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Is his absence really a loss? I did not see much of anything in his game on Monday, other than long arms...I thought he looked uncomfortable and a bit lost on defense... To me he seemed stunned by the speed of the game. That being said, I wish him a speedy recovery from whatever the ailment is in his foot.

He started for a reason. 1 game of PT doesn't change the hundreds of hours of practice our coaches saw.
 
Is his absence really a loss? I did not see much of anything in his game on Monday, other than long arms...I thought he looked uncomfortable and a bit lost on defense... To me he seemed stunned by the speed of the game. That being said, I wish him a speedy recovery from whatever the ailment is in his foot.

As far as winning games now, you probably want Karaban on the court as much as possible. But "seemed stunned by the speed of the game" is why you have to play him, so he gains game experience and can adapt. He is a special talent with a very high ceiling.
 
In regards to Wally Pipp, Karaban is going to do what he does and fill the role Hurley is going to put him. He does everything well. Samson would have been nice to have for front court depth plus his shooting range and shot blocking capability. I hope he can get back to help in the second half of the season. I think they are not competing for the same position at this point. Karaban is more of a 3 imo.
If Sampson is out "indefinitely" it may be Richie Springs that fills up the minutes. He could be a more than an acceptable substitute in the interim. We are very deep.
 
If Sampson is out "indefinitely" it may be Richie Springs that fills up the minutes. He could be a more than an acceptable substitute in the interim. We are very deep.

Aren't all injured players out "indefinitely" until they actually return?
 
Aren't all injured players out "indefinitely" until they actually return?
Yes, they certainly are indefinitely out until such time as their return for certain. The certitude of uncertainty.
 
Wow. Given this, it's even more impressive that you're a bad take machine on this board.
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I promise the drop off to Richie is close to zero. All we need out of that spot is defense and rebounding.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Johnson can do things with his length and athleticism that Richie cannot do, and will be highly valuable against better competition… particularly Creighton. Don’t get me wrong, I like Richie. But let’s not kid ourselves and get overexcited after a game against BU to try and soften the blow of losing Johnson.
 
I wholeheartedly disagree. Johnson can do things with his length and athleticism that Richie cannot do, and will be highly valuable against better competition… particularly Creighton. Don’t get me wrong, I like Richie. But let’s not kid ourselves and get overexcited after a game against BU to try and soften the blow of losing Johnson.

Sure Johnson has a higher ceiling and flashes some great potential. He also fouls a lot, and is out of position most of the time defensively. Again the difference in this athleticism and length over the 15 mins he will play this year is really not a lot. I promise.
 
Sure Johnson has a higher ceiling and flashes some great potential. He also fouls a lot, and is out of position most of the time defensively. Again the difference in this athleticism and length over the 15 mins he will play this year is really not a lot. I promise.

I don't know man. Johnson started for a reason. Richie didn't play in the first game until garbage time for a reason. I think Springs will be a fine backup, but I've gotta trust the staff if they believe that Johnson was starting material and Richie was out of the rotation until we needed another PF.

From what I've seen you are right... Johnson plays defense with his hands, has basically 0 offensive skillset, and didn't seem to get the team concept. He's also played a total of 16 minutes of basketball this year. Pretty tough to judge his skillset based on that.
 
I don't know man. Johnson started for a reason. Richie didn't play in the first game until garbage time for a reason. I think Springs will be a fine backup, but I've gotta trust the staff if they believe that Johnson was starting material and Richie was out of the rotation until we needed another PF.

From what I've seen you are right... Johnson plays defense with his hands, has basically 0 offensive skillset, and didn't seem to get the team concept. He's also played a total of 16 minutes of basketball this year. Pretty tough to judge his skillset based on that.
I, personally have been eager to see what Samson can actually do on the court and all the videos we watched this summer indicated that he had vastly improved in all facets of his game. So yes, I think this is a loss. Losing a starter is losing a starter!

At the end of the day we are currently without 3 starters, and this is a good time to see what we have on this "deep bench". Richie looked the part on Friday, hopefully he can look the part a few more times until we are at 100%.
 
I, personally have been eager to see what Samson can actually do on the court and all the videos we watched this summer indicated that he had vastly improved in all facets of his game. So yes, I think this is a loss. Losing a starter is losing a starter!

At the end of the day we are currently without 3 starters, and this is a good time to see what we have on this "deep bench". Richie looked the part on Friday, hopefully he can look the part a few more times until we are at 100%.
I think we all recognize he was only going to be a starter for a game or two though. I'm rooting for the kid and really like his upside but I see 8 players on the team where if they were injured it would be more concerning.
 
I think we all recognize he was only going to be a starter for a game or two though. I'm rooting for the kid and really like his upside but I see 8 players on the team where if they were injured it would be more concerning.
There’s really no way of saying that at all. Especially considering Dan is usually dug in on his starters once he makes that decision.
 
Sure Johnson has a higher ceiling and flashes some great potential. He also fouls a lot, and is out of position most of the time defensively. Again the difference in this athleticism and length over the 15 mins he will play this year is really not a lot. I promise.
Yes Samson has quite a bit to work on, and I have faith he’ll work out those kinks with more playing time. He is barely a sophomore. The two flaws you mentioned are quite coachable… and the staff have proved they can coach that up very well (Whaley). You can’t coach length and athleticism.

I promise you there is a reason a younger Samson was thrust into the starting lineup, and that there’s a reason Richie barely sees a lick of playing time when we are at full strength. It’s pretty evident the drop off between the two players. It seems Hurley and the staff agree.

And I promise you by the end of the season (if the two players stay healthy), the difference between the two players will be even more.
 

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