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2024 Recruiting: Jordan Derkack (Merrimack Transfer)

Back to Derkack;
  • does he play good team D?
  • does he pass well?
  • is he a smart player?
  • does he have the dog in him?
He shoots +55% from the two on high usage- I'm sure Luke can work with that.
I'm curious what people who have watched full games think of his athletic abilities.
 
Samoo said:
Back to Derkack;
  • does he play good team D?
  • does he pass well?
  • is he a smart player?
  • does he have the dog in him?
He shoots +55% from the two on high usage- I'm sure Luke can work with that.
I'm curious what people who have watched full games think of his athletic abilities.
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Very good athlete for the Merrimack level. Will be average here in terms of pure athleticism. Better than Cam and Alex. Probably a little worse than Stewart.
 
husky429 said:
They were both 4* players in high school. Basically the same level recruit. Neither is an NBA prospect. Junior Hass and Freshman Solo are similar players (not very good at anything, undersized, good athletes). Solo a better leaper but Hass more skilled.

Hurley quotes are coach speak. Meaningless. It's PR not gospel. He says the same ish every season and our entire back court is transfers.
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Theres a huge range of difference between 4*s. But what your high school ranking is doesnt determine your absolute viability as an NBA prospect. Solo can develop into an NBA prospect. He has the frame and physicality if he develops his skills and game to be an NBA prospect
 
Samoo said:
Back to Derkack;
  • does he play good team D?
  • does he pass well?
  • is he a smart player?
  • does he have the dog in him?
He shoots +55% from the two on high usage- I'm sure Luke can work with that.
I'm curious what people who have watched full games think of his athletic abilities.
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He's a lot like Shaq...

 
KemBuckets21 said:
Assuming we land McNeeley is a pretty bold leap. Seems like we should assume KU leads until we hear he’s visiting other schools.

Also Samson is maximized in his role as a 16-18 minute off the bench big man. He is not nearly skilled and impactful enough to start, if we’re hoping to contend in the BE, let alone make a tourney run next season.
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Disagree.. Sampson has more he can do.. Once he's coached to do it. Mid range pops. Some Ighodaro baby hooks. I'm predicting a Diarra like improvement.
 
Drame said:
Disagree.. Sampson has more he can do.. Once he's coached to do it. Mid range pops. Some Ighodaro baby hooks. I'm predicting a Diarra like improvement.
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He hasn’t shown great touch to do baby hooks or mid range pops at all. He is more of a one dimensional Clint Capela type of player on o. His free throw percentage does not suggest he’s going to be an effective pick and pop threat.
 
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Brochacho said:
I’m very bullish on Ball. His best game of the year was vs UNC and he has incredible length and great athleticism. I think he is a clear starter on next year’s team. I don’t think we got to see his whole offensive package this year because he was typically the 4th or 5th option when he was on the floor. Stroke looks good.
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I’m very bullish on Ball too and I think he could absolutely break out next year, but if this program is going to be a perennial top 15 squad with the expectation of competing for national championships consistently, I don’t think you take risks like penciling him in as the starter. He just plainly hasn’t shown enough this year to warrant that on a top team.
 
Drame said:
Theres a huge range of difference between 4*s. But what your high school ranking is doesnt determine your absolute viability as an NBA prospect. Solo can develop into an NBA prospect. He has the frame and physicality if he develops his skills and game to be an NBA prospect
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. Yes, Solo could develop into an NBA prospect. ANYONE on our roster could, even if it's exceedingly unlikely.

I wouldn't say one was a better prospect than the other in HS or otherwise. 4*s all get drafted at pretty much the same rate. The 50th and 90th ranked prospects aren't all that different--the difference could be one hot weekend over a summer years ago. That's how Akok got rated a 5* by some services.

And even after their respective freshman years, I see similar level of NBA prospects in Solo and Hass.. Neither has NBA size. Hass had more skill and is a better defender, Solo has a better physical profile. Pretty similar stats when you look at per-40 #s.
 
Solo is a much better prospect than Diarra coming out of HS because of his frame and athleticism. You can guarantee teams’ regional scouts are aware of him. It’s a tough challenge because we have to bring in competition but you can’t just recruit over kids every class like you used to. We definitely bring in a guard and perhaps an additional wing, likely with one being a sniper. But I think it’s assured we use the highest percentage of our NIL on a big man.
 
mauconnfan said:
Dan wanted Timberlake too did you watch him? Let’s be honest here Dan got a bit lucky with that swing and miss.

Hey if you get a stud shooter as well and this guys a piece then it’s all good. But if we’re hoping he becomes a better shooter because he’s now in Storrs I’m not thrilled.

But that’s just me!
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Wow.. now some people are judging Hurley on players that might have come here
 
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husky429 said:
Not the same position. Greek may back up AK at the 4. This kid is a 2/3. Could start at the 2 or support Stewart and pur SG off the bench.
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I like what little I've seen. Hope he stays and gets his shot at a bigger role. As for the portal, I'm sure Hurley will look at his options who he feels fits his system and culture, and who is attainable. It's not about stats as it is about fit.
 
Drame said:
Disagree.. Sampson has more he can do.. Once he's coached to do it. Mid range pops. Some Ighodaro baby hooks. I'm predicting a Diarra like improvement.
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He needs to become a better screener and rebounder before he starts diverting his focus to offensive game. His offensive game will always revolve around floaters/touches around the paint and lobs, he is vertical lob threat before anything though. If he can clean up footwork on screens and the glass, get stronger... he will be very valuable. Its obvious we need another high level big though, as singare is just not there.
 
Waquoit said:
That's just him.
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It’s not true????? Please stop it’s just reality luck is part of coaching whether it’s him or Calhoun. Too bad you guys are so ignorant of that :rolleyes:
 
Luna said:
Wow.. now some people are judging Hurley on players that might have come here
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I’m not judging anything I’m telling the truth. He wanted Timberlake before Spencer would you like to prove to me otherwise??? Doesn’t mean he’s not a great coach just saying in regards to the Merrimack kid.
 
KemBuckets21 said:
He hasn’t shown great touch to do baby hooks or mid range pops at all. He is more of a one dimensional Clint Capela type of player on o. His free throw percentage does not suggest he’s going to be an effective pick and pop threat.
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He just needs to slow down. We havn't seen him coached up yet. Who thought Diarra would be this impactful..
 
Drame said:
He just needs to slow down. We havn't seen him coached up yet. Who thought Diarra would be this impactful..
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I think you have UConn blinders on, his skill set is running and jumping, doing the small things. Good as a hedge defender etc., I’d be surprised if Danny’s thinking after we get 6, hey we need Samson to be a pick and pop threat. Maximize what he’s good at rather than developing a skill set he hasn’t shown.
 
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mauconnfan said:
It’s not true????? Please stop it’s just reality luck is part of coaching whether it’s him or Calhoun. Too bad you guys are so ignorant of that :rolleyes:
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Luck is just probability taken personally. And "got lucky" is what someone says when they don't want to give credit to someone else for getting it right.
 
ec33 said:
UConn got lucky with Cam. His awesome.

But I believe that the UConn staff would have done a much better job putting Timberlake into a position to succeed and Timberlake would have likely been successful at UConn (although I starter role could well have over-exposed him).

The same is going to happen next season. The current team is led by Newton is slow and methodical and that fits with the current lineup.
A team with Diarra at the point - with Stewart, Johnson, and - yes - Ball is going to be much better at a faster pace, because that is going to suit them better. (And Ball is going to look vastly improved because of the increased suitability.)
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Luck is opportunity meeting preparation. Interest in Derdack is an example of staff prepping and being prepared. Husky 249 mentioned that as he continued to view tape on Derdack, his value began to become apparent. May not be #1 guy in portal, but sounds like good enough.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
I’m very bullish on Ball too and I think he could absolutely break out next year, but if this program is going to be a perennial top 15 squad with the expectation of competing for national championships consistently, I don’t think you take risks like penciling him in as the starter. He just plainly hasn’t shown enough this year to warrant that on a top team.
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Don't really know how fair it is to knock Ball for his lack of showing out this year. He was pretty decent against high level competition at the beginning of the year, when freshman are still trying to figure out the speed of the game. He doesn't play now because he's got an All American, a lottery pick, and a fourth year guy who plays with a veteran's savvy in front of him.

I also don't really see this as a top 15 team next year. Nothing to worry about as we're enjoying the ride now but with the pieces we lose, I see UConn as more of a top 25 team next year, even Dan Hurley's ability to crush the portal.
 
husky429 said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. Yes, Solo could develop into an NBA prospect. ANYONE on our roster could, even if it's exceedingly unlikely.

I wouldn't say one was a better prospect than the other in HS or otherwise. 4*s all get drafted at pretty much the same rate. The 50th and 90th ranked prospects aren't all that different--the difference could be one hot weekend over a summer years ago. That's how Akok got rated a 5* by some services.

And even after their respective freshman years, I see similar level of NBA prospects in Solo and Hass.. Neither has NBA size. Hass had more skill and is a better defender, Solo has a better physical profile. Pretty similar stats when you look at per-40 #s.
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Not sure how fair it is to compare Hass and Solo's freshman years, as the talent of their respective teams and their role on each was significantly different. They're relatively the same size but Solo's athleticism is way beyond Hass' and his shooting stroke, though streaky at times, is fundamentally better (in my humble opinion). Seems like all of the recruiting services agreed that his ceiling coming out of HS was much higher as well. I think the comparison is colored a bit by how much senior Hass does for us now. I don't think Solo is a lock for the NBA but as it stands his potential to get drafted is much higher.
 
PAHusky said:
Don't really know how fair it is to knock Ball for his lack of showing out this year. He was pretty decent against high level competition at the beginning of the year, when freshman are still trying to figure out the speed of the game. He doesn't play now because he's got an All American, a lottery pick, and a fourth year guy who plays with a veteran's savvy in front of him.

I also don't really see this as a top 15 team next year. Nothing to worry about as we're enjoying the ride now but with the pieces we lose, I see UConn as more of a top 25 team next year, even Dan Hurley's ability to crush the portal.
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That’s kind of my point though, it’s not a question of fair if you want to maintain the standards of this program as an annual contender. Awarding PT because someone was loyal or waited their turn is not going to cut it in the age of the portal.

Maybe Hurley feels comfortable with Ball as the starter and I will trust him if he does, but there is absolutely a path for Hurley to hit the portal and reload as a championship contender next year and I wouldn’t expect him to just accept a lesser team because those are the pieces he has currently. Remember, after the roster turnover last year, even this board was pretty much locked in as this only being a top 25 type team.
 
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WhereistheDove? said:
That’s kind of my point though, it’s not a question of fair if you want to maintain the standards of this program as an annual contender. Awarding PT because someone was loyal or waited their turn is not going to cut it in the age of the portal.

Maybe Hurley feels comfortable with Ball as the starter and I will trust him if he does, but there is absolutely a path for Hurley to hit the portal and reload as a championship contender next year and I wouldn’t expect him to just accept a lesser team because those are the pieces he has currently. Remember, after the roster turnover last year, even this board was pretty much locked in as this only being a top 25 type team.
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Right maybe I didn't communicate this well enough in my post. I don't think he should be handed a starting spot because he stuck around - I don't think anyone should be handed a starting spot period. I just don't think he should be written off so quickly since his playing time is minimal due to being on an incredibly talented roster. I think if this team weren't as good as it is and Solo was called on to play more minutes the entire season we may be looking at him in a completely different light.
 
Lynyrd said:
Me
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He was playing really well until his abdomen injury. JC and Hurley were describing him as the alpha dog preseason last year. So add me to the list.
 
PAHusky said:
Right maybe I didn't communicate this well enough in my post. I don't think he should be handed a starting spot because he stuck around - I don't think anyone should be handed a starting spot period. I just don't think he should be written off so quickly since his playing time is minimal due to being on an incredibly talented roster. I think if this team weren't as good as it is and Solo was called on to play more minutes the entire season we may be looking at him in a completely different light.
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Fair. All this is to say, Hurley and the coaches see these dudes in practice every day and have earned this fan base’s trust. If we don’t go after any starting guards and it’s clear that Ball is the guy, I will not question that. I just have my doubts that is how it will go.
 
AllHusky said:
Luck is opportunity meeting preparation. Interest in Derdack is an example of staff prepping and being prepared. Husky 249 mentioned that as he continued to view tape on Derdack, his value began to become apparent. May not be #1 guy in portal, but sounds like good enough.
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The luck part was Timberlake falling through. Things out of their control.

But I agree with you remarks on the preparation. If it had been Timberlake, they had a plan to use him effectively in their offense and I suspect they would have succeeded. Kansas's plan was throw a lot of money at him and it will all work out.
 
About Solo Ball: I notice that Raftery has brought up Solo a few times when he's covered our games. Compliments his shooting and thinks he'll contribute a lot in the future. I don't know if that comes from watching a practice or warm-ups or hearing it from Hurley, but I think I've heard it on three separate broadcasts.
 
What happened w Gavin Griffiths at Buttgers? Poor #s but I know they were awful offensively. Rumblings he’s going into portal. Would we want him (assume so) or is bloom off rose?
 
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