Joe Lunardi now has us as one of the last four in

[aburks41]

I’ve caught a few (pun intended) Zags games. They are like Nova on steroids. 5 out offense with size everywhere. Extremely well coached and makes limited mistakes. Freshman PG but he’s a lotto pick so that doesn’t matter much.
LMU did give them some trouble speeding them up in the first half last weekend.

Gonzaga is #1 for a reason, but they will have gone 3 months without playing anyone remotely decent (not their fault the WCC is full of high school teams). That's going to hurt them when they suddenly start playing real teams again. Their 8/9 match up will be very interesting

 

[Palatine]

I mean, yeah. Fundamentally I don't like using a dictionary because it's an appeal to authority that seems to most as if it were authoritative when it isn't necessarily so.

The dictionary is a neutral arbitrator. It is necessary exactly because the nature of language is fluid. Using it is not an appeal to authority. It is an appeal to objectivity.

If words mean what any writer/speaker wishes them to mean, language will become useless. There has to be some governing authority or communication becomes impossible with each wrtiter/speaker using their own langauge.

 

[billybud]

ahhh...but we do speak our own language in normal colloquial use...since streaming Brit shows...I have come to realize that they don't speak english. Funny innit?

I'm chuffed to bits listening....but do not attempt to order chips in the US expecting to receive french fires. I am not taking the piss here, just noticing.

And here in the South. folks know how y'all is used...

y'all....can be singular

y'all....can be a small group

all y'all....for a larger group.

 

[Waquoit]

ahhh...but we do speak our own language in normal colloquial use...since streaming Brit shows...I have come to realize that they don't speak english. Funny innit?

I'm chuffed to bits listening....but do not attempt to order chips in the US expecting to receive french fires. I am not taking the piss here, just noticing.

And here in the South. folks know how y'all is used...

y'all....can be singular

y'all....can be a small group

all y'all....for a larger group.

I knew there was a reason I had this guy on ignore. I click unignore for one post and this is what I get.

 

[billybud]

I knew there was a reason I had this guy on ignore. I click unignore for one post and this is what I get.

You don't find colloquial language difference interesting? Please do hit the button again. Of course I was responding to

"The dictionary is a neutral arbitrator. It is necessary exactly because the nature of language is fluid. Using it is not an appeal to authority. It is an appeal to objectivity." in the post above mine.

 

[HeGotGame]

10 seed vs. VTech winner gets Iowa

Zach Edey returning to Purdue shakes up Bracketology in a big way

Kansas remains the clear preseason No. 1, but the Boilermakers have slipped in behind the Jayhawks as a probable repeat 1-seed with revenge on their minds.

www.espn.com

 

[tzznandrew]

The dictionary is a neutral arbitrator. It is necessary exactly because the nature of language is fluid. Using it is not an appeal to authority. It is an appeal to objectivity.

If words mean what any writer/speaker wishes them to mean, language will become useless. There has to be some governing authority or communication becomes impossible with each wrtiter/speaker using their own langauge.

Dictionaries aren't objective because they aren't handed down from the sky. From the very beginning they were filled with politics. Check out Samuel Johnson's definition of oats. Noah Webster coming out with a dictionary at all was a political act. Issues of slang and usage are political to today.

That doesn't mean they can't be useful, but they certainly aren't objective, and they most definitely aren't comprehensive.

There doesn't need to be any "governing authority" at all. For centuries upon centuries there were not and people understood each other just fine. I never said they can mean "what any writer/speaker wishes them to mean," I said that—contra some "governing authority" language speakers have a general understanding of what a word means.

No definition of a word is really fully accurate—think of a word in this sense as an electron. The observation pins it down with some other words, but it's sphere of meaning is beyond that.