OT: Juan So-So?

[Chuck]

As a Yankee fan this is just beautiful. Another example of how greed and ego can impact everyone, even a player who appearers to have generational talent.

Or it could just be what happens when you play for the Mets. I mean they have two World Series titles. One was labeled a miracle ( think about that it took a miracle for them to win), the other was the miracle of the bouncing ball through Buckner’s legs. Yup he chose a team that is doomed to mediocrity. Mets and Knicks are a like a wart on what should be the greatest sports town in the country.

Personally, I hope it continues and he becomes so unhappy that Cohen realizes how big a mistake he made in signing him. No matter what story is true:

The one that a game suite for his family was the decider and now that has morphed into social media expanding on that and suggesting Soto personally wanted to go back to the Yankees but his family wanted him to accept the Mets offer. Guess the fam decided they would rather be treated to a suite every home game regardless if it was the best decision for their family member.

He could have been a Yankee for life and although they don’t win it all as much as they used too, look at the numbers they make the playoffs every year. The Mets not so much.

Right now I take Freid, Goldschmidt and Bellinger over Soto every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

I'm a lifelong Yankee fan. If I were betting on organizational success over the next 20 years, I'd take the Mets over the Yankees. The Steinbrenners are trying to make money on the Yankees. Cohen is trying to win. The Yankees will be fine, but the years of the Mets struggling are probably over. And I like Citi Field better than Yankee Stadium.

I won't switch allegiances, but the Mets are in a good position. The best part is that Met fans used to love saying that the "Yankees are everything that is wrong with baseball," and "how does it feel to know you have to buy your championships?" Now they are the poster team for buying success along with the Dodgers.

Edited to add: Soto owed the Yankees nothing. He was a rental and both he and the Yankees knew that.

 

[Deepster]

I'm a lifelong Yankee fan. If I were betting on organizational success over the next 20 years, I'd take the Mets over the Yankees. The Steinbrenners are trying to make money on the Yankees. Cohen is trying to win. The Yankees will be fine, but the years of the Mets struggling are probably over. And I like Citi Field better than Yankee Stadium.

I won't switch allegiances, but the Mets are in a good position. The best part is that Met fans used to love saying that the "Yankees are everything that is wrong with baseball," and "how does it feel to know you have to buy your championships?" Now they are the poster team for buying success along with the Dodgers.

Edited to add: Soto owed the Yankees nothing. He was a rental and both he and the Yankees knew that.

Here's an interesting chart to your point on Cohen's spending. He's spending a lot and he's making the least amount for what he spends, meaning he's spending to build a winner not to line his pockets.

 

[Scoe]

Not a single Mets fan is panicking. Every complaint you see is from a Yankees fan or someone telling Mets fans they need to be concerned

The contract comes with the territory, your under a microscope every day, for anything you do or don't do. Arod dealt with media backlash every day and even got hatred from Yankee fans, there's still Yankee fans to this day who don't accept him as a Yankee even though he won them a World Series and won 2 MVPs.

I would've liked Soto on the Yankees of course I think a franchise like the Yankees being on a budget is crap but since they are I'm good with Fried, Dominguez and Rice.

 

[Scoe]

I'm a lifelong Yankee fan. If I were betting on organizational success over the next 20 years, I'd take the Mets over the Yankees. The Steinbrenners are trying to make money on the Yankees. Cohen is trying to win. The Yankees will be fine, but the years of the Mets struggling are probably over. And I like Citi Field better than Yankee Stadium.

I won't switch allegiances, but the Mets are in a good position. The best part is that Met fans used to love saying that the "Yankees are everything that is wrong with baseball," and "how does it feel to know you have to buy your championships?" Now they are the poster team for buying success along with the Dodgers.

Edited to add: Soto owed the Yankees nothing. He was a rental and both he and the Yankees knew that.

Soto leaving whatever, I was far more pissed Hal never signed Bryce Harper and he didn't even go all in last year with Soto as a rental. Team ignored their fundamentals and it did cost them a World Series last year.

 

[Hunt for 7]

LOL. The YANKEES EAT MOST YEARS!!!! Grrr! Roar!!! I remember a time when people actually did look at the Yankees with awe and were intimidated by their great teams. Now you're fighting on a Mets thread that you made the playoffs more than the Red Sox. Pathetic.

During the span you mention, the Yankees ate wild card losses in 2 of those years and lost in the first round in another 6 of those years. And Houston owned them sending them to Cancun on 4 different occasions. No one is afraid of the pinstripes anymore. Great for your "you can't win if you don't play" line. Guess what? You played a lot and didn't win. No one cares.

I can't wait for Soto to be MVP and the Mets to win a ring with him. Just to rub it in your sad whiny little faces.

Why did you leave out the cheating that the Astros used to beat the Yankees. They felt they had to cheat and we can only prove it for that one year. Who really knows how much it happened. He was sitting on slider when no one was sitting on Chapman’s slider no one and Chapman knew it as soon as he hit the ball. He had that yeah right look on his face like all of us have had toward the refs in most UConn games.



But as we have said about Slick Rick and the Squid once a cheater always a cheater…..

 

[Scoe]

Why did you leave out the cheating that the Astros used to beat the Yankees. They felt they had to cheat and we can only prove it for that one year. Who really knows how much it happened. He was sitting on slider when no one was sitting on Chapman’s slider no one and Chapman knew it as soon as he hit the ball. He had that yeah right look on his face like all of us have had toward the refs in most UConn games.



But as we have said about Slick Rick and the Squid once a cheater always a cheater…..

No doubt what the Astros did was shameful, but it's been how many years now and the Yankees have failed to show up in the postseason since. The Nationals and Braves beat the Astros in the World Series. The excuses by Hal and Cashman are pathetic.

Regarding Soto I do think it makes the Yankees a bit hungrier without Soto, I'm not gonna predict anything but how much hungrier were the Redsox after they didn't get Arod, in 2004, those contracts are a burden and as a fan it's tiring to constantly be defending it.

 

[superjohn]

His prime is going to last about two more seasons.

Lots of Mets fans whistling past the graveyard here - y’all know how this is gonna go for you. Just be honest with yourselves and it will be a lot easier to deal when the time comes.

You gave Edgar Martinez Lite three-quarters of a billion dollars.

I'm sure his prime will last a lot longer than that but what is his prime supposed to look like? He's been in the league 8 seasons now and he doesn't hit for average. It's nice that he has a great eye and some pop but for a dude who is strictly a batter/hitter and getting paid $765 million over 15 seasons you would hope he would hit the ball better than he does.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Says the guy on the Mets thread trying to puff his chest out. "He could have been a Yankee for life!!!!" LOL. So sad.

I'm not saying that and I've never said that.

I also never knocked someone else's team for only winning one title in twenty five years if I would be willing to give my eye teeth to be able to say my team won a title within the past twenty five years.

Soto is a very good player. Hopefully he'll have a handful of seasons for the Mets where he comes somewhat close to earning what they're paying him.

 

[Waquoit]

Here's an interesting chart to your point on Cohen's spending. He's spending a lot and he's making the least amount for what he spends, meaning he's spending to build a winner not to line his pockets.

Most importantly, Cohen spent to get a real pro to run the front office. The Mets are in good hands. Well-run and spending money. The anti-Red Sox.

 

[Deepster]

Why did you leave out the cheating that the Astros used to beat the Yankees. They felt they had to cheat and we can only prove it for that one year. Who really knows how much it happened. He was sitting on slider when no one was sitting on Chapman’s slider no one and Chapman knew it as soon as he hit the ball. He had that yeah right look on his face like all of us have had toward the refs in most UConn games.



But as we have said about Slick Rick and the Squid once a cheater always a cheater…..

Someone needs a waaaahmbulance!

Waaaaah waah. Waaaaah wah!

 

[Hunt for 7]

Someone needs a waaaahmbulance!

Waaaaah waah. Waaaaah wah!

Just facts not rhetoric. At least Yankee fans have hope 80% of the time……Mets let’s see if you win one with him. It’s not starting out so great. But crying you can really create and live in your own narrative better than most.

Yankee hating is a thing that always has been but no other team puts fans in opposing ballparks like the Yankees. The overall mystique may not be what it once was but they have endured worst slumps.

Eventually, they will get it right and win a few world series over a 4 or 5 year span. Maybe it starts this year. Could be not signing him reversed the curse that was put on us when we stole AROD from the alter of Boston fans.

I am good Deep, not crying because for sure my team will be playing during the second week of October. Yeah would like to see them win number 28 and it will happen because math is just on the side of the team that makes the playoffs 80% of the time.

Looking forward to going to Cincinnati in late June to watch three Yankee games. Even in Cincy the price of tickets is twice as high on the after market to go see that washed up franchise. Most franchises wish they were that passé. Want to see a washed up franchise you should start in Foxboro.

 

[Deepster]

Just facts not rhetoric. At least Yankee fans have hope 80% of the time……Mets let’s see if you win one with him. It’s not starting out so great. But crying you can really create and live in your own narrative better than most.

Yankee hating is a thing that always has been but no other team puts fans in opposing ballparks like the Yankees. The overall mystique may not be what it once was but they have endured worst slumps.

Eventually, they will get it right and win a few world series over a 4 or 5 year span. Maybe it starts this year. Could be not signing him reversed the curse that was put on us when we stole AROD from the alter of Boston fans.

I am good Deep, not crying because for sure my team will be playing during the second week of October. Yeah would like to see them win number 28 and it will happen because math is just on the side of the team that makes the playoffs 80% of the time.

Looking forward to going to Cincinnati in late June to watch three Yankee games. Even in Cincy the price of tickets is twice as high on the after market to go see that washed up franchise. Most franchises wish they were that passé. Want to see a washed up franchise you should start in Foxboro.

What’s not starting out so great? They have the second best record in the NL right now?

And getting in the playoffs does not mathematically translate to rings. Just ask the Braves. From 2000-2025 they won their division 13 times with one WS ring.

 

[Deepster]

Yankee hating is a thing that always has been but no other team puts fans in opposing ballparks like the Yankees. The overall mystique may not be what it once was but they have endured worst slumps.

Looking forward to going to Cincinnati in late June to watch three Yankee games. Even in Cincy the price of tickets is twice as high on the after market to go see that washed up franchise. Most franchises wish they were that passé. Want to see a washed up franchise you should start in Foxboro.

Congrats on getting smoked by the Savannah Bananas.

 

[Hunt for 7]

Ok let’s use irrelevant comps why not. Sure you can always get into a MLB game cheap by sitting in the last row of the left or right field stands. Try using the price of a decent seat not nosebleed section. Anyway we have beaten the Mets this year twice as much as they have beaten us. That there stat has as much merit as what you posted.

They have everyone on the team making excuses for him. The guy is not even running all the way to first base. Who knows maybe he is just sandbagging so he can be the biggest story of the second half.

But when a player is not running out ground balls or turning doubles into singles just because he is too good to run call Houston, cuz “we have a problem”

 

[Deepster]

Ok let’s use irrelevant comps why not. Sure you can always get into a MLB game cheap by sitting in the last row of the left or right field stands. Try using the price of a decent seat not nosebleed section. Anyway we have beaten the Mets this year twice as much as they have beaten us. That there stat has as much merit as what you posted.

They have everyone on the team making excuses for him. The guy is not even running all the way to first base. Who knows maybe he is just sandbagging so he can be the biggest story of the second half.

But when a player is not running out ground balls or turning doubles into singles just because he is too good to run call Houston, cuz “we have a problem”

I don't think you read the post.

The lowest priced ticket for the ridiculous baseball clowns, the Savannah Bananas, is 10x higher than the lowest ticket for the big draw Yankees.

Maybe people just like seeing a guy on stilts hit a baseball more than staring in awe at the mighty Aaron Judge?