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msf22b said:
Starts, shmarts.
The important thing is that Saniya has been publicly humiliated (after she scored 20 points).
How she responds is the key.
If you ask me (don't have to), it should…(how about might)…have been handled differently.[/QUOTE

Couldnt agree more!
As far as someone claiming that Chong gave up 30 points to Stanford..it was JEFFERSON 17, Chong 16 and Nurse 12. if you look at what each player scored Chong was the only guard in the positive. hey...can't blame anyone after all the commentator on ESPN couldn't help herself from bashing Chong on defense while propping up Nurse as if she was her daughter. GO HUSKIES
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Couldn't agree more!
As far as someone claiming Chong gave up 30 points to Stanford...it was Jefferson 17,Chong 16 and Nurse 12. If you look at what each player scored Chong was the only guard in the positive. hey can't blame anyone after all the commentator on ESPN couldn't help herself from bashing Chong on defense while propping up Nurse as if she was her daughter. GO HUSKIES
 
Sonny44 said:
That last foul called on Kia was a terrible call.
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The charge call as Doris pointed out the defenders feet were inside the circle, and has to be called a block, completely missed by the ref.
 
WildEagle said:
Chappette, thanks for the correction. You are correct on both accounts, yes that was a rant, I need to vent about Gino, Luigi, whatever, somewhere and yes I misspelled GENO but not on purpose.
I use Gino because it is a shortened form of Luigino not Luigeno. I guess Geno is still thought of as Little Louis by his family. In my family we were all Luigi I guess we are all thought of as adults, LOL!!
Just kidding about the adult thing, I will try to remember to use Geno from now on, I guess after 9 NCAA chips he has earned the right to spell his nick name anyway he wants.
Like I said, I needed to rant somewhere, just hate it when coaches play mind games with kids at any level.
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What mind games are you talking about?
 
tomcat said:
Regarding Morgan Tuck, I am clearly missing something. Don't get me wring. I've been a fan since she got to UConn. But I;ve been generally disappointed with what I saw in the two games so far. Sometimes she was just what you'd want. Other times, hands of stone and an inability to follow up on chippies. I hope she's as good as Geno is saying, but I guess I'm just a hopeful skeptic right now.
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This is her soph year and she missd a year of basketball. Missing a year imo is huge. She'll be fine. It's unfortunate we're in the lousy AAC as well. In the NCAA tourney she may struggle also. She's just a soph for intents and purposes.
 
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I'd say "publicly challenged" as opposed to humiliated.
 
Kibitzer said:
And this statement was based on what?
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Just my opinion Kib, the play that mainly stands out is where Orrange attacked the basket from her right hand side going to her left, which was no surprise and Chong just opened up and let her go even though she was on the left side and could have stood for a charge or kept her on her right side.
 
So who starts for KML, Saniya or Morgan?
 
wallman said:
Just my opinion Kib, the play that mainly stands out is where Orrange attacked the basket from her right hand side going to her left, which was no surprise and Chong just opened up and let her go even though she was on the left side and could have stood for a charge or kept her on her right side.
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That was a team-wide phenomenon, it happened over and over, with multiple players. I was dismayed to say the least to see such poor defensive execution by UConn. It was not just Saniya, I even saw the much-praised Nurse do exactly the same. Also MoJetts and K.
 
msf22b said:
Starts, shmarts.
The important thing is that Saniya has been publicly humiliated (after she scored 20 points).
How she responds is the key.
If you ask me (don't have to), it should…(how about might)…have been handled differently.
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How did Kia do with her first start of the season? Thankfully Geno is more objective than some of our posters and plays the women who he believes give UCONN the best chance to win.

As far as how Geno handles his players, it is amazing how he gets by without the insight of our Saniya posters. I would love to see the BY support the transition from last year's team to a work in progress team and stay away from trying to help him manage the players' egos.
 
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Never said that it wasn't eventually going to happen. You just lost Chong. Hope everybody stays healthy.
 
What i was saying is that Nurse was eventually going to start.
Probably should have started her from the start,
Hall of fame coach or not he handled the whole thing poorly.
If someone goes down and he needs Chong she might not rebound from this.
 
OssiningPride said:
What i was saying is that Nurse was eventually going to start.
Probably should have started her from the start,
Hall of fame coach or not he handled the whole thing poorly.
If someone goes down and he needs Chong she might not rebound from this.
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Chong is an adult. I'm sure she'll be OK.
 
OssiningPride said:
What i was saying is that Nurse was eventually going to start.
Probably should have started her from the start,
Hall of fame coach or not he handled the whole thing poorly.
If someone goes down and he needs Chong she might not rebound from this.
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If Saniya is that fragile that she lets being replaced in the starting lineup destroy her confidence in the manner you seem to be suggesting, she came to the wrong program. I truly hope this isn't the case. I tend to think she will be fine and adapt to her sixth man role quite well.

And how do you know how Geno handled it? Perhaps he sat down with Saniya and explained his reasons for the change and she said "sure, coach, I will be ready when I get in the game" instead of "oh man, he thinks I suck. I will never be any good so what is the point? Unless I start I'm not even going to try." Seems to me you should give your hometown girl a little more credit on her strength and character.
 
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OssiningPride said:
What i was saying is that Nurse was eventually going to start.
Probably should have started her from the start,
Hall of fame coach or not he handled the whole thing poorly.
If someone goes down and he needs Chong she might not rebound from this.
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How do you know how he handled it? Unless of course you mean he didn't call you and get your advice first. You said Nurse probably should have started from the start. If he did that you would have complained about not giving Chong a chance. I get confused by some posters about the objective of the UCONN program this year. I am hoping for a well run program that emphasizes team over any particular player's ego, whether it be Chong/Nurse/Williams/Edwards/Ekmark or even Stokes.
 
OssiningPride said:
What i was saying is that Nurse was eventually going to start.
Probably should have started her from the start,
Hall of fame coach or not he handled the whole thing poorly.
If someone goes down and he needs Chong she might not rebound from this.
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I'd be disappointed if Geno carried a player simply because he felt sorry for her not being able to commit.
 
OssiningPride said:
Never said that it wasn't eventually going to happen. You just lost Chong. Hope everybody stays healthy.
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Oh please. If her confidence was that fragile, then she probably wouldn't have the mental toughness to be an elite athlete in the first place and would probably do better to be playing intramural ball somewhere. Historically with Geno if you don't play defense you don't play. Why should she be an exception?
 
Chong has the rest of the season to earn the starting position back. She will either step up her game and get better or she can float along at her current level and be a role player. Hopefully she will show a competitive spirit and do all she can to improve.
 
watanabe said:
What? By losing, By not playing defense, by Geno for not starting her? Give us something to respond to.
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i was going to start a new thread entitled mind games.
You want something to respond to: here it is.
Saniya's game today was as inevitable as the stars coming out at night.

You take a kid…a major basketball talent, who has shown fragility in the past
And virtually all but blame her for the loss at Stanford (after she score 20 points).
Nothing about Mo (for example), who wasn't exactly an all-star on that occasion.
Now, i've read in the thread that she's a grown-up, that if she's not tough enough to take it…whatever.'
All a lot of crap in my view.

If he wants to start Nurse, fine, she's a great player
But destroying S's confidence is surely not a necessary corollary .
Some day there's going to be a kid…a talented kid like Saniya
Whose going to tell Geno to F-off, I'd rather go somewhere where I'm appreciated…now, today !

And (with all thought's to Cat, who corrected my factual errors with regard summer activities).
These sort of problems seem to occur when Geno accepts other responsibilities.
As I said earlier; this (the whole situation) might have been handled more sensitively.
 
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Not sure this is Geno's style. Just recently he said the he's not against paying bball players, but then he'd also like to have the right to fire them. And, he does have quite the track record in this sport to validate his style. Chong has a chance to be great. Let's see if she has the maturity to keep fighting for it. We're all pulling for her, but we are not the NC winning coach of this team (maybe in my dreams...Nah! I'm a fan, not a coach).
 
Geno can't win. If he decides to replace a starter and ssys "I have reasons that I am not going to share" or simply " I am doing what I feel is best for us to win" people will say he owes an explanation why. When he says the reason why, he gets criticized for being insensitive. You can't have it both ways.

Geno is nothing if not brutally honest. He has been around long enough that is a fact that is well established. Kids know this coming in. My feeling is those who are claiming, in essence, Saniya's confidence has been shattered are short changing her grit and strength, and her team first attitude. You know, if I am Saniya and I hear that fans feel that I am not strong enough mentally or emotionally that I can't accept the change or that my confidence is destroyed, that would be more hurtful.

Saniya played more minutes than Kiah Stokes and only one minute less than Moriah -two starters. While she didn't score any points, none of her shots were bad shots, she didn't hesitate to take shots, she hustled on both ends. At least two of her shots were part way down before they came back out. If Geno felt she was a liability, she would have seen fewer minutes - Creighton or not. She played hard and did not look any less confident then she did against Stanford. To me anyway.

I don't get why some posters feel she isn't
tough enough to accept this move or use it as motivation to improve where Geno feels she needs to improve. She is a tough kid. I don't really think any permanent or long term damage was done to her psyche. Kind of sad that some of you don't have confidence in her adaptability.
 
msf22b said:
i was going to start a new thread entitled mind games.
You want something to respond to: here it is.
Saniya's game today was as inevitable as the stars coming out at night.

You take a kid…a major basketball talent, who has shown fragility in the past
And virtually all but blame her for the loss at Stanford (after she score 20 points).
Nothing about Mo (for example), who wasn't exactly an all-star on that occasion.
Now, i've read in the thread that she's a grown-up, that if she's not tough enough to take it…whatever.'
All a lot of crap in my view.

If he wants to start Nurse, fine, she's a great player
But destroying S's confidence is surely not a necessary corollary .
Some day there's going to be a kid…a talented kid like Saniya
Whose going to tell Geno to F-off, I'd rather go somewhere where I'm appreciated…now, today !

And (with all thought's to Cat, who corrected my factual errors with regard summer activities).
These sort of problems seem to occur when Geno accepts other responsibilities.
As I said earlier; this (the whole situation) might have been handled more sensitively.
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I hate how some of you look upon these players as little china dolls like they are 5 year olds. But its your perogative. And the day they take your attitude - I will stop being a fan. But again your perogative.

But were you the one that said Chong is now "lost" for the season?
 
UConnChapette said:
Geno can't win. If he decides to replace a starter and ssys "I have reasons that I am not going to share" or simply " I am doing what I feel is best for us to win" people will say he owes an explanation why. When he says the reason why, he gets criticized for being insensitive. You can't have it both ways.

Geno is nothing if not brutally honest. He has been around long enough that is a fact that is well established. Kids know this coming in. My feeling is those who are claiming, in essence, Saniya's confidence has been shattered are short changing her grit and strength, and her team first attitude. You know, if I am Saniya and I hear that fans feel that I am not strong enough mentally or emotionally that I can't accept the change or that my confidence is destroyed, that would be more hurtful.

Saniya played more minutes than Kiah Stokes and only one minute less than Moriah -two starters. While she didn't score any points, none of her shots were bad shots, she didn't hesitate to take shots, she hustled on both ends. At least two of her shots were part way down before they came back out. If Geno felt she was a liability, she would have seen fewer minutes - Creighton or not. She played hard and did not look any less confident then she did against Stanford. To me anyway.

I don't get why some posters feel she isn't
tough enough to accept this move or use it as motivation to improve where Geno feels she needs to improve. She is a tough kid. I don't really think any permanent or long term damage was done to her psyche. Kind of sad that some of you don't have confidence in her adaptability.
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Great post.
 
hoophuskee said:
I hate how some of you look upon these players as little china dolls like they are 5 year olds. But its your perogative. And the day they take your attitude - I will stop being a fan. But again your perogative.

But were you the one that said Chong is now "lost" for the season?
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No, I don't necessarily think that.
But she sure looks sad out there (watching the game).
 
msf22b said:
No, I don't necessarily think that.
But she sure looks sad out there (watching the game).
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You and I were wathcing different games then. As Uconnchap says - all her shots were good shots. I hardly call it sad- maybe her shooting awful but to call her play "sad."?. If you were a coach and evaluated every game of a player if they hit shots - you'd be a lot meaner than Geno imo. Unless you mean she was sad - like "crying sad?"

SO your evaluation of today from SC was sad-awful play. Let's see if we can find quotes from Geno to see what he thought of SC.

And what does "I don't necessarily think that"mean? You either do or you don't.
 
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