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Calipari sure got a lot of credit last year, well he should get a lot of the blame this year, the team looks absolutely clueless.
 
They just cared less than RM. Remember us in the NIT recently, we didn't want to be there either. It's feast or famine with their approach. I would hate following a program with a new team every year.
 
How about Calipari throwing some of his players under the bus? The creep should take some responsibility for the endless disappointments this year for their basketball team instead of insinuating that acouple of players "almost hijacked" the program. You were thoroughly outcoached, outsmarted in many of their games and failed to connect, motivate, and improve his players yet in his puny mind its the fault of his players alone. He is a joke of a coach and eventually his ponzi scheme will fail and the charade will be exposed.
 
Calipari wound up and flung his team under the bus at the post-game presser.

Not his fault they lost this year...he was just trying to "save" people. mushroom cap.

"We deserved to be where we are. We deserved to be at Robert Morris," Calipari said. "If we'd have won the game at the buzzer, it would have been a shame … because we didn't deserve to win the game."​
"The stuff I had to accept this year, the program almost got hijacked," Calipari said. "Never in my career have I surrendered in any way to any team, and I did at times this year - to try to save guys, to try to help guys - and it never works."​
 
UConn2SF said:
How about Calipari throwing some of his players under the bus? The creep should take some responsibility for the endless disappointments this year for their basketball team instead of insinuating that acouple of players "almost hijacked" the program. You were thoroughly outcoached, outsmarted in many of their games and failed to connect, motivate, and improve his players yet in his puny mind its the fault of his players alone. He is a joke of a coach and eventually his ponzi scheme will fail and the charade will be exposed.
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He will be getting his facetime on ESPN, CBS, Tru TV by next week, he loves the cameras to much not too.
 
In my opinion this shows that the valuation of college coaching is in fact 2 dimensional - in many ways. Is recruiting a measure of a coach's success? The word coach does not imply this - but it certainly is the reality. There is recruiting and the ability to get the best players (via the school's history, past success, fan base, and personalty and salesmanship of the coach) vs the art of X's and O's and developing the players into a team..

Does VCU , Wisconsin, or Marquette (BUZZ is such a good coach) have better players than KU? NO.. The SEC sucks so is Coach CAL a good coach? I say not and there is a long list of good recruiters who underachieve as coaches. Yet there are coaches who constantly win, despite there recruiting raking are successful.

There are 10 coaches I can name that if they had the same 12 players that Cal had at KU this year (IN THAT CONFERENCE) would be a 5 seed. and KO is one of them
 
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Fishy said:
Calipari wound up and flung his team under the bus at the post-game presser.

Not his fault they lost this year...he was just trying to "save" people. mushroom cap.

"We deserved to be where we are. We deserved to be at Robert Morris," Calipari said. "If we'd have won the game at the buzzer, it would have been a shame … because we didn't deserve to win the game."​
"The stuff I had to accept this year, the program almost got hijacked," Calipari said. "Never in my career have I surrendered in any way to any team, and I did at times this year - to try to save guys, to try to help guys - and it never works."​
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He just provided cover for pushing several of these guys out before next years team arrives... And as much as I hate to admit it, their recruiting class coming in is so good, they might win it all again in spite of Calipari.
 
eos91 said:
"He just provided cover for pushing several of theses guys out"

right on

He surrenders to all of his recent teams.Had he not surrendered to Demarcus Cousins he would be dead right now
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While I agree teams do not get motivated to play if they believe they should be in the big dance as Lord said, he didn't do a heck of a lot of coaching this year with this crew. While they were talented they were not as highly recognized as last years rookies so he needed to prove he could coach a little without all the McD studs.....he didn't.

Listen the guy can coach but the question now is how overrated is he as a coach?
 
bfair said:
In my opinion this shows that the valuation of college coaching is in fact 2 dimensional - in many ways. Is recruiting a measure of a coach's success? The word coach does not imply this - but it certainly is the reality. There is recruiting and the ability to get the best players (via the school's history, past success, fan base, and personalty and salesmanship of the coach) vs the art of X's and O's and developing the players into a team..

Does VCU , Wisconsin, or Marquette (BUZZ is such a good coach) have better players than KU? NO.. The SEC sucks so is Coach CAL a good coach? I say not and there is a long list of good recruiters who underachieve as coaches. Yet there are coaches who consintantly, despite there recruiting raking are successful.

There are 10 coaches I can name that if they had the same 12 players that Cal had at KU this year (IN THAT CONFERENCE) would be a 5 seed. and KO is one of them
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UK
 
The Squid being the Squid- the only thing different is the number of Ws or lack thereof.
 
Well the good news is this replaces 2012 as Exhibit A in the evidence file regarding is "one-and-done" the new wave of college basketball success. If a substantial amount of his team leaves without the draft success of 2012, then he's under a lot of pressure to right the ship in 2014. Another lost season next year and the new formula for success is likely broken for good.

Honestly, how can recruits commit to play for the guy knowing that he's so willing to toss them to the wolves? Calipari was a better coach when he simply provided hookers and necklaces but stayed quiet.
 
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Squid definitely lost some sheen this year. That said, I'm not sure R. Lee Ermey could've put fight into the squad Cal recruited. Chalk that up to entitlement, IMO.

Not that we haven't seen some underachieving teams ourselves. Nothing quite this bad given the expectations on UK, but at least one UConn team in the past 10 years comes to mind for just not quite getting the 'team' concept and lacking inner fortitude. Which is also why what KO & UConn did this year was so damned impressive. And fun.
 
Their freshmen last night said they were all coming back (minus Noel of course). However, they have 6 signees and Randel announces today which could be 7 with them still recruiting Wiggins.

They have 2 seniors on scholarship and Noel is definitely gone. That is 3 openings. That means at least 3 guys will be forced into the pros or forced out of the program so Cal can make room for his one and doners. Very sad.
 
Just in case, anyone though talent alone wins games. Squid showed how dependent he is on cheati.., I mean, recruiting.

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Well I hope other coaches will take and use his words on the recruiting trail.
 
Kitaman said:
Well I hope other coaches will take and use his words on the recruiting trail.
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Agreed. Here's the problem--all these kids have been told how great they are, the don't imagine they're the next Ryan Harrow, but the next Rose/Wall/Knight, etc.
 
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I hope they all come back. Calipari admitted that he couldn't coach his current group this year, when they all played 30 min per game. What's going to happen when these guys become the scout team next year?
 
Julius Randel to UK. Their incoming class is absolutely incredible.
 
only thing left now is to pray that Wiggins goes elsewhere
 
Wait, so Calipari recruits these high school kids to play for his team and when they're not some of the best players in the country their Freshman year he calls them uncoachable and pushes them out the door? What a ducking .
 
As a sidenote, is there anyone hurt more than what Calipari is doing recruiting wise than Roy Williams? It seemed like just a few years ago all these guys would've been goint to UNC, now UK is the obvious clear choice if you're ranked #1 or #2 at your position.
 
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I can't wait for next year. Julius Randle just committed, so it's looking like they're going to have Randle, Marcus Lee, Dakari Johnson, Derek Willis, Wiltjer, Cauley-Stein, and Poythress all competing for front-court minutes. Something has to give because if it doesn't I don't think there is a coach alive who could keep that locker room from becoming broken. If Wiggins ends up committing to UK it'll be even more fun to watch.
 
Its a monster he's created. Every recruit is expected to play in the NBA. The problem he has is that each kid is out to prove that they are NBA ready. You need the ball to do that and one ball among 7 kids is not enough.

I don't see a solution because its hard for those kids to think team ball when they are planning to be there for one year. This is when you need the Taliek Browns, Neils Giffey, Kevin Freemens, etc.. blended in. Without team and role players its disastrous. He did it last year but there were upperclassmen on that team, which brings up another point without veterans on any team there is potential for mayhem. The Squid may be putting fannies in the seats and appeasing the rabid fan base but I don't see another trophy for years.

Lastly these kids don't know how to lose, or specifically lose a lot. Heads will drop, body language gets poor and disappointed faces makes a tense locker room.

It sounded nice, fancy and thrilling in the beginning but the reality is it doesn't work. In college you only need two maybe three stars to go the distance. But the supporting cast makes the team really successful. This is the UConn recipe for success.
 
From a friend who is a huge UK fan:

Two are leaving--Julius Mays who was a one year transfer from Wright State and a walk on who never played.

Nerlens will probably go Pro since he is picked to go in the top 5----If he drops below 10 he will come back. Time will tell.

All the other three Freshman will return guaranteed. Ryan Harrow our point guard will sit down with John and I am sure Cal will tell him if he wants to play it would be in his best interest to transfer, but Calipari will keep him if he decides to stay. There will be enough scholarships to cover incoming class. 2 other players on this years team who held scholarships, held Academic Scholarships prior till this year and can go back to that status if athletic scholarship are needed.

Matt Dougherty of ESPN just stated the loss of Noel was critical. and if he had been playing they would have been at Sweet 16 or better..

Bad news --Julius Randle Top Power Forward just announced on ESPN he is going
to Kentucky

So far The squid has recruited

The Harrison Twins both 6'5 Guards, one a point Guard and the other a shooting
Guard-- both ranked number one at there position. Considering all player ratings
they are #3 and #5

Julius Randle 6'9 Power Forward #1 at his position and 6th overall

James Young 6'7 small forward #1 at his position and 7th overall

Marcus Lee 6'10 Center #2 at his position 11th overall

Derek Willis 6'9 small forward Mr. KY Basketball 28th overall

Still waiting on Andrew Wiggins # 1 overall

The Squid will prove you wrong
 
Storrsbred said:
From a friend who is a huge UK fan:

Two are leaving--Julius Mays who was a one year transfer from Wright State and a walk on who never played.

Nerlens will probably go Pro since he is picked to go in the top 5----If he drops below 10 he will come back. Time will tell.

All the other three Freshman will return guaranteed. Ryan Harrow our point guard will sit down with John and I am sure Cal will tell him if he wants to play it would be in his best interest to transfer, but Calipari will keep him if he decides to stay. There will be enough scholarships to cover incoming class. 2 other players on this years team who held scholarships, held Academic Scholarships prior till this year and can go back to that status if athletic scholarship are needed.

Matt Dougherty of ESPN just stated the loss of Noel was critical. and if he had been playing they would have been at Sweet 16 or better..

Bad news --Julius Randle Top Power Forward just announced on ESPN he is going
to Kentucky

So far The squid has recruited

The Harrison Twins both 6'5 Guards, one a point Guard and the other a shooting
Guard-- both ranked number one at there position. Considering all player ratings
they are #3 and #5

Julius Randle 6'9 Power Forward #1 at his position and 6th overall

James Young 6'7 small forward #1 at his position and 7th overall

Marcus Lee 6'10 Center #2 at his position 11th overall

Derek Willis 6'9 small forward Mr. KY Basketball 28th overall

Still waiting on Andrew Wiggins # 1 overall

The Squid will prove you wrong
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I could win with that team.......and I could also pi** off some kids too who expect to play a lot......there has to be some pretty good cash to get kids to see past this BS and share time......;)
 
I don't care what they said last night but there is no chance proytheus and cauley-stein are back next year.
 
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