Kevin Duffy: Has your anger with Edsall changed to anger with UConn?

[huskymedic]

?Here's the KD story: http://www.ctpost.com/uconn/article...with-Edsall-changed-4795478.php?cmpid=twitter that he asked the BY to provide their thoughts on in this thread.

 

[junglehusky]

?Here's the KD story: http://www.ctpost.com/uconn/article...with-Edsall-changed-4795478.php?cmpid=twitter that he asked the BY to provide their thoughts on in this thread.

Hoooooo boy...

Lunn's take: "Say what you want about Edsall, but the program was his top-to-bottom. He put his stamp on it. Whether you liked his quote-unquote `vanilla offense,' whether you liked the defensive style of Todd Orlando and Hank Hughes, we won games, we produced and we very rarely ever lost a home game. And I wish we had that kind of leadership now."

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"I grew up in the shadow of Paul Pasqualoni, OK? I grew up in Rochester," Lunn said. "(At Syracuse) he recruited me out of high school with coach (George) DeLeone. For a long time*, I thought very highly of coach Pasqualoni, but I wanted to see a coach come in who was going to take UConn and (continue) a standard that had been set from coach Edsall...

*this is an artful way to get around not critizing P openly.

 

[sportsart]

Hoooooo boy...



*this is an artful way to get around not critizing P openly.

Um...that's openly criticizing and well.

 

[uconndogs]

This thing may be in the locker room....and by that I mean these coaches may not be connecting with the players. The physical nature of UCONN football was nowhere to be found last Thursday. Go back a watch the beginning of the game. Towson's first completion was to a WR who had to expose himself to go up an get the ball as Jones was closing on him. Jones made a poor wrap and tackle.

Butler or Branch or Gratz would have busted him up, Deleston would have broken him in half. When UCONN played Buffalo in the International Bowl, Buffalo went through defensive series in the second half where they had trouble keeping personnel on the field. UCONN's OL was constantly on LBs and DBs who physically were not up to the task.

I think there is a scenario where this team throws in the towel and if that happens I do think we might see a coaching change during the season. As much as I want these guys out of here I don't want to see that. But, my fear is that we could be heading to a very bad place.

 

[Dooley]

Spot on. All of it. Really enjoyed hearing Mourning and Lunn's perspectives as well. It's one thing to read about the biatching that we all do on a daily basis (and rightfully so), but it's quite another to read former players, who helped lay a solid foundation for UCONN football, voice their displeasure and frustration with the Pasqualoni era. I hope Warde reads this and thinks to make a few calls to former players to get their take, if he hasn't already. I bet what he hears will be ear opening.

 

[jdb50]

There was no edge to our team against Towson. The comparison between Edsall patrolling the sideline to PP is night and day. Hearing the former players observations really gets to the root of what's going on or not.

 

[ZooCougar]

Those guys nailed it. Probably another reason why I want Ambrose back. That mentality enabled the team to hit above its weight class.

 

[sportsart]

After reading that article I think I've figured out a big part of the problem. One is the continuity of coaching.

First you have the coaching change and right off the bat the offense was just not buying the raging tyrant that was calling the shots for the OL and for the offense as a whole.

Believe me when I say it wasn't just not liking him it was much worse....and while I'm sure the OL is trying to gut it out with GDL I don't think they'll ever be comfortable with him or his system. I'm pretty sure Foley's OL guys loved him.

While it's only been Don Brown and GDL who were replaced this year, an OC and DC change are big deals. Throw in the fact that 15 of 22 starters last week were Randy's guys...they just aren't buying the old men and their coaching style.

With all that in mind I doubt these guys can muster up enough to make this a winning season. They'll give it their all but when things get tough and loss after loss takes place it will be that much harder. IMHO I don't think they respect PP and GDL and won't take a bullet for them.

Say what you want about Randy his guys knew what to expect and by the time they graduated the vast majority respected him. They went to war for him and with him. That's the reason, I think, they rarely lost a game they were supposed to win.

The article makes me said actually and what Rob said really hit home. A team with no attitude won't go far.

 

[Fishy]

It's a little simplistic - I wasn't mad at Edsall and I'm not mad at P. I just don't want either guy working for UConn.

The Edsall teams certainly played harder and they tended to win ugly where P usually only manages to lose ugly - the worst thing you can say about P is that his brand of football makes Edsall's look like the Pony Express. The program also had a certain amount of weight and respect under Edsall that it doesn't have with P - I'm not sure if Edsall took it when he left or whether the media's relentless drumbeat on the Fiesta Bowl narrative negated it.

UConn also had a carrying card when Edsall was here - defense. It's taken P a few years, but if last week was an indicator, he's managed to kill that.

The most aggravating thing about Edsall was that some issues would just persist for years.

When DanO left, he took the forward pass with him. Edsall never managed to consistently put a passing threat on the field - MAC teams were flinging the ball downfield like mad men while UConn spent a half-decade needing divine intervention to convert third and longs.

And for how long were our special teams a complete abortion?

I'm not going to try to point out P's shortcomings - it can be encompassed under the heading "football".

But still, not mad - I'm pretty sure it's a game between two guys who are in the last 12 weeks of their current employment.

 

[TRest]

I can see Edsall squeezing out 6 wins and another year because Maryland is bankrupt. I haven't looked at the schedule, but we are win #3 and the Acc blows, so he can probably get there.

 

[noeynox]

Fishy, the forward pass is over rated in football.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

It's a little simplistic - I wasn't mad at Edsall and I'm not mad at P. I just don't want either guy working for UConn.

The Edsall teams certainly played harder and they tended to win ugly where P usually only manages to lose ugly - the worst thing you can say about P is that his brand of football makes Edsall's look like the Pony Express. The program also had a certain amount of weight and respect under Edsall that it doesn't have with P - I'm not sure if Edsall took it when he left or whether the media's relentless drumbeat on the Fiesta Bowl narrative negated it.

UConn also had a carrying card when Edsall was here - defense. It's taken P a few years, but if last week was an indicator, he's managed to kill that.

The most aggravating thing about Edsall was that some issues would just persist for years.

When DanO left, he took the forward pass with him. Edsall never managed to consistently put a passing threat on the field - MAC teams were flinging the ball downfield like mad men while UConn spent a half-decade needing divine intervention to convert third and longs.

And for how long were our special teams a complete abortion?

I'm not going to try to point out P's shortcomings - it can be encompassed under the heading "football".

But still, not mad - I'm pretty sure it's a game between two guys who are in the last 12 weeks of their current employment.

Spot on post - particularly the paragraphs highlighted in red. Paul Pasqualoni is suffocating the life out of this program.

 

[uconndogs]

It's a little simplistic - I wasn't mad at Edsall and I'm not mad at P. I just don't want either guy working for UConn.

The Edsall teams certainly played harder and they tended to win ugly where P usually only manages to lose ugly - the worst thing you can say about P is that his brand of football makes Edsall's look like the Pony Express. The program also had a certain amount of weight and respect under Edsall that it doesn't have with P - I'm not sure if Edsall took it when he left or whether the media's relentless drumbeat on the Fiesta Bowl narrative negated it.

UConn also had a carrying card when Edsall was here - defense. It's taken P a few years, but if last week was an indicator, he's managed to kill that.

The most aggravating thing about Edsall was that some issues would just persist for years.

When DanO left, he took the forward pass with him. Edsall never managed to consistently put a passing threat on the field - MAC teams were flinging the ball downfield like mad men while UConn spent a half-decade needing divine intervention to convert third and longs.

And for how long were our special teams a complete abortion?

I'm not going to try to point out P's shortcomings - it can be encompassed under the heading "football".

But still, not mad - I'm pretty sure it's a game between two guys who are in the last 12 weeks of their current employment.

Edsall may have the Maryland program on an upward trojectory, too early to tell. If he does, he may do just fine down there. P hasn't shown even the smallest sign of knowing how to win - ulgly or otherwise. There is no doubt in my mind that Edsall would have had this program in bowl games the last two seasons, and we would still have a running game and a defense that doesn't give up 30+ points to Towson.

 

[huskymedic]

Your thoughts on Edsall Week?
http://blog.ctnews.com/uconnfootball/2013/09/10/your-thoughts-on-edsall-week/

 

[Palatine]

Stupid premise for an article. Edsall left with no class. That isn't the fan base's problem. It's Edsall's.

And in the interim, Edsall has fallen flat on his face. That seems a bit like Karma.

UConn is down, it should be a tough year. We'll survive.

 

[Stinger92860]

Stupid premise for an article. Edsall left with no class. That isn't the fan base's problem. It's Edsall's.

And in the interim, Edsall has fallen flat on his face. That seems a bit like Karma.

UConn is down, it should be a tough year. We'll survive.

IMHO, only with a change in leadership will we survive. It may a few years to recover from this disaster.

 

[SubbaBub]

My thoughts? We have bigger problems. While it would have been nice to razz the guy as we moved on without him, I'll take any W and look to Michigan week.

 

[gioff23]

I'm not sure why I'll wade in to this cess pool, as folks have conclusions and simply looks for nuggets of information to reinforce them, but ......

I was a fan of HCRE right up until the end. But as italians say, he is dead to me. A guy that built up the program and took it thru its lowest moment, did a 180 and left in the most classless manner possible. When the program was on the biggest stage and needed to change the mass opinion the media was feeding, he had checked out and was interviewing for another job. Thanks for the memories, good luck at the new gig.

I was skeptical when P was hired, but as a fan I was hopeful he could regian the mojo of SU in the mid-90s and continue the trajectory of the program. While it seems like the quality of player is improving through recruiting, this is a results-oriented business and the results here are dismal. It's not 10-15. It's simply not a good product to watch - the energy on the field and in the stands sucks, the home field advantage is gone - the mojo is gone. I'm not sure what the purpose of making a change before YE would be, but a change is a coming.

However, if guys on a scholly and a dream of an NFL ticket are gutting it out and not putting their necks on the line for the school or the staff, then sit down, take off the jersey and write a check (for your tuition), tomorrow. You don't like your boss, well, guess what, welcome to the real world you spoiled son of a b*. Welcome to the world where companies change direction, new folks get brought in and you adapt, or move on. You don't like a guy because he yells - oh you'll be a star in the NFL.

And stop about the D - it was passive, on its heels and timid last week. It was embarrassing. One can only hope pride will take over and leave them wanting them to take out their agression against a good opponent this week. But the D we have seen the last 2 years was better than any Edsall ever fielded. I've been scolded several times for complaining that the D cost us a bowl appearance in '12 (mack getting burned vs NC ST and Temple; WMU). Was it Don Brown, the players, both? Maybe the D was better able to adapt to an old guy yelling than the O?

And as for survival, i am pretty confident the program will survive. A bit dramatic, no?

In the end, change can't come soon enough. HCRE, who I truly believe will be at MD for a decade and be successful, had given up on the belief UConn could get to the next level before he ever stepped on to the turf at the Fiesta Bowl. Now, we have a fanbase that has given up on the team and feels we cant get to the next level w/this staff. We need to shake the etch-a-sketch and start over. The question is which month in 12 it will happen, what change will be brought in, and what message will UConn start sending to its fanbase and the P% as to its commitment to playing D1 football.