Kevin Stacom on the State of PC and NCAA (lack of) Leadership

[Scrutineer]

A friend from PC sent me this article. Well done, with insights into the state of PC's team this year as well as his thoughts, and those of several prominent coaches, on the failures of the NCAA's leadership. My question is "where is Charlie Baker and the leadership he was hired to provide?"
My thoughts on Baker center on from where he came. Politics and a highly regulated industry, healthcare. Maybe he's a good politician but so far it looks to me as if he needs regulation to save him from himself. He's supposed to be the leader the NCAA believed would pull disparate entities together to save the NCAA and college sports from ruin. It's not working and the examples Stacom cites regarding recent recruits from the G-League, a former NBA draft pick, and other moves no one would believe possible a few years ago prove there's real doubts about how long the NCAA can survive.

GoLocalProv | Sports | Maybe Take a Deep Breath - Kevin Stacom

Maybe take a deep breath. Or as I remember, Red Auerbach stating succinctly one time, “Panic is an unproductive response.”

www.golocalprov.com

 

[auror]

Baker was hired to try and get legislation passed to save the NCAA. It hasn't happened yet, but they're still working on it. There's more momentum on it than there has been at other points. Every "the NCAA is failing" post and article probably helps the cause.

 

[HooperScooper]

My question is "where is Charlie Baker and the leadership he was hired to provide?"

This article was in the Boston Globe yesterday. Columnist Dan Shaughnessy spoke to Baker about the issues facing the NCAA. If anyone is very interested in this stuff.

What about NIL?

“In my first year the only people who were allowed to talk to student-athletes about money was everybody but the school,” said Baker. “That’s not good because the school is more likely to have a different point of view than the agents and the collectives. For me, making it possible for the schools to participate in an NIL program so at least they could talk to kids and maybe create a relationship, might help kids stick around. We’re still early in the process.”

NIL. Congress. Eligibility. Is the college sports system broken? - The Boston Globe

NCAA president Charlie Baker and former Northeastern AD Peter Roby offer their views. I told Charlie I wouldn't take his job for all the money in the world.

www.bostonglobe.com

The RuffRuff Alternate Access™:

NIL. Congress. Eligibility. Is the college sports system broken?​

 

[upstater]

A friend from PC sent me this article. Well done, with insights into the state of PC's team this year as well as his thoughts, and those of several prominent coaches, on the failures of the NCAA's leadership. My question is "where is Charlie Baker and the leadership he was hired to provide?"
My thoughts on Baker center on from where he came. Politics and a highly regulated industry, healthcare. Maybe he's a good politician but so far it looks to me as if he needs regulation to save him from himself. He's supposed to be the leader the NCAA believed would pull disparate entities together to save the NCAA and college sports from ruin. It's not working and the examples Stacom cites regarding recent recruits from the G-League, a former NBA draft pick, and other moves no one would believe possible a few years ago prove there's real doubts about how long the NCAA can survive.

GoLocalProv | Sports | Maybe Take a Deep Breath - Kevin Stacom

Maybe take a deep breath. Or as I remember, Red Auerbach stating succinctly one time, “Panic is an unproductive response.”

www.golocalprov.com

The most powerful voices, the ones running the SEC and the B1G, are not criticizing Charlie Baker because they are the ones who prevent Baker from regulating the college sports landscape.

Baker doesn't have the power that's been taking away from him by the P2, and why would he go it alone and risk lawsuits?

When the deal came down forcing non-football schools to pay the compensation of former football players, that was all she wrote for the NCAA. It was over then and there.

Baker is earning a high salary and people in that position like to earn high salaries.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

Baker was hired to try and get legislation passed to save the NCAA. It hasn't happened yet, but they're still working on it. There's more momentum on it than there has been at other points. Every "the NCAA is failing" post and article probably helps the cause.

Imagine being so bad at your job (Emmert) that your successor is tasked with saving your organization

 

[FfldCntyFan]

That article was somewhat informative, I had almost forgotten that PC still existed.

 

[NJHusky]

Imagine being so bad at your job (Emmert) that your successor is tasked with saving your organization

Emmert was responsible for the destruction of college sports we loved for decades.

He should have followed Constanza’s Seinfeld episode—opposite. George. If every instinct you have is wrong, the opposite must be right.

 

[bendm]

i have a hunch that there are a bunch of closet PC fans masquerading as UConn fans on the yard. theyre pretending to be someone that deep down theyre not. that's bound to cause some emotional/mental issues.

 

[HooperScooper]

i have a hunch that there are a bunch of closet PC fans masquerading as UConn fans on the yard. theyre pretending to be someone that deep down theyre not. that's bound to cause some emotional/mental issues.

Well let’s be honest, if you were a PC fan living in CT wouldn’t you start rooting for UConn instead of living a miserable non-fulfilling sports fan life?

 

[Scrutineer]

i have a hunch that there are a bunch of closet PC fans masquerading as UConn fans on the yard. theyre pretending to be someone that deep down theyre not. that's bound to cause some emotional/mental issues.

To what are you referring? This discussion is about the NCAA's impotence or unwillingness to lead on the issue that will define whether or not there's any reason for any of us to care about college sports if things keep progressing as they have been the past decade.

 

[Waquoit]

Baker was hired to try and get legislation passed to save the NCAA. It hasn't happened yet, but they're still working on it

So you admit, he’s been a complete failure to date.

 

[bendm]

To what are you referring

Doesn’t the thread title include “the state of PC”? My comment pertained to the state of mind of closet PC fans

 

[brihman]

So you admit, he’s been a complete failure to date.

Baker is not an idiot. The system is badly broken.

 

[Waquoit]

Baker is not an idiot. The system is badly broken.

He’s an empty suit. He’s had the job for two years and hasn’t done squat. Whenever I see him, all he’s doing is whining for Congress to fix his problems. I don’t think fixing NCAA is any of the business of Congress. Who cares if it crashes and burns.

 

[bendm]

John Calipari critical of adding pro players to college game

With recent additions of players with professional experience to college teams, Arkansas coach John Calipari said Monday that without new rules, the sport will lose high school players.

www.espn.com

Calamari liked it better when there were rules to break

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Baker is not an idiot. The system is badly broken.

Most of you trash talkers about the NCAA leadership A) can't name a single actual thing you would do better, and B) would be whimpering on the floor in the fetal position if you were President of the NCAA for 4 hours.

 

[brihman]

Most of you trash talkers about the NCAA leadership A) can't name a single actual thing you would do better, and B) would be whimpering on the floor in the fetal position if you were President of the NCAA for 4 hours.

I would try to bring reason to the transfer portal. One transfer no penalty anything after has to be sit out a year. And I could make it a day. I’d imagine Baker has a lot of Zoom calls where he says ‘thanks everyone’ at the end. I can do that.

 

[Scrutineer]

Doesn’t the thread title include “the state of PC”? My comment pertained to the state of mind of closet PC fans

Of course it does. It was written by Kevin Stacom for a Providence publication and discussed the team before transitioning to the NCAA failures most of us are focused on.

 

[bendm]

Of course it does. It was written by Kevin Stacom for a Providence publication and discussed the team before transitioning to the NCAA failures most of us are focused on.

Idk what you want

 

[Chief00]

So you admit, he’s been a complete failure to date.

Baker has been a failure. My sense is too much focus on preserving his own income stream rather than do something that might save college sports that would cause some waves.

 

[Chief00]

Of course it does. It was written by Kevin Stacom for a Providence publication and discussed the team before transitioning to the NCAA failures most of us are focused on.

Kevin is a bright guy, who played in NBA, scouted for Mark Cuban and can bring the business and sport things together. He is very insightful.

 

[Waquoit]

Most of you trash talkers about the NCAA leadership A) can't name a single actual thing you would do better, and B) would be whimpering on the floor in the fetal position if you were President of the NCAA for 4 hours.

Projection alert

 

[temery]

Most of you trash talkers about the NCAA leadership A) can't name a single actual thing you would do better

Transfers sit one year.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Transfers sit one year.

The courts effectively took care of that. The NCAA has no current authority to do anything about that.

 

[Hoophound]

The issue with the sit one year rule is NIL. Can I get NIL that year? If so, it is a no brainer for most players to extend their NIL earnings as many years as possible. I’m not sure if you can restrict NIL payments for the years sat out. We could see guys collecting NIL for 7-8 years if they can make money while sitting out. I think the courts ruled you can’t stop the kids from earning their worth.

 

[temery]

The courts effectively took care of that. The NCAA has no current authority to do anything about that.

I don't believe that's true. The court say they could be paid, they never said they have to play.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I don't believe that's true. The court say they could be paid, they never said they have to play.

Restricting their access to earn by something artificial like a transfer period will be illegal. The NCAA can fight it if they want, but they will lose and Baker knows it. Also, that transfer period would likely be deemed a non-compete, which will be difficult to enforce in many states.

 

[temery]

Restricting their access to earn by something artificial like a transfer period will be illegal. The NCAA can fight it if they want, but they will lose and Baker knows it. Also, that transfer period would likely be deemed a non-compete, which will be difficult to enforce in many states.

Colleges and universities have absolutely no legal responsibility to provide the opportunity for anyone to make money while playing a sport. If they can limit play to x years, they can limit play for transfers.

Nobody's saying that a transfer can't be paid to sit, but there is definitely the option to say that a transfer can't play for at least one year.

If they're worth the money, they'll be paid to sit.

Off topic a bit... but if the nba can set a salary cap, why can't the ncaa set limits?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Colleges and universities have absolutely no legal responsibility to provide the opportunity for anyone to make money while playing a sport. If they can limit play to x years, they can limit play for transfers.

Nobody's saying that a transfer can't be paid to sit, but there is definitely the option to say that a transfer can't play for at least one year.

If they're worth the money, they'll be paid to sit.

Off topic a bit... but if the nba can set a salary cap, why can't the ncaa set limits?

The NBA salary cap was set through collective bargaining, a completely different legal umbrella to the free-for-all in college.

NIL and House gave college athletes the right to earn, which means that a restriction of a year wait to play will likely be deemed a non-compete. Several states (CA, OK, MN) do not enforce them at all, and another 30 or so states place a pretty high bar on enforcing non-competes.

Baker can litigate if he wants, but he will lose. He needs either some form of collective bargaining or an act of Congress to be able to do virtually anything in terms of regulating college athletics. The conferences' authority has not been challenged yet, but that is just a matter of time.

 

[JB75]

A friend from PC sent me this article. Well done, with insights into the state of PC's team this year as well as his thoughts, and those of several prominent coaches, on the failures of the NCAA's leadership. My question is "where is Charlie Baker and the leadership he was hired to provide?"
My thoughts on Baker center on from where he came. Politics and a highly regulated industry, healthcare. Maybe he's a good politician but so far it looks to me as if he needs regulation to save him from himself. He's supposed to be the leader the NCAA believed would pull disparate entities together to save the NCAA and college sports from ruin. It's not working and the examples Stacom cites regarding recent recruits from the G-League, a former NBA draft pick, and other moves no one would believe possible a few years ago prove there's real doubts about how long the NCAA can survive.

GoLocalProv | Sports | Maybe Take a Deep Breath - Kevin Stacom

Maybe take a deep breath. Or as I remember, Red Auerbach stating succinctly one time, “Panic is an unproductive response.”

www.golocalprov.com

The picture of Cam going crazy at Illinois game in front of charlie Baker and all the stuffed suits he surrounds himself with will never escape me -maybe it was Purdue, but it was one of those games. Classic cam love it. You know Baker was pissed We were whipping his Big Ten squads.