There was a small window where the Big 10 would be interested in two mediocre (or worse) athletic programs like these two, and Rutgers was smart enough to say yes. To Maryland’s credit, they ended up paying a big exit fee to the ACC (at least $31 million), which was obviously worth it.
Here is an article about how Tim Pernetti got Rutgers into the Big 10.
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How Rutgers crashed the Big Ten: The inside story 10 years later
Rutgers was invited to join the Big Ten 10 years ago, a transformative moment for the university that many believed would never happen.www.nj.com
In 2022, Rutgers' research activity of more than $688,000 ranked #40 in the nation. In the same year, #89 UConn's research activity amounted to a bit more than $280,000, a few hundred bucks less than that of #88 Mississippi State. Want to compare endowments? Rutgers' is about $1.98 billion. UConn's, at $600 million, is less than a third of that. In USN&WR ranking of national universities, Rutgers is #40 and UConn is #58. Are you starting to see a pattern here?Hey all,
just curious (but also venting in frustration) - was/is rutgers more worthy than us to be at the big-boys table?
I am asking for the specifics surrounding the story of Rutgers - the more "complex" dynamics that made them jump out over, say.... a UConn.
I know the obvious things about the rutgers value proposition to B1G, if you can even call it that:
But i am also aware of:
- NY TV market (irrelevant IMO, we stream anyway)
- fine "enough" academic school (they do some good research there espcially with Woody Johnson support - overall not bad but def not great - i'd say no better than uconn and certainly nothing special in the B1G compared to the research output by Michigan, Ohio State, etc. - they don't compare to those schools at all, IMO)
idk... all of this just makes no sense. it can't just be the NY tv market thing... why in the world is Rutgers safely eating the filet mignon, while we're flailing in the wind and Jim Mora had to practically cry in a press conference to get some money for players.
- mediocre basketball
- mediocre football (better than us sure, but srsly would we be worse than them had we gotten in?)
- honestly, they feel almost like a twin to us in football - Greg Schiano had a glory days run, got ray rice for a bit, leveraged that to go to a "better" job (NFL), failed miserably there, and then came back to be a non-factor in his team's new league... sound familiar?
- historical big east peer of ours - did we do any worse than them at during BE football days?
My unsolicited opinion - they deserve to be in B1G just about as much as we do - which is 0%. - is there a risk actually valuable B1G schools will kick them out either thru a vote or just paying them unacceptably less in a future distrubition deal? sry if this is a re-run of past talks, just curious about their particular situation.
In 2022, Rutgers' research activity of more than $688,000 ranked #40 in the nation. In the same year, #89 UConn's research activity amounted to a bit more than $280,000, a few hundred bucks less than that of #88 Mississippi State. Want to compare endowments? Rutgers' is about $1.98 billion. UConn's, at $600 million, is less than a third of that. In USN&WR ranking of national universities, Rutgers is #40 and UConn is #58. Are you starting to see a pattern here?
UConn is a fine school. Jealously trying to denigrate another institution isn't going to make UConn better.
Now do sports. The thing that is relevant here.In 2022, Rutgers' research activity of more than $688,000 ranked #40 in the nation. In the same year, #89 UConn's research activity amounted to a bit more than $280,000, a few hundred bucks less than that of #88 Mississippi State. Want to compare endowments? Rutgers' is about $1.98 billion. UConn's, at $600 million, is less than a third of that. In USN&WR ranking of national universities, Rutgers is #40 and UConn is #58. Are you starting to see a pattern here?
UConn is a fine school. Jealously trying to denigrate another institution isn't going to make UConn better.
Aw, did I hurt your feelings? Re-read my post. I said nothing negative about UConn. I just stated facts counter to the original poster's contention that Rutgers is somehow undeserving.This is a UConn board, and you have not posted anything remotely positive about UConn in a long time. You are welcome to leave if any pro-UConn posts upset you.
If only sports are relevant here, then why did the original poster bring up academics and research activity? I sure as hell didn't.Now do sports. The thing that is relevant here.
appreciate the passion, and the data/research (really, not sarcastic). I am certainly not jealous of Rutgers, though i could see how it seems that way.In 2022, Rutgers' research activity of more than $688,000 ranked #40 in the nation. In the same year, #89 UConn's research activity amounted to a bit more than $280,000, a few hundred bucks less than that of #88 Mississippi State. Want to compare endowments? Rutgers' is about $1.98 billion. UConn's, at $600 million, is less than a third of that. In USN&WR ranking of national universities, Rutgers is #40 and UConn is #58. Are you starting to see a pattern here?
UConn is a fine school. Jealously trying to denigrate another institution isn't going to make UConn better.
However, the post is accurate and germane.This is a UConn board, and you have not posted anything remotely positive about UConn in a long time. You are welcome to leave if any pro-UConn posts upset you.
Nelson's garden-state jealousy of Rutgers rears it's ugly head again. Go Pirates!This is a UConn board, and you have not posted anything remotely positive about UConn in a long time. You are welcome to leave if any pro-UConn posts upset you.
Why the hell is anyone carrying water for Rutgers on a UConn board? I get the no-life BCU fans here because it makes them feel special, but Rutgers?Nelson's garden-state jealousy of Rutgers rears it's ugly head again. Go Pirates!