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Joyner Holmes out for Texas until December

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ESPN: Joyner Holmes will not be enrolled at @TexasWBB during fall 2017 semester due to university violation. She can rejo… twitter.com/i/web/status/8…
 
What the?!?

Okay dirt diggers, what really happen here.
 
I don't really have an interest in knowing what the infraction was, but I am pleased that the school is following through with a consequence.

I'd be even more pleased if schools like Texas followed through on violations committed by star football players.
 
I would guess something academic. Though something disciplinary also possible.
 
I don't really have an interest in knowing what the infraction was, but I am pleased that the school is following through with a consequence.

I'd be even more pleased if schools like Texas followed through on violations committed by star football players.

That's never going to happen. Sadly, the bottom line is that sports like football make the schools way too much money.
 
I'm sorry to hear this. She's really a lot of fun to watch. McCarty's also fun, but it won't be the same without Holmes.
 
I haven't heard of a punishment like this before, where the student doesn't even enroll in the school for a semester.
 
I haven't heard of a punishment like this before, where the student doesn't even enroll in the school for a semester.
I have - I don't want to dredge up the name, but there was a Rutgers player who was put out of school - it was academics. She did what she needed to do and returned the following semester, returned to the team, and eventually went on to become a police officer I believe.
 
I mean, if she's not enrolled for the fall semester, and academics is the cause, the only way really to mitigate that academic problem is through remedial courses. Am I wrong in this? Which could also mean she was scheduled to take classes this summer to take care of previous issues and perhaps failed to take these classes. Perhaps?
 
I mean, if she's not enrolled for the fall semester, and academics is the cause, the only way really to mitigate that academic problem is through remedial courses. Am I wrong in this? Which could also mean she was scheduled to take classes this summer to take care of previous issues and perhaps failed to take these classes. Perhaps?

What does Nan say about Speculation on Kids ---Geeezzzzz! (what I usually got)
 
I would guess something academic. Though something disciplinary also possible.

Nope, the announcement calls it "due to a university violation." Low grades are not a "university violation." Further, Holmes writes, "I take full responsibility for my mistakes and I am disappointed in my actions. I understand what a great privilege it is to be a student-athlete at The University of Texas and that is not something I take lightly."

Taking responsibility for one's "actions" is entirely different from not maintaining a minimum GPA.

Very sorry to read this. She is a rare talent. Hope things work out for her. Though her team is a rival of UConn's, no one wants to see any of these young ladies suffer, or see their careers suffer. Young people make lots of mistakes. It's why Governor Malloy in Connecticut has proposed prosecuting young people up to and including the age of 21 as juveniles. Their brains simply aren't fully formed yet, and they suffer from lack of impulse control. Have no idea what the university violation was for this young lady, but as a society we need to show leniency and understanding toward youth.
 
I think she's a very talented player. It's unfortunate for her, the team, and the fans. I'd love to know the reason - very different if it was academic vs. disciplinary. Based on her comments, it sounds more disciplinary than academic, but we likely will never know. Gotta love her attitude in taking responsibility for her actions...

I take full responsibility for my mistakes and I am disappointed in my actions,” Holmes said in a statement. “I understand what a great privilege it is to be a student-athlete at the University of Texas and that is not something I take lightly. I am committed to using this time to focus on myself, academics and improving as a basketball player. I am looking forward to returning in December to help our team reach our goals on the court.
 
What does Nan say about Speculation on Kids ---Geeezzzzz! (what I usually got)
Harmful speculation is against the rules. In the past, we would have had people tossing out things like "she probably got arrested/pregnant/etc" without a shred of evidence - that is harmful speculation. But tossing around the possible reasons for missing the fall semester is not.
 
I mean, if she's not enrolled for the fall semester, and academics is the cause, the only way really to mitigate that academic problem is through remedial courses. Am I wrong in this? Which could also mean she was scheduled to take classes this summer to take care of previous issues and perhaps failed to take these classes. Perhaps?

I am purely speculating here, but she wouldn't get kicked out of school for academic problems unless it was something like cheating or plagiarism. I think she would be ruled academically ineligible before she was kicked out simply for poor grades.
 
I haven't heard of a punishment like this before, where the student doesn't even enroll in the school for a semester.
Kendall Cooper at Duke went through the same thing not enrolled for an entire semester of her Junior season.
 
If you are suspended from participating in your athletic program is your scholarship also suspended? Does the suspension period count against your eligibility?
 
If you are suspended from participating in your athletic program is your scholarship also suspended? Does the suspension period count against your eligibility?
1) Not usually. In this case not enrolled means no scholarship.
2) Yes. The games a player is not enrolled cannot be recovered. So Joyner Holmes will not get an extra semester to play.
 

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