CTBasketball
Former Owner of the Pizza Thread
- Joined
- Aug 27, 2012
- Messages
- 10,081
- Reaction Score
- 34,410
Please do not let Andre’s injury linger. Don’t rush him back!
I agree with your premise but I think it may be reading a little too deeply into the quote right now. We have to remember practices haven’t been “normal” for quite some time. Distancing for much of summer workouts and working out in smaller pods and not full team can be a reason why a full time leader hasn’t emergedNot in the mood for derailing this read. Yet.
I do believe coaches in many sports at many levels have freely stated who the leaders are on their teams.
It’s always nice if you have a PG who fills that void.Not the best of quotes. Ideally when you have a leader leave, someone steps in and fills the void immediately. Vital last laced them up almost 6 months ago.
Not going to freak out but would rather read "X has stepped up to be the leader", rather than X, Y, Z could be the leader".
I definitely think Brown will be redshirting. When it comes to Martin I definitely see your argument. It’s tricky though. If he’s granted a waiver then we truly have a loaded roster. As you mentioned, it’ll give Hurley headaches trying to figure the rotation out but I truly think we’d be 12 deep.in other words we'll haven no guard depth and a potentially ridiculous front court rotation?
cole-gaffney
bouk
adams-jackson-martin
whaley-polley-springs-akok
carlton-sanogo-brown
figuring out the rotations for this roster must give hurley headaches. imo the team would be better served this year and next if brown and martin both red shirted.
cole-gaffney
bouk-adams
polley-jackson
whaley-springs-akok
carlton-sanogo
Definitely agree here. Playing this year sets up Martin to have the best year possible next year, ie, with no rust.Here's a question in regards to Martin being eligible for all. Why would we redshirt Martin when we more than likely we only have one more year of Bouk? The potential 2-3 of those 2 together on the court with Jackson backing them up is scary. I'd like to see Bouk and Martin play together to help get the best out of each while on the court.
but by that logic redshirting next year would set him up for his best possible year as a senior in 2022 when we will have a better team than in 2021 and be competing for a natty chipDefinitely agree here. Playing this year sets up Martin to have the best year possible next year, ie, with no rust.
Nah that's not the logic. He only has two options at this point. Play next year having played this year or play next year having not played this year. The logic is he'll be better next year if he's played the year before and not taken time off.but by that logic redshirting next year would set him up for his best possible year as a senior in 2022 when we will have a better team than in 2021 and be competing for a natty chip
so you're saying he wouldnt stay and play for 2 more years if he has to redshirt this year? i hope that's not the case. we dont know if hurley would have even recruited him if he was a sit 1 play 1 rather than a sit 1 play 2. hurley has made it as clear as he can without directly calling martin out that he wanted him to redshirt this year.Nah that's not the logic. He only has two options at this point. Play next year having played this year or play next year having not played this year. The logic is he'll be better next year if he's played the year before and not taken time off.
Um no. That's not what I'm sayingso you're saying he wouldnt stay and play for 2 more years if he has to redshirt this year? i hope that's not the case. we dont know if hurley would have even recruited him if he was a sit 1 play 1 rather than a sit 1 play 2. hurley has made it as clear as he can without directly calling martin out that he wanted him to redshirt this year.
then try explaining yourself...Um no. That's not what I'm saying
If I understand his post correctly he's saying we're looking at Martin playing in the 2021 season as a given. Looking only at 2021 his options are playing 2021 after a redshirt year (and then playing 2022 after) or playing 2021 after playing this upcoming seasonthen try explaining yourself...
you said martin would be better in 2021 if he played in 2020 rather than redshirting. duh. so i said he'd be at his best as a redshirt senior in 2022 after playing in 2021 and redshirting in 2020...
you said that's not the logic because his only options are redshirting this year and then playing in 2021 or playing in 2020 and 2021. idk what that means since he can redshirt and then play for 2 years...
what's the logic there? the world isnt ending in 2021 (i hope) there will be a 2022If I understand his post correctly he's saying we're looking at Martin playing in the 2021 season as a given. Looking only at 2021 his options are playing 2021 after a redshirt year (and then playing 2022 after) or playing 2021 after playing this upcoming season
I guess the logic would be maximizing the team for a run in 2021. I'd have to give it a lot more thought to see if I'd prefer that but feel like a compelling case could be made. Backcourt of senior Cole/junior Gaffney, likely last years of Akok and Jackson could be a team to make a deep tourney runwhat's the logic there? the world isnt ending in 2021 (i hope) there will be a 2022
So there's this player, Jordan Hawkins, who committed to UConn, who plays the same position as Martin and Bouknight. He will be a Freshman in 2021 and he and the staff are only planning on him being here 2 years. I can assure you the plan is not for him to back up Martin in 2022.what's the logic there? the world isnt ending in 2021 (i hope) there will be a 2022
I have never seen a coach complain of too much talent....don’t think this would be in hurleys mind frame at allin other words we'll haven no guard depth and a potentially ridiculous front court rotation?
cole-gaffney
bouk
adams-jackson-martin
whaley-polley-springs-akok
carlton-sanogo-brown
figuring out the rotations for this roster must give hurley headaches. imo the team would be better served this year and next if brown and martin both red shirted.
cole-gaffney
bouk-adams
polley-jackson
whaley-springs-akok
carlton-sanogo
bouknight isnt going to be here at the same time as hawkins so dont worry about him.So there's this player, Jordan Hawkins, who committed to UConn, who plays the same position as Martin and Bouknight.
Based on your previous posts, I assumed the logic would escape you.this guy named bouknight isnt going to be here at the same time as hawkins so dont worry about him.
but there's also this guy named jackson that will be a sophomore starter in 2021 and he plays the same position as hawkins and martin too.
if hawkins can't start as a sophomore over martin then that's on him, especially if he thinks he's getting drafted after that season. hurley isnt going to rush martin out the door just to guarantee hawkins doesnt have any competition for a starting spot. jackson might still be here as a junior too and then what? once again your logic escapes me.
funny. still having trouble articulating your thoughts i see. can't make a coherent point so resorting to ad homiem insults. hate to see it.Based on your previous posts, I assumed the logic would escape you.
Where did it become a bad thing to have more than 2 guys at a position, if Hawkins, Martin, and Jackson are all around good for us. Why do you keep mentioning this type of depth as a negative?bouknight isnt going to be here at the same time as hawkins so dont worry about him.
but there's also this guy named jackson that will be a sophomore starter in 2021 and he plays the same position as hawkins and martin too.
if hawkins can't start over martin as a sophomore then that's on him, especially if he thinks he's getting drafted after that season. hurley isnt going to rush martin out the door just to guarantee hawkins doesnt have any competition for a starting spot. jackson might still be here as a junior too and then what? once again your logic escapes me.
bgesus is the once saying martin has to be gone by 2022 so hawkins has a clear path to starting... that's not the same thing as me thinking 7 forwards on the roster in 2020 is overly crowded. most teams go 8-9 deep not 12-13.Where did it become a bad thing to have more than 2 guys at a position, if Hawkins, Martin, and Jackson are all around good for us. Why do you keep mentioning this type of depth as a negative?
Based on the way we’ve gotten the injury bug the last 4-5 years, having 12-13 quality players doesn’t seem like an issue to me.bgesus is the once saying martin has to be gone by 2022 so hawkins has a clear path to starting... that's not the same thing as me thinking 7 forwards on the roster in 2020 is overly crowded. most teams go 8-9 deep not 12-13.