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Jordan Danberry granted another year MSU

Major surprise to me, I had no idea Jordan was eligible for a waiver. I thought she played 1 season at Ark and 3 at MSST, Mildog, is that not correct?
 
LoTrader said:
Evina & Kat Tudor of Oregon State are next in line.
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I certainly hope so. UConn had a good summer (recruiting). Let's hope their lucky streak continues, and Evina's waiver request is granted. Then we can proceed to try and figure out who that 5th starter will be. :rolleyes:
 
Jmsdawg said:
Major surprise to me, I had no idea Jordan was eligible for a waiver. I thought she played 1 season at Ark and 3 at MSST, Mildog, is that not correct?
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She played 6 games as a soph at Arkansas before transferring. She sat out the first chunk of her junior season so she effectively missed a full year of eligibility without redshirting which was the reason stated on an article I saw. Havent heard of them making exceptions like this before, but I'd expect we'll see more waivers and exceptions to come.
 
Danberry sat out the 2nd half of her sophomore season and the first semester of her junior season as required by the year in residency transfer requirement. What the NCAA seems to be doing is amending it’s rule that if you play in 2 or 10% of your teams games (whichever is larger), you have used up a year of eligibility. Since the rule has not been changed as far as I know, the NCAA appears to be deciding these cases on a case by case basis. Maybe one of our resident experts on ncaa rules can help.
 
@Plebe, you read the fine print?

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bballnut90 said:
She played 6 games as a soph at Arkansas before transferring. She sat out the first chunk of her junior season so she effectively missed a full year of eligibility without redshirting which was the reason stated on an article I saw. Havent heard of them making exceptions like this before, but I'd expect we'll see more waivers and exceptions to come.
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Correct. She left after playing six games her sophomore year at Arkansas. She then sat the spring semester at MSU then started playing her junior year after the following fall semester at MSU. Last year was then her senior year (fourth year playing in college).
I remember Coach Schaefer said they considered redshirting her entire junior year so she would have two full seasons instead of the partial junior season plus a full senior season. However he determined they couldn’t afford to do that as she was too valuable as a defensive sub.
 
militarydog said:
I remember Coach Schaefer said they considered redshirting her entire junior year so she would have two full seasons instead of the partial junior season plus a full senior season. However he determined they couldn’t afford to do that as she was too valuable as a defensive sub.
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Turned out that was the best decision of her college basketball lifetime.
 
SECbbfan24 said:
I am all for it as long as they are consistent across the board.
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It would appear initially to make sense that you would sit out the equivalent of a year of college (fall and Spring or spring and fall) but if it is midterm then you could complete the remainder of that prior partial year. However in contrast and using the same line of thought, if a player was redshirting then left at midterm then the player would have to sit the fall term and lose that period of play too.
 
I'm thrilled Danberry will be back again. However, this is yet another waiver that to me doesn't make sense and isn't consistent with past rulings. Of course the NCAA is worse than the federal government about being inconsistent. I know she will help the team.
 
SECbbfan24 said:
I am all for it as long as they are consistent across the board.
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That's not going to happen. Which leads one to ask what exactly is the NCAA using to determine approval. Some transparency on approvals would be great, but we'll never get that either.
 
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JDuro said:
Reminds me of a few years ago at South Carolina where we had a MBB player transfer in from Villanova after their exhibition game in which he played. He petitioned the NCAA to get that year back but the NCAA rejected it saying playing in that exhibition was enough to account for a full season of eligibility.
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The NCAA will shaft South Carolina on waivers and send us to the West Coast. Just have to accept it.

I guess I should say it's a good thing that this was granted, I just have a hard time believing that it would go our way if we were in the same place. Which makes it hard to feel good about it.

I hate, hate, hate this ad hoc way of determining waivers.
 
Seems to me they need to change the rule. Effectively speaking she played three seasons of basketball and sat out a year.

Sometimes common sense needs to come into play. This is one of those times.
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
The NCAA will shaft South Carolina on waivers and send us to the West Coast. Just have to accept it.

I guess I should say it's a good thing that this was granted, I just have a hard time believing that it would go our way if we were in the same place. Which makes it hard to feel good about it.

I hate, hate, hate this ad hoc way of determining waivers.
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With these other waivers granted, Destiny Littleton better be eligible this season.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
With these other waivers granted, Destiny Littleton better be eligible this season.
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She may be, the way things are going. But in fairness these recently announced cases are qualitatively different from hers.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
With these other waivers granted, Destiny Littleton better be eligible this season.
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The frustrating thing to me is that recent article from the State suggested they were still putting together her waiver application.

Maybe I read more into than I should and it has already been done, but why in the world would this not have been submitted as soon as she enrolled?

Especially after their decision to delay the T. Cooper waiver request resulted in the NCAA never getting around to reviewing it.
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
The frustrating thing to me is that recent article from the State suggested they were still putting together her waiver application.

Maybe I read more into than I should and it has already been done, but why in the world would this not have been submitted as soon as she enrolled?

Especially after their decision to delay the T. Cooper waiver request resulted in the NCAA never getting around to reviewing it.
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NCAA did review Te’a’s waiver application and denied it.

As for Destiny, I also find am concerned if they have not yet submitted her application to the NCAA. Crazy to wait this long.
 
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I agree with Secbbfan. If they do it consistently, I have no problem with it.

Besides... a waiver approved for Destiny Littleton is different than Danberry. Danberry is trying to get another year after playing only 3 years. Littleton is trying to avoid having to sit a year. They're not comparable. Littleton won't lose a year of eligibility no matter what. Danberry has lost a year, but legit sat out a full calendar year, even though she played bits and pieces of her sophomore and junior, but in the end she played only 3 years altogether cumulated.
 
SimpleDawg said:
I agree with Secbbfan. If they do it consistently, I have no problem with it.

Danberry has lost a year, but legit sat out a full calendar year, even though she played bits and pieces of her sophomore and junior, but in the end she played only 3 years altogether cumulated.
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The situations are different. That said, the NCAA has always counted those games (“bits and pieces”) played by Danberry as a full season. There are countless players before Danberry who didn’t get the benefit of another season. If the NCAA has changed its rules for all similarly situated student-athletes than it should say that and amend its rules.
 
UConnCat said:
The situations are different. That said, the NCAA has always counted those games (“bits and pieces”) played by Danberry as a full season. There are countless players before Danberry who didn’t get the benefit of another season. If the NCAA has changed its rules for all similarly situated student-athletes than it should say that and amend its rules.
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I agree, but maybe they're in the process of beginning a change now.

Let's refer to Daneesha Provo of Utah. She played bits and pieces of her freshman in Clemson. 31 games of her sophomore. 28 of her junior, and 13 of her senior before being injured. She had a "bits and pieces" situation like Danberry - though it was in her freshman and senior year. So they bunched those 2 partial years together and called it one year.

If starting right now is when they're beginning a change towards the combining the bits and pieces years, I have no problem with it.
 
UConnCat said:
The situations are different. That said, the NCAA has always counted those games (“bits and pieces”) played by Danberry as a full season. There are countless players before Danberry who didn’t get the benefit of another season. If the NCAA has changed its rules for all similarly situated student-athletthan it should say that and amend its rules.
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I would like the rules to be simple and consistent. The only transfer rule that seem to be simple and consistent is graduate transfers, all others seem to be complex and inconsistent. I still do not understand why the Promise Taylor eligibity was turn down and AEH approved, I really did not see much difference between those two cases
 
Jmsdawg said:
I would like the rules to be simple and consistent. The only transfer rule that seem to be simple and consistent is graduate transfers, all others seem to be complex and inconsistent. I still do not understand why the Promise Taylor eligibity was turn down and AEH approved, I really did not see much difference between those two cases
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Apparently it was because Geno was mean to her.
 
Jmsdawg said:
I would like the rules to be simple and consistent. The only transfer rule that seem to be simple and consistent is graduate transfers, all others seem to be complex and inconsistent. I still do not understand why the Promise Taylor eligibity was turn down and AEH approved, I really did not see much difference between those two cases
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The mid-season transfer rules used to be simple and consistent. We may begin to see more December transfers given how the NCAA is now treating them.

Maybe Miss opposed Taylor’s waiver. I doubt Geno opposed AEH’s and even if he did it wouldn’t have mattered as he was critical of her. AEH will get another year of eligibility as I doubt the games she played at UConn will count.
 
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