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One of the three guys likely considered for the 1st pick, injures his foot. I wonder how much this hurts his stock?

And to put a Uconn spin on this... Can someone explain how he's a better prospect then Drummond coming out? Their numbers are so similar and Drummond played in a much harder conference. Not to mention Drummond's all world upside, I don't see what people see in Embiid.
 

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One of the three guys likely considered for the 1st pick, injures his foot. I wonder how much this hurts his stock?

And to put a Uconn spin on this... Can someone explain how he's a better prospect then Drummond coming out? Their numbers are so similar and Drummond played in a much harder conference. Not to mention Drummond's all world upside, I don't see what people see in Embiid.

To answer the second part of your question, Embiid has only been playing basketball for few years and has picked up the game well reasonably fast to say the least. The knock on Drummond was that he was to carefree to reach his potential which now looks foolish. Anyway, I think Embiid and Drummond will be the next two NBA dominant big men if Embiid stays healthy of course.
 
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To answer the second part of your question, Embiid has only been playing basketball for few years and has picked up the game well reasonably fast to say the least. The knock on Drummond was that he was to carefree to reach his potential which now looks foolish. Anyway, I think Embiid and Drummond will be the next two NBA dominant big men if Embiid stays healthy of course.
Embiid also shows more promise on offense than Drummond did at this time. Drummond's offensive game consisted of mainly putbacks and alley-oop finishes. Embiid has some really good post moves and while he didn't showcase it a lot at Kansas, apparently he has shown a really good midrange game in workouts.

I do think this foot thing will cost him the #1 pick though. Too many bigs have had their careers ruined by injuries and teams should be concerned. Parker or Wiggins would be much safer options.
 

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Embiid also shows more promise on offense than Drummond did at this time. Drummond's offensive game consisted of mainly putbacks and alley-oop finishes. Embiid has some really good post moves and while he didn't showcase it a lot at Kansas, apparently he has shown a really good midrange game in workouts.

I do think this foot thing will cost him the #1 pick though. Too many bigs have had their careers ruined by injuries and teams should be concerned. Parker or Wiggins would be much safer options.

Yeah, that too. I think he slips a bit. Probably to the top 7.
 
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1. Parker (Cavs have had him #1 for a while until Embiid blew up)
2. Wiggins (Bucks need a potential star)
3. Vonleh (76ers have Noel so take Vonleh who has drawn comparisons to Bosh)
4. Exum (Magic tired of drafting Bigs and need a point)
5. Smart (Have said Favors is a C not a PF and I don't think they believe in Burke)
6. Embiid (Ainge loves to gamble)
 
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Foot problems scare me with big guys, but I still think Embiid is worth drafting early. He has some of the best offensive footwork I've seen from a prospect, and he's only been playing for four years, and he's a legit 7' with solid athleticism. Those kinds of players are rarities; there are really only 3 true centers in the game today that you can count on for 15+ PPG (Howard, Jefferson, Cousins) and none of those guys are legitimate 7-footers, and only Howard is both a scoring threat and a rim-protecting defensive anchor. If you have the ability to acquire a potentially dominant two-way center, you do it.

As for comparing Embiid to Drummond, it's an interesting discussion. You won't find a bigger Drummond fan than me, but I understand why Embiid is more highly regarded coming out of the draft. He's shown more basketball skill, whereas Drummond was productive due to his all-world athleticism and frame.

I understand where some GMs may have been skeptical about how Drummond would translate to the NBA, but in retrospect that's been proven to be decidedly foolish. In fact, Drummond already has 2 years of NBA experience and is only 7 months older than Embiid right now. Drummond, at 20, showed flashes of dominance while posting the second best rebounding/game (13.2) and FG% (62.3%) in the league. He's been in the top 17 in Player Efficiency Rating both of his seasons in the league so far. And in his best facet of the game, offensive rebounding, I don't think people realize just how dominant he's been; he led the league in offensive rebounds (440), and had more than 100 more than second place (D. Jordan - 331). His 440 O-Boards are good for 9th most in a single-season all-time... at 20 years old. And his supreme offensive rebounding skills explains how a player who gets essentially no plays called for him can still average 13.5 PPG. Drummond is like a young Moses Malone, but about 70 pounds bigger. If he can get his free-throw shooting to respectable levels, Drummond is going to be one of the most most dominant, effective players over the next 10-15 years.
 
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Drummonds play is nothing like Moses Malone. Malone was a skilled passer/mid range shooter/ post scorer. They both rebound and Drummond will be a better shot blocker. Drummonds an athletic mutumbo without the freetrows.
 
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A navicular fracture for Embiid is a HUGE blow. Much more significant than a metatarsal fracture.

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A navicular fracture is what limited Ilgauskas early in his career & ended Yao Ming's. Brendan Haywood missed all of this year w/ the injury
Yikes. Thats not good. With the right training staff who knows, I tend to think he wont slip that far. Alex Len got drafted with foot problems last year.

Oh and what makes Embiid an intriguing talent is his offensive skill set. Drummond was and still is very very raw offensively, even when it comes to FT's. Still, Dre was vastly underrated going into the draft and should have been picked by the *bobcats.
 
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A 7 footer with back and foot problems, what could possibly go wrong?!??

NOTHING!
Embiid is a HUGE risk at 1. If Wiggins and Parker don't go before Embiid, I'll be surprised, particularly give that Portland doesn't have a top 5 pick.



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Embiid is a HUGE risk at 1. If Wiggins and Parker don't go before Embiid, I'll be surprised, particularly give that Portland doesn't have a top 5 pick.



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So you are comparing Embid to Bowie and Oden?

You do realize a broken foot is different than a microfractue knee surgery? Like they are completely different.

As a Celtics fan I hope the 5 GMs ahead of them have your same view.
 
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Embiid is a HUGE risk at 1. If Wiggins and Parker don't go before Embiid, I'll be surprised, particularly give that Portland doesn't have a top 5 pick.



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Oden suffers from gigantism, it's the only way to explain how old he looks and all his injuries.
 

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I don't know, even pre-injury I think I'd take Wiggins. I get that there's a dearth of centers, but there's not exactly an oversupply of ridiculous talents like Wiggins. And I know all about his inconsistency.
The Embiid comparison you hear most is a taller Ibaka. That'd be a nice thing to have, no question, but Ibaka is also the third best player on a contender, not a centerpiece. Wiggins, at least could be.
Having said this, Wiggins probably falls to ninth or something.
 
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I don't know, even pre-injury I think I'd take Wiggins. I get that there's a dearth of centers, but there's not exactly an oversupply of ridiculous talents like Wiggins. And I know all about his inconsistency.
The Embiid comparison you hear most is a taller Ibaka. That'd be a nice thing to have, no question, but Ibaka is also the third best player on a contender, not a centerpiece. Wiggins, at least could be.
Having said this, Wiggins probably falls to ninth or something.

I don't necessarily agree with it because I don't like comparing guys to legends, but the comparison I heard most was Olajuwaon. I don't really see the Ibaka comp, Embiid already shows a natural feel for operating in the post that you don't really see out of Ibaka, who at this stage in his career is still mostly a face up jumpshooter/cleanup man around the rim on offense.
 
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I don't know, even pre-injury I think I'd take Wiggins. I get that there's a dearth of centers, but there's not exactly an oversupply of ridiculous talents like Wiggins. And I know all about his inconsistency.
The Embiid comparison you hear most is a taller Ibaka. That'd be a nice thing to have, no question, but Ibaka is also the third best player on a contender, not a centerpiece. Wiggins, at least could be.
Having said this, Wiggins probably falls to ninth or something.
Don't see the Ibeka comparison at all.

One I have heard the most is Olajuwaon, and if he is that you take him #1 and no matter if he has 2 broken feet.
 
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I think these health problems cost him #1 pick but no way he drops below #3 pick
 

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There is literally no way he passes LAL at 7 or the Kings at 8. I'm more curious to see who goes No. 1, the Cavs are now having Exum workout.
 
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1. Parker (Cavs have had him #1 for a while until Embiid blew up)
2. Wiggins (Bucks need a potential star)
3. Vonleh (76ers have Noel so take Vonleh who has drawn comparisons to Bosh)
4. Exum (Magic tired of drafting Bigs and need a point)
5. Smart (Have said Favors is a C not a PF and I don't think they believe in Burke)
6. Embiid (Ainge loves to gamble)
No way. Ainge can pick up Asik for a song. Take Kentucky stud here or one of the shooters, McBuckets or Staukus.
 

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Don't see the Ibeka comparison at all.

One I have heard the most is Olajuwaon, and if he is that you take him #1 and no matter if he has 2 broken feet.
Yeah, no one is going to pass on Olajuwon. But is you draft him expecting to be that you're more than likely going to be let down.
 

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Embid is not Olajuwan, but neither was Akeem at that age. However, that's probably his upside, a seven foot Hakeem. Drummonds upside is/was somewhere between Shaq and Dwight. Drummond got a bad rap bc scouts are morons (Caron's bullet in the knee?)

If Embid is healthy, that is a huge boon to the recent big man crop...Davis, Drummond, Cousins, Jonas and Embid look to be the future there.
 
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