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06029 said:
Let me know when one of your predictions on conference realignment and failure comes true.
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Have you ever left 06029 ... you seem completely isolated.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Although I don't completely disagree with JJ, your point gopher2, is a good one. I hope JJ reads your post, on the same day that the athletic department is celebrating another National Championship, it's 23rd.
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Yep, I truly believe that had we hired the right ADs and coaches we would be a top AAC team right now and would have been since the formation of the AAC. As a top AAC team, perhaps even the dominant AAC team, we would easily eclipse BC as the best FB program in New England. We can still become that kind of team but it is going to be much harder now that we have fallen so far behind. We need a high quality, stable coaching staff and Edsall gives us that.
 
gopher2 said:
Yep, I truly believe that had we hired the right ADs and coaches we would be a top AAC team right now and would have been since the formation of the AAC. As a top AAC team, perhaps even the dominant AAC team, we would easily eclipse BC as the best FB program in New England. We can still become that kind of team but it is going to be much harder now that we have fallen so far behind. We need a high quality, stable coaching staff and Edsall gives us that.
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Can the same be said for BC? A high quality, stable coaching staff can make almost any school dominant. The problem is the successful coach at both BC and Uconn will move to a greener, bigger job. Even Edsall again.

And why would Ucon be any more successful than BC in capturing New England fans?
 
Pudge said:
Have you ever left 06029 ... you seem completely isolated.
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Like you, I consult nationwide on projects. And like you, I know that Uconn football has A recognition level on par with Miami in Ohio.
 
06029 said:
Like you, I consult nationwide on projects. And like you, I know that Uconn football has A recognition level on par with Miami in Ohio.
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That's BS

UConn has a Brand and a completely untapped State and virtually unreached NE market that doesn't give a crap about BC ... and then Eastern NY. Miami of Ohio has Oxford, Ohio.
 
Pudge said:
That's BS

UConn has a Brand and a completely untapped State and virtually unreached NE market that doesn't give a crap about BC ... and then Eastern NY. Miami of Ohio has Oxford, Ohio.
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And they give less of a crap about UConn.
 
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huskymedic said:
That’s that second time you have said that...

You do realize that we play 8 conference games a year (which we have no choice in who/when) in a 12 game schedule?
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I had to take him off ignore to see why I had him on ignore.

Who does not know that on this board besides him? Probably nobody. Just wow...
 
06029 said:
Can the same be said for BC? A high quality, stable coaching staff can make almost any school dominant. The problem is the successful coach at both BC and Uconn will move to a greener, bigger job. Even Edsall again.

And why would Ucon be any more successful than BC in capturing New England fans?
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I think this is Edsall's last stop and that is why I am guardedly optimistic about our future. As far as "capturing New England fans" I only care about regaining the fan base here in CT. My reference to eclipsing BC had to do with beating them on the field and winning recruiting battles, which I believe we would as a dominant AAC team. Many recruits would choose an AAC program that wins consistently and plays P5 teams every year over a middling to lower echelon P5 team that loses a lot - because winning is fun and losing is not no matter what conference you are in.
 
gopher2 said:
I think this is Edsall's last stop and that is why I am guardedly optimistic about our future. As far as "capturing New England fans" I only care about regaining the fan base here in CT. My reference to eclipsing BC had to do with beating them on the field and winning recruiting battles, which I believe we would as a dominant AAC team. Many recruits would choose an AAC program that wins consistently and plays P5 teams every year over a middling to lower echelon P5 team that loses a lot - because winning is fun and losing is not no matter what conference you are in.
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Exactly. If you win in the AAC, recruits will come to your school over losing P5 programs. You need to show recruits that you can develop players and get some to the NFL. And provide a good education.

I get that people are frustrated with the football losing, but that is why Diaco is gone after three years. Did anybody expect Edsall to turn around the program this year? Of course not, but people, including Jacobs, are complaining this year that the team is not good.

I was on the field after the Houston win and the fans are ready and waiting to have those feelings again. And, they will happen again.
 
HartfordHank said:
You may believe that but the ACC, B1G and BigXII obviously did not!
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My criteria is different than those conferences.

My criteria: 1) the ability to field competitive, winning teams (based on a proven track record), 2) fan support, 3) academics.

Their criteria: 1) past football glory (Syracuse, Pitt, WVU) and 2) the number of TV's in the state (Maryland, Rutgers/New Jersey).
 
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06029 said:
Can the same be said for BC? A high quality, stable coaching staff can make almost any school dominant. The problem is the successful coach at both BC and Uconn will move to a greener, bigger job. Even Edsall again.

And why would Ucon be any more successful than BC in capturing New England fans?
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Edsall ain't moving. This is YR 1. He's not building 5 years and going anywhere.

Addazio had a good 2017. They should be good next year. So at least he's off the hot seat - where he sat in August
 
06029 said:
College Football TV Ratings For Every Game - Sports Media Watch
Ratings are a data point that back me up. What do you have beyond your own opinion?
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What the hell point are you making?

Thumbing through those ... the American has done reasonably well. Often beating P5 games. I don't see notable high numbers for BC. I see 6-10 games per week that do far better than others.

Often though it looks like:

992K Temple
USF American Sept. 21, 7:30 PM ESPN

816K Bos. College
Clemson ACC Sept. 23, 4:00 PM ESPN2
0.35

Yup. Temple - USF ( a minor tilt in the AAC) outdrew BC - Clemson. Surprisingly
 
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Butch said:
That's why only one conference wanted BC while three have been or still are interested in UConn.

Hurts, doesn't it?
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As much as you might want it to be true the reality is only one conference has an interest in UConn and that is the AAC! And you and everyone else are hurt over it.
 
Good lord! BC is a better football team right now. Kid Dillon is an absolute stud. UCONN will narrow the gap with Edsall back at the helm.

BC has a better conference affiliation. After that, they have absolutely nothing over UCONN........and the fans and administration don't really care. Fenway was UCONN's house. BC brought no one. Finally, BC will most likely not win a conference title in any of the major sports in our lifetimes. So the money is nice, but I don't see the fan base ever being happy.

BC's a nice little private school.
 
Pudge said:
What the hell point are you making?

Thumbing through those ... the American has done reasonably well. Often beating P5 games. I don't see notable high numbers for BC. I see 6-10 games per week that do far better than others.

Often though it looks like:

992K Temple
USF American Sept. 21, 7:30 PM ESPN

816K Bos. College
Clemson ACC Sept. 23, 4:00 PM ESPN2
0.35

Yup. Temple - USF ( a minor tilt in the AAC) outdrew BC - Clemson. Surprisingly
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My point is UConn’s profile nationally in football is about the same as any MAC or CUSA school based on Tv ratings versus your belief that it is part of the great national Uconn brand of the B.B. programs. Look at Uconn numbers and look at Miami of Ohio, Bowling Green, Central Mi numbers and draw your own conclusion about about UConn’s national brand recognition for football. I question even the regional appeal since Uconn and the American have been on ESPN broadcast games a significant number of times this year.

Uconn Ratings -
(70K) Tulsa
UConn American Oct. 21, Noon ESPNU
(769K) Memphis
UConn American Oct. 6, 7 PM ESPN
84K ECU
UConn American Sept. 24, Noon ESPNU
286K UConn
Virginia American
ACC Sept. 16, Noon ESPN2

Average = 302,250


MAC/CUSA Ratings
(369K) Akron
Miami (Ohio) MAC Nov. 7, 7:30 PM ESPN2
(272K) Miami (Ohio)
Ohio MAC Oct. 31, 8:00 PM ESPN2
453K) Marshall
Mid. Tenn. C-USA Oct. 20, 7:00 PM ESPN2
(90K) W. Michigan
Buffalo MAC Oct. 7, 3:30 PM ESPNU

Average 296,000

Other AAC teams -
(565K) Memphis
Houston American Oct. 19, 8:00 PM ESPN
(284K) USF
Tulane American Oct. 21, 7:00 PM ESPN2
(102K) SMU
Cincinnati American Oct. 21, 4:00 PM ESPNU
(295K) Navy
Memphis American Oct. 14, 3:45 PM ESPNU
(173K) Cincinnati
USF American Oct. 14, 7:30 PM ESPNU
(131K) UCF
Cincinnati American Oct. 7, 8 PM ESPNU
(61K) Temple
ECU American Oct. 7, Noon ESPNU
(442K) Memphis
UCF American Sept. 30, 7:00 PM ESPN2
(251K) Navy
Tulsa American Sept. 30, 3:30 PM ESPNU
(209K) Houston
Temple American Sept. 30, Noon ESPNU
992K Temple
USF American Sept. 21, 7:30 PM ESPN

Average 318,636

I was going to post the average for each of the P5 conferences but that is just too depressing to post.
 
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uconndogs said:
Good lord! BC is a better football team right now. Kid Dillon is an absolute stud. UCONN will narrow the gap with Edsall back at the helm.

BC has a better conference affiliation. After that, they have absolutely nothing over UCONN...and the fans and administration don't really care. Fenway was UCONN's house. BC brought no one. Finally, BC will most likely not win a conference title in any of the major sports in our lifetimes. So the money is nice, but I don't see the fan base ever being happy.

BC's a nice little private school.
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It was Uconn's home game. They should have owned Fenway as they had the majority of the tickets (I think Uconn got 20,000; Sox kept 10,000, BC got 7,000). That less than 21,000 actually attended a one off, unique game is not impressive by the Uconn fan base in any way. This was the second time in 3 years for BC fans to go to a game in Fenway if they wanted to. And Uconn does not move the BC fan base to attend like Notre Dame did. You probably had the same turnout by BC as you would have had in East Hartford.
 
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06029 said:
It was Uconn's home game....You probably had the same turnout by BC as you would have had in East Hartford.
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So pretty much what would have been the same crowd in East Hartford, but in Boston. That actually is impressive. In BC's backyard. We all know the fan turnout would have been far better if the program was stable as before.
 
HartfordHank said:
As much as you might want it to be true the reality is only one conference has an interest in UConn and that is the AAC! And you and everyone else are hurt over it.
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lol...wishful thinking. I ain't hurt. Do you see me whining and wailing? You managed to generalize me into a bunch when I bring up whining earlier in the thread. Speaks volumes on your part.

Yes, live in fear of us. Muahahahahahahahahahahaha. I am pretty sure we have more national championships than BC, no? We have 4 times as many NCAA titles.
 
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Butch said:
lol...wishful thinking. I ain't hurt. Do you see me whining and wailing? You managed to generalize me into a bunch when I bring up whining earlier in the thread. Speaks volumes on your part.

Yes, live in fear of us. Muahahahahahahahahahahaha. I am pretty sure we have more national championships than BC, no? We have 4 times as many NCAA titles.
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Live in fear of you? In your dreams and fantasies. You seem to have a lot of them. Like being in a P5 conference.

Congratulations on your WBB titles. You should be so proud. I am sure your guy friends are so impressed when you brag about it. Even more impressed when you talk about those Field Hockey Championships.
 
HartfordHank said:
Live in fear of you? In your dreams and fantasies. You seem to have a lot of them. Like being in a P5 conference.

Congratulations on your WBB titles. You should be so proud. I am sure your guy friends are so impressed when you brag about it. Even more impressed when you talk about those Field Hockey Championships.
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I don't think you get it. We're going to be part of the "P5" soon. You can't add, 1+1=2? We'll see how you feel then.

We STILL have more men's titles than BC.
 
Butch said:
I don't think you get it. We're going to be part of the "P5" soon. You can't add, 1+1=2? We'll see how you feel then.

We STILL have more men's titles than BC.
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Soon? Like Wednesday or maybe next week? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! I think you are the one having a math issue. 1+1 does equal 2! UConn Football does not equal P5!

You should aspire to being competitive in the AAC. You are going to be there for a while!
 
06029 said:
It was Uconn's home game. They should have owned Fenway as they had the majority of the tickets (I think Uconn got 20,000; Sox kept 10,000, BC got 7,000). That less than 21,000 actually attended a one off, unique game is not impressive by the Uconn fan base in any way. This was the second time in 3 years for BC fans to go to a game in Fenway if they wanted to. And Uconn does not move the BC fan base to attend like Notre Dame did. You probably had the same turnout by BC as you would have had in East Hartford.
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You do realize that BC students are literally down the street from Fenway? They had no one there. UCONN may have only brought 20-25k fans, but they traveled a few hours on a rainy night in November to watch the game. Stellar? No. But BC has always had issues with their following.
 
HartfordHank said:
Soon? Like Wednesday or maybe next week? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! I think you are the one having a math issue. 1+1 does equal 2! UConn Football does not equal P5!

You should aspire to being competitive in the AAC. You are going to be there for a while!
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All of what you post is largely true. In the interest of self awareness, you might want to ask yourself when BC will legitimately contend for a conference championship in the ACC.

Now, coming on this board with these posts doesn't make you smart, doesn't make you tough, certainly doesn't show any class.......it only makes you come across as an @$$.

Carry on..........
 
uconndogs said:
UCONN may have only brought 20-25k fans, but they traveled a few hours on a rainy night in November to watch the game. Stellar?
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Stellar? Impossible! Attendance for the game was 20,133. You are claiming UConn brought more people to the game than actually attended the game. Pretty impressive. Were you a math major at UConn or maybe Statistics?

Maybe, UConn had 12,000 people at the game. The balance were BC fans and a few were people who just came to watch a football game.
 
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