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Kimani at the game for Abdou Toure

Yeah, I forgot he came back, but I definitely know he had not yet committed. I know someone in athletics at ND who always posted about his college recruitment.

EDIT: I just checked, indeed he had not committed until after the moved to Notre Dame. He committed to Georgetown in the late Fall, and then decommitted in the spring when Thompson was fired. He committed to LSU in the summer (June).

I'm a firm believer that you can't judge any coach based on game day. Let me watch a practice. Some of the best coaches in the state are coaching in small towns with minimal game-day success because of factors out of the coaches control.
 
Bob Hurley Sr had limited resources his entire career and made major impacts on his players for college and beyond. HS coaches frequently have a major influence on their kids . They do it out of love for the game and passion for their players and their families.

If you were given the opportunity to have played for one of those special coaches-- You're a lucky dude.
 
429: ok i am old. Can you message me?

I can't start DM's. I must be on the mod bad boy list. If you click on my name there should be a "start new conversation" button.
 
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Don't let talent discrepancy confuse you. Hand coach is just a much better coach. Not even close.
That's a BS take. I am an alum of NDWH and can tell you Jason Shea is a much better Coach than Gary Palladino ever was. Just look at how the program has turned into one of the top programs in the state after Pal retired.

On top of that, Jason played for Glenn Miller at Connecticut College. Jason knows what he's doing. He's very smart. He left a career in finance to go teach at NDWH.

If there is one thing Jason knows how to do well its coach. And Jason's lead assistant, Jason Kirck, left to take over Sacred Heart Academy and that program has turned into one of the top WBB programs in the state.

I'm sure the Hand coach is great himself. And we need more great coaches in the state.

And a personal relationship with Jason has nothing to do with my opinion of him. I'm not friendly with Jason. I know him in passing, but if he saw me in the grocery store or something, he probably wouldn't recognize me, or if he did, it would take a second to come to him.
 
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Stay close to home?

If I had a son, high level MBB player, really tough advice to give about choosing between Yale and UConn.

If he was a lock to be a first-round NBA pick I'd probably try to encourage him to pick UConn as he should enter the draft as soon as he can (age and ready wise), will receive better coaching and MBB experience in Storrs.

If he was border-line NBA material it's hard to turn away from the usual long-term advantages of a Yale degree. Get the sheepskin, try out for the NBA, maybe earn quick $$ overseas, come back and take advantages of Ivy-business world connections they are real and potentially valuable.

First World choices.
 
Stay close to home?

If I had a son, high level MBB player, really tough advice to give about choosing between Yale and UConn.

If he was a lock to be a first-round NBA pick I'd probably try to encourage him to pick UConn as he should enter the draft as soon as he can (age and ready wise), will receive better coaching and MBB experience in Storrs.

If he was border-line NBA material it's hard to turn away from the usual long-term advantages of a Yale degree. Get the sheepskin, try out for the NBA, maybe earn quick $$ overseas, come back and take advantages of Ivy-business world connections they are real and potentially valuable.

First World choices.

I think if you're good enough to play for a Top-10 team like UConn, you should probably play for a top-10 team like UConn and maximize professional earning potential. If you play a couple years and don't live up to 4*/5* potential, you can always transfer down to an Ivy or other elite academic school.
 
Have him talk to Alex about our academics.

I’m sure the decision for a smart kid who cares deeply about academics makes this more difficult on a personal level than it seems from an outsiders perspective. James Jones is also a very respected coach who could probably help him make the league.

But a kid that smart knows his earning potential in basketball has a ceiling, and you have to make decisions to maximize that potential. I’d imagine that’s why he’ll end up here, or somewhere like Duke, by the end of his recruitment.
 
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Stay close to home?

If I had a son, high level MBB player, really tough advice to give about choosing between Yale and UConn.

If he was a lock to be a first-round NBA pick I'd probably try to encourage him to pick UConn as he should enter the draft as soon as he can (age and ready wise), will receive better coaching and MBB experience in Storrs.

If he was border-line NBA material it's hard to turn away from the usual long-term advantages of a Yale degree. Get the sheepskin, try out for the NBA, maybe earn quick $$ overseas, come back and take advantages of Ivy-business world connections they are real and potentially valuable.

First World choices.
It's just the start of his recruitment but I think it's pretty clear already he wants UConn and UConn wants him.
 
That's a BS take. I am an alum of NDWH and can tell you Jason Shea is a much better Coach than Gary Palladino ever was. Just look at how the program has turned into one of the top programs in the state after Pal retired.

On top of that, Jason played for Glenn Miller at Connecticut College. Jason knows what he's doing. He's very smart. He left a career in finance to go teach at NDWH.

If there is one thing Jason knows how to do well its coach. And Jason's lead assistant, Jason Kirck, left to take over Sacred Heart Academy and that program has turned into one of the top WBB programs in the state.

I'm sure the Hand coach is great himself. And we need more great coaches in the state.

And a personal relationship with Jason has nothing to do with my opinion of him. I'm not friendly with Jason. I know him in passing, but if he saw me in the grocery store or something, he probably wouldn't recognize me, or if he did, it would take a second to come to him.
Im NDWH class of 97, what year are you?
 
Jason Shea is a much better Coach than Gary Palladino ever was. Just look at how the program has turned into one of the top programs in the state after Pal retired
I mean you don't need to be a great coach to do what Shea has done at ND. To be clear I don't think he's a bad dude and actually know some guys that played with him at Conn College who speak well of him.

I do know that they're basically the new Sacred Heart (of Waterbury). They recruit anyone and everyone from all over and then go beat up on mostly public schools (blame the CIAC for allowing that). Shea is widely unpopular inside most of the ciac basketball committees and among rival coaches. The prep school they basically founded out of thin air to bolster his program was a travesty. And then they left dozens of kids in a lurch when the program folded because everyone knew it was a sham. Just a bad look all around.

NDs recent success isn't apple apples with what Coach Palladino did or really most ciac coaches. Shea is playing a completely different game.
 
I mean you don't need to be a great coach to do what Shea has done at ND. To be clear I don't think he's a bad dude and actually know some guys that played with him at Conn College who speak well of him.

I do know that they're basically the new Sacred Heart (of Waterbury). They recruit anyone and everyone from all over and then go beat up on mostly public schools (blame the CIAC for allowing that). Shea is widely unpopular inside most of the ciac basketball committees and among rival coaches. The prep school they basically founded out of thin air to bolster his program was a travesty. And then they left dozens of kids in a lurch when the program folded because everyone knew it was a sham. Just a bad look all around.

NDs recent success isn't apple apples with what Coach Palladino did or really most ciac coaches. Shea is playing a completely different game.
Wish there were more high school coaches and schools like that in CT, you would have much better basketball and kids would stay home instead of leaving. This is how it's done in basketball states like Illinois and New Jersey.
 
Wish there were more high school coaches and schools like that in CT, you would have much better basketball and kids would stay home instead of leaving. This is how it's done in basketball states like Illinois and New Jersey.
exactly
 
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I mean you don't need to be a great coach to do what Shea has done at ND. To be clear I don't think he's a bad dude and actually know some guys that played with him at Conn College who speak well of him.

I do know that they're basically the new Sacred Heart (of Waterbury). They recruit anyone and everyone from all over and then go beat up on mostly public schools (blame the CIAC for allowing that). Shea is widely unpopular inside most of the ciac basketball committees and among rival coaches. The prep school they basically founded out of thin air to bolster his program was a travesty. And then they left dozens of kids in a lurch when the program folded because everyone knew it was a sham. Just a bad look all around.

NDs recent success isn't apple apples with what Coach Palladino did or really most ciac coaches. Shea is playing a completely different game.
You aren’t wrong.
 
Wish there were more high school coaches and schools like that in CT, you would have much better basketball and kids would stay home instead of leaving. This is how it's done in basketball states like Illinois and New Jersey.

What are you talking about? New England has more good to great prep schools than any other area in the country. We may not have the elite Montverde/Sierra Canyons/etc but we stand up pound for pound. You can see multiple great prep basketball games within a 2 hour drive of your house here which is 100x easier than most other areas in the country.

But that's entirely my point. Go play prep basketball. Don't pound your chest in a public school league when you're not a public school.
 
What are you talking about? New England has more good to great prep schools than any other area in the country. We may not have the elite Montverde/Sierra Canyons/etc but we stand up pound for pound. You can see multiple great prep basketball games within a 2 hour drive of your house here which is 100x easier than most other areas in the country.

But that's entirely my point. Go play prep basketball. Don't pound your chest in a public school league when you're not a public school.
It's amazing you can't follow along. What the hell do you think I'm talking about? I expect Toure to leave like the majority of the other college prospects in the state do. That's the whole point, in states who take high school basketball seriously like Illinois and New Jersey the kids tend to stay, it makes the basketball much stronger throughout the state.
 
I mean you don't need to be a great coach to do what Shea has done at ND. To be clear I don't think he's a bad dude and actually know some guys that played with him at Conn College who speak well of him.

I do know that they're basically the new Sacred Heart (of Waterbury). They recruit anyone and everyone from all over and then go beat up on mostly public schools (blame the CIAC for allowing that). Shea is widely unpopular inside most of the ciac basketball committees and among rival coaches. The prep school they basically founded out of thin air to bolster his program was a travesty. And then they left dozens of kids in a lurch when the program folded because everyone knew it was a sham. Just a bad look all around.

NDs recent success isn't apple apples with what Coach Palladino did or really most ciac coaches. Shea is playing a completely different game.
Hey try beating up on Windsor. East Catholic found out it’s not so easy again this year ;)
 
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I’m listeningThis should be good. You never tire of embarrassing yourself.
You’re talking to someone who knows more about that program than anyone on this board. But sure, tell me how these players aren’t from Windsor.

Especially the teams that actually have won championships and players that play D1.
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It would probably be best for his career to get out and to a prep with better competition regardless. They're not a bad program at all historically, but what kind of skills he can develop playing against 6'3 kids with a -4" vertical is a big question.

But to be fair, I said the same thing about Clingan and that worked out alright for him.
Always refreshing to see honesty (about your posts on Clingan). They did make sense, but maybe he is just that good or his AAU games were enough to prep him for UConn.
 
You’re talking to someone who knows more about that program than anyone on this board. But sure, tell me how these players aren’t from Windsor.

Especially the teams that actually have won championships and players that play D1.
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I like Ken Smith, he's been recruiting kids since I was in high school.

I don't know your reasoning for pretending he doesn't but you're already making concessions so it's obvious you don't even believe what you're saying.
 
I like Ken Smith, he's been recruiting kids since I was in high school.

I don't know your reasoning for pretending he doesn't but you're already making concessions so it's obvious you don't even believe what you're saying.
I said the last part because you’re trying to say this hypothetical thing is some huge part of his success.

When you go through his championship teams and some of his best players that have went D1, they are Windsor raised guys through and through. Windsor in general has a great talent pool. There are guys who play in the NFL through the football team and the track program is elite too. Couple of baseball players who are/have played in the minors as well.
 
I like Ken Smith, he's been recruiting kids since I was in high school.

I don't know your reasoning for pretending he doesn't but you're already making concessions so it's obvious you don't even believe what you're saying.

He recruits just as much as the prep schools in the CIAC. Don't get me started on that BS. They're all just too cheap tp join NEPSAC.
 
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