adds interest and excitement to communities. I disagree with everything you're saying, kids getting scholarships to play sports and getting college educations is a great thing and should be the goal. Look at Dan Hurley's father, he got all those kids free rides to college through basketball. That benefitted so many kids, their families, the kids they went on to have. It improved the overall community.

Connecticut high school basketball used to send a ton of kids on to full ride basketball scholarships in the 70's and 80's. The public schools sent far less since. There's been so many kids who would've made it out of Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, Waterbury, New Britain had there been better programs in the following decades. There was a lot of wasted talent. That's a bad/sad thing.

It would take way too much time comment
On all of what you’ve said
But the the narrative of “made it out “
Of ct cities I find insulting to the schools and the cities
On the test we will just have to disagree

 

[superjohn]

I wonder if he played D1 after. He definitely seemed like he had the talent for it.

That’ll happen when you’re playing the #1 PG in the country at the time too lol

Chaney played at University of Florida and High Point.

 

[Zonepress]

Ahhh I see. I haven’t paid attention at all post COVID since some of the kids I were familiar with graduated. Didn’t know the tides have turned that far. I did notice Windsor just beat East Catholic this past week so there is hope for the public’s just yet!


I remember Career, Wilbur Cross, and Hillhouse always fielding great to solid teams. Even back when Hyde used to be open they won some state championships. It was crazy how they used to all be pretty good at the same time.

Hartford should produce way more talent than it does and the talent would go to those two schools most likely. Making for a more competitive 860 than East Catholic, Northwest, and Windsor taking turns winning the CCC that year.

Wilbur cross last one a state championsjip
In 1985

 

[superjohn]

It would take way too much time comment
On all of what you’ve said
But the the narrative of “made it out “
Of ct cities I find insulting to the schools and the cities
On the test we will just have to disagree

Made it out- went to college, got a college education, played basketball in college, saw and experienced more of the world.

How is that insulting?

 

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Wilbur cross last one a state championsjip
In 1985

Yeah Wilbur Cross is the reason I put “solid” in there lmao

Point being, Hartford needs to find a way to better field some of the talent it has like the New Haven schools have done. It would help a lot to level the playing field (because I assume you still have to pay to go to the Catholic schools?)

 

[Zonepress]

Yeah Wilbur Cross is the reason I put “solid” in there lmao

Point being, Hartford needs to find a way to better field some of the talent it has like the New Haven schools have done. It would help a lot to level the playing field (because I assume you still have to pay to go to the Catholic schools?)

On the list of things that could be improved in public schools in the city having a basketball team
That’s better than they currently are wouldn’t make any list
As info the chef versus O’Neill’s decision has led to multiple high schools within the city, even within Weaver high school itself
Hey, most of the city schools have small enrollments now with a very big focus on career education
Some of those schools are not located within Hartford itself, but open to hard for students

 

[youseethat]