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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.
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Red is Houston's biggest fan.
Though it seems as though those in the know in the Longhorn State don't think he has the influence he likes to project.
The ACC @theACC
. @theACC & @espn will hold a press conference Thursday at 10am. Watch live on ESPN3
Andrew Carter @_andrewcarter 42m42 minutes ago
ACC announces Thursday PC w/Swofford, ESPN pres John Skipper, Kevin White (leader of ACC TV Committee), others. My guess is TV-related.
. @theACC & @espn will hold a press conference Thursday at 10am. Watch live on ESPN3
Andrew Carter @_andrewcarter 42m42 minutes ago
ACC announces Thursday PC w/Swofford, ESPN pres John Skipper, Kevin White (leader of ACC TV Committee), others. My guess is TV-related.
Bobby Burton that covers Texas.
With conference expansion now seemingly all but a foregone conclusion based on the events of yesterday, there are two pressing matters to discuss.
Which schools are the best fits to join the conference? And what does the future for Texas look like as a result of this decision?
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Debates over which schools are best to join the conference can be had. The general candidates are:
Houston
Memphis
Cincinnati
UConn
Central Florida
South Florida
BYU
Here's the problem with that list. Five of those seven schools are considered "commuter" schools, which tend to breed the lifetime loyalty of its students (both former and current) about as much as San Jacinto Junior College does. If the Big 12 expands to 14, it's a given that Houston, Memphis and Cincinnati will be three of the four. The fourth comes down to UConn or either of the directional Florida schools with the likely preference of UCF.
If it's just two teams, it'll likely be Cincinnati and Memphis or Cincinnati and Houston.
However, what could throw a real wrench in the plans of those commuter schools is if a school from a Power 5 school wants to throw its hat in the ring. But I think the likelihood of that ever getting much traction is remote because, based on the people I have spoken to at Texas, I doubt Texas is willing to give the assurances necessary to any such incoming member regarding its long-term commitment to the conference. So while some may mention Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State as possible additions, none of those schools would leave their current deals for a Big 12 that did not include a long-term commitment from Texas.
The only assurance Texas, or any school for that matter, could truly give to any newcomer is the "grant of rights" to the league that is currently in place. That grant for Texas and all of teams of the Big 12 extends to 2025. Yet I don't see an extension of the grant of rights occurring based on my discussion with a high-ranking Texas official this morning. "I do not like any of the choices," the official said. "(I) want to watch to see if there is a move to extend the grant of TV rights. I will fight that tooth and nail." So there you have it. There will be multiple discussions and iterations of a possible newly minted Big 12 with new teams, but Texas is unlikely willing to bestow its TV rights beyond 2025. That means the Big 12 will be looking primarily at adding commuter schools, which, in turn, only means Texas is likely headed to either the Big 10, SEC or Pac-12 come 2025.
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As for my opinion on the matter, I think Texas is a better fit in the Big 10 or SEC in the future. I'd personally favor the SEC, but it's my understanding that Texas president Greg Fenves and UT chancellor William McRaven both prefer the Big 10. In that case, expect Texas to ask for an annual trip to Chicago (playing either Northwestern or Illinois 80 miles down the road from there) and to either of the East Coast markets (either DC, by playing Maryland, or NYC, by playing Rutgers
With conference expansion now seemingly all but a foregone conclusion based on the events of yesterday, there are two pressing matters to discuss.
Which schools are the best fits to join the conference? And what does the future for Texas look like as a result of this decision?
**
Debates over which schools are best to join the conference can be had. The general candidates are:
Houston
Memphis
Cincinnati
UConn
Central Florida
South Florida
BYU
Here's the problem with that list. Five of those seven schools are considered "commuter" schools, which tend to breed the lifetime loyalty of its students (both former and current) about as much as San Jacinto Junior College does. If the Big 12 expands to 14, it's a given that Houston, Memphis and Cincinnati will be three of the four. The fourth comes down to UConn or either of the directional Florida schools with the likely preference of UCF.
If it's just two teams, it'll likely be Cincinnati and Memphis or Cincinnati and Houston.
However, what could throw a real wrench in the plans of those commuter schools is if a school from a Power 5 school wants to throw its hat in the ring. But I think the likelihood of that ever getting much traction is remote because, based on the people I have spoken to at Texas, I doubt Texas is willing to give the assurances necessary to any such incoming member regarding its long-term commitment to the conference. So while some may mention Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State as possible additions, none of those schools would leave their current deals for a Big 12 that did not include a long-term commitment from Texas.
The only assurance Texas, or any school for that matter, could truly give to any newcomer is the "grant of rights" to the league that is currently in place. That grant for Texas and all of teams of the Big 12 extends to 2025. Yet I don't see an extension of the grant of rights occurring based on my discussion with a high-ranking Texas official this morning. "I do not like any of the choices," the official said. "(I) want to watch to see if there is a move to extend the grant of TV rights. I will fight that tooth and nail." So there you have it. There will be multiple discussions and iterations of a possible newly minted Big 12 with new teams, but Texas is unlikely willing to bestow its TV rights beyond 2025. That means the Big 12 will be looking primarily at adding commuter schools, which, in turn, only means Texas is likely headed to either the Big 10, SEC or Pac-12 come 2025.
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As for my opinion on the matter, I think Texas is a better fit in the Big 10 or SEC in the future. I'd personally favor the SEC, but it's my understanding that Texas president Greg Fenves and UT chancellor William McRaven both prefer the Big 10. In that case, expect Texas to ask for an annual trip to Chicago (playing either Northwestern or Illinois 80 miles down the road from there) and to either of the East Coast markets (either DC, by playing Maryland, or NYC, by playing Rutgers
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We can't afford to sponsor any more scholarship sports.
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Luckily football coaches have NO say in the matter.
We already sponsor the most of any of the teams under consideration.
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As predictable as sunriseLol, that is not startling at all.
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As I've posted in other threads, I think this could indicate the Big 12 will go for the schools willing to take the steepest haircut - i.e., the commuter schools. OU / UT take the money and run.
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Those positions are for sale
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When I hear the "who's willing to take the steepest haircut" line, I wonder why not us? Why would we refuse literally any deal that the Big XII offered us? How could they offer us any deal that would leave us with less revenue than what we'll see in the near future in an AAC likely devoid of at least one of its top teams after the Big XII raids, AND after Big East money runs out...I'm not asking these questions rhetorically. I genuinely don't know much about the finances of CR and don't get why that question is even being posed by pundits
Heather Dinich@CFBHeather
The @espn car wash rolls on with the @Big12Conference coaches today ... starting my interviews today with @TCUCoachP
Jake Trotter@Jake_Trotter
Big 12 coaches cycling through Bristol all day today.
Joe Schad @schadjoe · 10h10 hours ago
Welcome to Bristol, Big 12. You know - It’s only 46 miles to Storrs.
The @espn car wash rolls on with the @Big12Conference coaches today ... starting my interviews today with @TCUCoachP
Jake Trotter@Jake_Trotter
Big 12 coaches cycling through Bristol all day today.
Joe Schad @schadjoe · 10h10 hours ago
Welcome to Bristol, Big 12. You know - It’s only 46 miles to Storrs.
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UConn people should be soliticing them at ESPN as we speak.
Tom Schad @Tom_Schad · 3h3 hours ago
Here's a statement from Memphis athletic director Tom Bowen, a day after the news on Big 12 expansion:
Dan Wolken @DanWolken · 1h1 hour ago
Three words I do not see in this statement: American Athletic Conference
Here's a statement from Memphis athletic director Tom Bowen, a day after the news on Big 12 expansion:
Dan Wolken @DanWolken · 1h1 hour ago
Three words I do not see in this statement: American Athletic Conference
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Why isn't anyone mentioning Cincy losing President Santa Ono? Got to think that's a big deal...
Mike Finger @mikefinger · 37m37 minutes ago
Texas' expansion decision: Is it time to bend again?
UT’s decision: Is it time to bend again?
From the story:
Now, with the rest of its Big 12 brethren overcome with expansion fever, UT faces a similar question about whether or not budging is worth it. To be clear, no one officially voted to add teams to the conference this week. Instead, the unanimous vote by the league’s board of directors — comprised of presidents and chancellors — was to authorize commissioner Bob Bowlsby to contact potential candidates.
This might sound like semantics, but the difference between agreeing to explore expansion and agreeing to actually expand is huge. Texas president Greg Fenves, chancellor Bill McRaven and athletic director Mike Perrin have agreed to the former. But they’ll still need some additional persuading to go all the way.
UT officials have said all along they’re not opposed to expansion, but will consider it only if they can be convinced a worthy candidate can be added. Wednesday, Fenves repeated that sentiment in a statement to the Express-News.
“I’m open to expansion if the proposal is a strong one,” Fenves said. “The conference is actively evaluating the possibilities.”
So if the Longhorns can find as few as two like-minded partners within the league, they will be able to block candidates they don’t want (just like any other member can). They might decide to go along with the popular choice. They might not.
UT sources indicated Wednesday that while administrators didn’t undergo a change of heart about expansion this week, they went from “open and skeptical” to “open and less skeptical.” For those pushing for expansion, that might be enough.
Texas' expansion decision: Is it time to bend again?
UT’s decision: Is it time to bend again?
From the story:
Now, with the rest of its Big 12 brethren overcome with expansion fever, UT faces a similar question about whether or not budging is worth it. To be clear, no one officially voted to add teams to the conference this week. Instead, the unanimous vote by the league’s board of directors — comprised of presidents and chancellors — was to authorize commissioner Bob Bowlsby to contact potential candidates.
This might sound like semantics, but the difference between agreeing to explore expansion and agreeing to actually expand is huge. Texas president Greg Fenves, chancellor Bill McRaven and athletic director Mike Perrin have agreed to the former. But they’ll still need some additional persuading to go all the way.
UT officials have said all along they’re not opposed to expansion, but will consider it only if they can be convinced a worthy candidate can be added. Wednesday, Fenves repeated that sentiment in a statement to the Express-News.
“I’m open to expansion if the proposal is a strong one,” Fenves said. “The conference is actively evaluating the possibilities.”
So if the Longhorns can find as few as two like-minded partners within the league, they will be able to block candidates they don’t want (just like any other member can). They might decide to go along with the popular choice. They might not.
UT sources indicated Wednesday that while administrators didn’t undergo a change of heart about expansion this week, they went from “open and skeptical” to “open and less skeptical.” For those pushing for expansion, that might be enough.
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Probably not. I am sure he had some sort of relationship with some of the Big 12 people, but they aren't looking at him as a candidate, they are looking at Cincinnati, with or without him.
A poster on Landthieves mentioned that. And they also said that the Kansas State President who left hurts UConn because we had a relationship with him. He's the one who had dinner with Herbst after a women's basketball game.