Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[RSTuthill]

yeah it's such an outlandish thing to think we'll magically sell out UCF, Cincinatti and Houston when we were in the same conference as them a few years ago and didn't come close to selling out those games. Like, we have the data that shows how many people showed up. The last time we played Cinci at home we drew 20,000. 23,000 for UCF. 12,000 for Houston.

if we suck, it won't matter if we're playing Iowa State or Texas Tech. We still won't draw a crowd.

Just win baby.

 

[Stinger92860]

Yormark: We are clearly the number one basketball conference in America. But if there is an opportunity to double down and create more value for our basketball business, absolutely, we should pursue it and explore it and we have. And will continue to do such. I think that’s a very important part of who we are as a conference, our basketball prowess, both men’s and women’s, and again, if there are opportunities to strengthen that position that we already have, I would like to pursue it in a holistic conversation and we have had those conversations and we’ll see where they take us.

This, Danny’s extension, B12 Rucker program, the mention of Women’s basketball, etc. Tea leaves for the good guys.

 

[RSTuthill]

This, Danny’s extension, B12 Rucker program, the mention of Women’s basketball, etc. Tea leaves for the good guys.

I agree but we are driving ourselves crazy.

 

[uconnyankee]

This has the makings of a serious kick to the nuts! Not sure my steel cup is gonna be enough for this one.

 

[jostar1]

I agree but we are driving ourselves crazy.

 

[DGB]

yeah it's such an outlandish thing to think we'll magically sell out UCF, Cincinatti and Houston when we were in the same conference as them a few years ago and didn't come close to selling out those games. Like, we have the data that shows how many people showed up. The last time we played Cinci at home we drew 20,000. 23,000 for UCF. 12,000 for Houston.

if we suck, it won't matter if we're playing Iowa State or Texas Tech. We still won't draw a crowd.

UConn would draw a crowd for its first season in the Big 12 regardless of record. You bring up Cinci, UCF, and Houston here...and I suppose that's fair...but those would now be the least interesting conference foes UConn would be playing, as opposed to the most interesting as they were in the AAC.

In season one with the Big 12 UConn would sell out for Texas Tech, TCU, WVU, Ok St., KSU, Baylor, ISU, and probably KU. BYU, Cinci, Houston, and UCF would also do well in year one. After year one, if UConn isn't competitive the novelty will wear off and interest will wane. But in this type of football conference as soon as things turn around the fans would come back immediately.

 

[Waquoit]

If we join the Big XII I hope you're right. But I would take the other side of that.

BYU drew 35,150 in a 2-10 Diaco year. They don't sellout now? I consider them around the B12 median.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Seriously? That list is almost the opposite of prior conference additions.

He's taking an ends justify the means approach. Yormack wants a footprint in the Northeast and UConn is that conduit. So, you look at what UConn brings to the table and you emphasize those strong points at selection criteria.

 

[uconnyankee]

The name alone makes this key!

 

[RegisteredUconn]

No school has one more men's and women's titles combined than Connecticut.

I doubt the entire B12 conference combined has more titles than CT does all by itself. And B12 has Kansas and Baylor who each have multiples.

 

[CL82]

He's taking an ends justify the means approach. Yormack wants a footprint in the Northeast and UConn is that conduit. So, you look at what UConn brings to the table and you emphasize those strong points at selection criteria.

It sure looks like it. Pretty much the same way that you can tell the likely target of a coaching job listing by looking at the published criteria for the job.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

It sure looks like it. Pretty much the same way that you can tell the likely target of a coaching job listing by looking at the published criteria for the job.

Ha ha. Not just coaching jobs. How many postings have you seen where you work where the posting practically says "Must be named Dan Hurley."

 

[Jimbo]

I doubt the entire B12 conference combined has more titles than CT does all by itself. And B12 has Kansas and Baylor who each have multiples.

Pretty sure that’s right. Off the top of my head:
Kansas (4) + Baylor (4) + Oklahoma St. (2) + Cincinnati (2) + Texas Tech (1) + departing Texas (1) = 14
And 14 is not as many as 16.

 

[noeynox]

Not CR related but key nonetheless. Cost of going from FCS to FBS, about to skyrocket. Think they're about to close rank on FBS membership.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Ha ha. Not just coaching jobs. How many postings have you seen where you work where the posting practically says "Must be named Dan Hurley."

All the time if your company has a lot of H-1Bs.

 

[RSTuthill]

Pretty sure that’s right. Off the top of my head:
Kansas (4) + Baylor (4) + Oklahoma St. (2) + Cincinnati (2) + Texas Tech (1) + departing Texas (1) = 14
And 14 is not as many as 16.

This does not look right with all due respect to the top of your head. Surely the B12 has more natty's combined than UConn. No??? Has the top of your head been following B12 non-football championships that closely? If so, maybe a better question is why, but I will not ask that at this time?

 

[Skiblets]

Another data point about the likelihood of a good PAC media rights agreement. Exec summary. Not very good.

CBS guy quote:

‘We’re gonna see a lot of movement since the Pac-12 media rights deal is sort of all over the place — we’ve seen Apple kinda go away, we’ve seen the CW kind of go. The Pac-12’s a big-time mess right now, due in large part to Larry Scott, the former commissioner who really sent this whole thing into a spiral 10 years ago.’

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/the-pac-12-expected-to-determine-the-fate-of-the-next-realignment-wave

 

[Urcea]

Another data point about the likelihood of a good PAC media rights agreement. Exec summary. Not very good.

CBS guy quote:

‘We’re gonna see a lot of movement since the Pac-12 media rights deal is sort of all over the place — we’ve seen Apple kinda go away, we’ve seen the CW kind of go. The Pac-12’s a big-time mess right now, due in large part to Larry Scott, the former commissioner who really sent this whole thing into a spiral 10 years ago.’

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/the-pac-12-expected-to-determine-the-fate-of-the-next-realignment-wave

I do worry about the stability of the Big 12 were we to go there if the Pac 12 recovers its footing, financially and prestige wise

 

[FfldCntyFan]

This does not look right with all due respect to the top of your head. Surely the B12 has more natty's combined than UConn. No??? Has the top of your head been following B12 non-football championships that closely? If so, maybe a better question is why, but I will not ask that at this time?

This was in response to a couple posts that were men's and women's basketball specific.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Pretty sure that’s right. Off the top of my head:
Kansas (4) + Baylor (4) + Oklahoma St. (2) + Cincinnati (2) + Texas Tech (1) + departing Texas (1) = 14
And 14 is not as many as 16.

If B12 gets to add Cincy's 2, they don't get to keep Texas' 1. So 16>13. Or soon will be anyway. When does Texas officially leave?

 

[Bongo Fury]

If B12 gets to add Cincy's 2, they don't get to keep Texas' 1. So 16>13. Or soon will be anyway. When does Texas officially leave?

The same day UConn arrives

 

[gioff2323]

Just slightly off

championships won as members of the Big 12 (since 1996-97) in conference-sponsored sports are included.

Updated through June 12, 2023

TEAM CHAMPIONS (81)

 

[The Yakk]

Also possible is that the Big 12 takes 3 of the 4 corner schools and UConn. I don't see why the Big 12 would want 2 Arizona schools. I think UConn is a better add than the second Arizona school.

UA and ASU are seperate markets. Tucson and Phoenix. Also, the rivalry is great and keeping them together adds value.

But we should be ahead of Utah by any metric.

 

[Chuck]

Just slightly off

championships won as members of the Big 12 (since 1996-97) in conference-sponsored sports are included.

Updated through June 12, 2023

TEAM CHAMPIONS (81)

In fairness, it isn't THAT far off. First, he did mention that the post was a response to someone that posted about men's/women's basketball.

Also, you should really take out 59 of the 81 team championships referenced above which were won by Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado or Texas A&M (add 5 back if Colorado rejoins). I guess you add 2 back for Cinci (from 1961 and 1962, before the 1996-97 referenced above), but not UCF's claimed title. So that's 24 won by next year's Big 12 roster.

UConn has, by itself, won 23 (basketball, field hockey, soccer). We'll catch the Big 12 field within five years.

 

[Dooooooomed]