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Jeff Jacobs' Resolution: Agitate, agitate on why UConn can't get look from the Power Five

This is a columnist's mission statement as much as a New Year's resolution: Document exactly why the University of Connecticut has not gained membership in one of the Power Five conferences. Determine exactly what it would take to gain membership in one of the Power Five conferences.

And, oh yes, agitate, agitate, agitate.

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Fiftyish said:
A link to the article would really help. :rolleyes:
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Jacobs

But you might have trouble getting in directly.

Edit: Rumor has it that if you get blocked by the Courant by using the URL directly, copy the Web address at the top of the web browser and do a google search on it. Click on the google article find and you should get in.
 
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Sorry but Courant restricts so I placed article
 
Siestakeyfan said:
Jeff Jacobs' Resolution: Agitate, agitate on why UConn can't get look from the Power Five

This is a columnist's mission statement as much as a New Year's resolution: Document exactly why the University of Connecticut has not gained membership in one of the Power Five conferences. Determine exactly what it would take to gain membership in one of the Power Five conferences.

And, oh yes, agitate, agitate, agitate.

[Mod edits: Please do not reproduce or extensively quote copyrighted material. You may post a brief excerpt and a link to the full article. Also, it's preferable to use ordinary fonts for your posts except for special effects. Large and bolded font, especially in a post of any length, is to many people the equivalent of shouting at them.]
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Ok 1st time Need some coaching sorry
 
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if you type in a google search:

Jeff jacobs: no excuses: if uconn can't get into a power conference i want to know why

you will get to the link without having to register with the Courant...
 
As a long-time college football fan, I think I can accurately state that no one who isn't a UCONN grad cares a hoot about UCONN football. The only thing they care less about is WCBB. Jacobs calling WBB a 'major sport' is a joke. Obviously I'm a big fan, but the reality is we WBB fans are outliers, with too small numbers to have any economic clout at all.

I'm an Oklahoma grad, so for football I'm incredibly spoiled. But, as a personal example of UCONN's place in the world, in 2010 when UCONN was showing signs of being respectable, they got into the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma. I live in Phoenix, so I was able to go. It was embarrassing. Everybody knew Oklahoma was going to kill them and they did. No point at all to playing this game. Plus UCONN lost hundreds of thousands of $$ on the game because they had to buy a bunch of tickets and hotel rooms which nobody used. In addition to winning, the program needs some real fan support when the do. Anyway, total bummer all the way around.

The only way to get anyone's attention in the P5 conferences is to WIN in football. I don't know what the governor or senators or attorney general can do about this, but something needs to change or all the journalist whining in the world won't get us in a P5 conference.
 
j66kicker said:
As a long-time college football fan, I think I can accurately state that no one who isn't a UCONN grad cares a hoot about UCONN football. The only thing they care less about is WCBB. Jacobs calling WBB a 'major sport' is a joke. Obviously I'm a big fan, but the reality is we WBB fans are outliers, with too small numbers to have any economic clout at all.

I'm an Oklahoma grad, so for football I'm incredibly spoiled. But, as a personal example of UCONN's place in the world, in 2010 UCONN was showing signs of being respectable, they got into the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma. I live in Phoenix, so I was able to go. It was embarrassing. Everybody knew Oklahoma was going to kill them and they did. No point at all to playing this game. Plus UCONN lost hundreds of thousands of $$ on the game because they had to buy a bunch of tickets and hotel rooms which nobody used. In addition to winning, the program needs some real fan support when the do. Anyway, total bummer all the way around.

The only way to get anyone's attention in the P5 conferences is to WIN in football. I don't know what the governor or senators or attorney general can do about this, but something needs to change or all the journalist whining in the world won't get us in a P5 conference.
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As to competitiveness, well you have to walk before you can run. Still 20-10 at the half wasn't a horrible showing.

Regarding the tickets, the Sooner's lost money on the game as well. The Big 12 ate that loss for them, but the Big East did not do the same for UConn.

Fiesta Bowl tickets were part of a package deal for the national championship game. They were dumped by people who bought them as a part of that package and were available on the aftermarket for about 10 cents on the dollar of the price through the school. That plus a game in Arizona was a perfect storm to make UConn's first attendance in a BCS bowl costly. You can read about it more detail in this thread:
Let's clear up some myths about the Fiesta Bowl

As to winning being the path to the P5, UConn owns a better winning percentage than many P5 schools. You can read more about that in this thread: UConn Power Conference Profile - A Long Look at the Numbers.

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CL82 said:
As to competitiveness, well you have to walk before you can run. Still 20-10 at the half wasn't a horrible showing.

Regarding the tickets, the Sooner's lost money on the game as well. The Big 12 ate that loss for them, but the Big East did not do the same for UConn.

Fiesta Bowl tickets were part of a package deal for the national championship game. They were dumped by people who bought them as a part of that package and were available on the aftermarket for about 10 cents on the dollar of the price through the school. That plus a game in Arizona was a perfect storm to make UConn's first attendance in a BCS bowl costly. You can read about it more detail in this thread:
Let's clear up some myths about the Fiesta Bowl

As to winning being the path to the P5, UConn owns a better winning percentage than many P5 schools. You can read more about that in this thread: UConn Power Conference Profile - A Long Look at the Numbers.

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Better man than me ;)
 
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Siestakeyfan said:
Jeff Jacobs' Resolution: Agitate, agitate on why UConn can't get look from the Power Five

This is a columnist's mission statement as much as a New Year's resolution: Document exactly why the University of Connecticut has not gained membership in one of the Power Five conferences. Determine exactly what it would take to gain membership in one of the Power Five conferences.

And, oh yes, agitate, agitate, agitate.

[Mod edits: Please do not reproduce or extensively quote copyrighted material. You may post a brief excerpt and a link to the full article. Also, it's preferable to use ordinary fonts for your posts except for special effects. Large and bolded font, especially in a post of any len gth, is to many people the equivalent of shouting at them.]
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Jacobs is a very good writer. He should keep writing such material. I believe that the top Uconn officials don't really care as long as they keep collecting their large salaries. It also bothers me that the coaches, althletic directors, etc. of the top conferences(who were such "great friends" with the same at Uconn) completely abandoned them when they were reorganizing their leagues. I believe it really goes back to the trouncing that many of these teams took at the hands of the Uconn Men's and Women's basketball teams. Did you happen to notice how many women's basketball teams WANT to play a young Uconn team next year?
 
Biff said:
Jacobs

But you might have trouble getting in directly.

Edit: Rumor has it that if you get blocked by the Courant by using the URL directly, copy the Web address at the top of the web browser and do a google search on it. Click on the google article find and you should get in.
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That has NEVER worked for me unless the Courant article is shared nationally. The only thing they usually share on editorials is their own link.

Just going by the headline I too would like to know why we haven't had an invite. So our football isn't up to par but our basketball programs are so good it should trump that.
 
CL82 said:
As to competitiveness, well you have to walk before you can run. Still 20-10 at the half wasn't a horrible showing.

Regarding the tickets, the Sooner's lost money on the game as well. The Big 12 ate that loss for them, but the Big East did not do the same for UConn.

Fiesta Bowl tickets were part of a package deal for the national championship game. They were dumped by people who bought them as a part of that package and were available on the aftermarket for about 10 cents on the dollar of the price through the school. That plus a game in Arizona was a perfect storm to make UConn's first attendance in a BCS bowl costly. You can read about it more detail in this thread:
Let's clear up some myths about the Fiesta Bowl

As to winning being the path to the P5, UConn owns a better winning percentage than many P5 schools. You can read more about that in this thread: UConn Power Conference Profile - A Long Look at the Numbers.

maxresdefault.jpg
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UCONN has a better winning % than some P5 schools, but those schools were already there when the P5 took over, and UCONN wasn't. So what to do now? Football, football and more football. And that means more than we're already doing. Or just become a Catholic school and try to get back in the Big East for BB (:-
 
UCONN has gotten burned and does need to get in. If we don't get in, inevitable disaster. It's too bad. For a time in the Big East we were decent "enough" like Rutgers. We need to do whatever it takes to get into the Power Conference. The Big East doesn't count.
 
ericsandiego said:
if you type in a google search:

Jeff jacobs: no excuses: if uconn can't get into a power conference i want to know why

you will get to the link without having to register with the Courant...
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I had success cutting and pasting the url (from the blocked article) into the Google search window. This produced a list of sites, the first of which was the desired article. Clicking on that allowed me to read the full article.
 
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j66kicker said:
As a long-time college football fan, I think I can accurately state that no one who isn't a UCONN grad cares a hoot about UCONN football. The only thing they care less about is WCBB. Jacobs calling WBB a 'major sport' is a joke. Obviously I'm a big fan, but the reality is we WBB fans are outliers, with too small numbers to have any economic clout at all.

I'm an Oklahoma grad, so for football I'm incredibly spoiled. But, as a personal example of UCONN's place in the world, in 2010 when UCONN was showing signs of being respectable, they got into the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma. I live in Phoenix, so I was able to go. It was embarrassing. Everybody knew Oklahoma was going to kill them and they did. No point at all to playing this game. Plus UCONN lost hundreds of thousands of $$ on the game because they had to buy a bunch of tickets and hotel rooms which nobody used. In addition to winning, the program needs some real fan support when the do. Anyway, total bummer all the way around.

The only way to get anyone's attention in the P5 conferences is to WIN in football. I don't know what the governor or senators or attorney general can do about this, but something needs to change or all the journalist whining in the world won't get us in a P5 conference.
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There are many schools in the P5 conferences that are not good at football. We are getting much more competitive and should increase our win total again next year. It's important to see tickets and increase attendance at games. Being much more competitive should help that. We're all familiar with the Fiesta Bowl ticket debacle but they were set up for failure. When fans bought national championship tickets, tickets for our game were included... So fans were getting better seats and cheaper prices buying them from fans who had no intention of attending our game. They weren't buying from the school. Ticket sales never should've been done like that.
 
huskiemaniac said:
There are many schools in the P5 conferences that are not good at football. We are getting much more competitive and should increase our win total again next year. It's important to see tickets and increase attendance at games. Being much more competitive should help that. We're all familiar with the Fiesta Bowl ticket debacle but they were set up for failure. When fans bought national championship tickets, tickets for our game were included... So fans were getting better seats and cheaper prices buying them from fans who had no intention of attending our game. They weren't buying from the school. Ticket sales never should've been done like that.
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Fans need to fill the stadium and boosters need to boost -$$. We could get Nick Saban up here for about $9 million/year. Then the recruits would come.
 
j66kicker said:
UCONN has a better winning % than some P5 schools, but those schools were already there when the P5 took over, and UCONN wasn't. So what to do now? Football, football and more football. And that means more than we're already doing. Or just become a Catholic school and try to get back in the Big East for BB :)-
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How about Rutgers, not a program with a huge winning tradition, is it? There's more to CR that just football. Did you read the post I linked to? Here's some more light reading on conference realignment. Linky
 
Personnaly I really only watch the women play basketball. I would worry about losing the ability to watch them on cable like SNY if they fell pray to the control of a big conference. I get a bit angry when I see that it costs 49.99 to watch a Patriot game on cable.
Once we go "Big" we lose access. Being in a power conference will not help Huskie Women's bball.
But then I'm a bit particular.
 
CL82 said:
How about Rutgers, not a program with a huge winning tradition, is it? There's more to CR that just football. Did you read the post I linked to? Here's some more light reading on conference realignment. Linky
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It's not about winning percentages, it's about money and it's especially about football. The Big Ten chose Rutgers because they thought it was their best chance on having their network on cable lineups in the NYC area. The ACC would have been your best bet because it is the only P5 conference where basketball is more popular than football. The ACC isn't bringing in anywhere near the money the SEC is, however, because football is where the big money is. I think the best chance for you guys to get in a P5 conference is still the ACC if they expand to 16 teams. Adding you and Cincinnati or Temple would be the best way to expand their market.
 
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j66kicker said:
Fans need to fill the stadium and boosters need to boost -$$. We could get Nick Saban up here for about $9 million/year. Then the recruits would come.
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If you're looking for my eyeballs on OU football, you can take them from my cold dead body.
 
What Mr. Leghorn says above, in spades.

And, as a side note, it does not hurt to travel well. For football, given the long term state of the program, Rutgers actually travels fairly well. Not a factor in conference realignment as much as in bowl selection when you don't make the NY6.
 
I don't understand why this topic keeps coming up. It's simple in College Athletics it's Football that is the driver of everything. UConn doesn't have a prominent enough Football program and until they do, they won't be attractive to any Power 5 Conference. It's not about wins and losses it's about the ability to drive revenue and UConn Football isn't a revenue driver. A crappy stadium and no major TV market appeal are the biggest problems. The B1G believed that Rutgers would be a bigger draw in the NY market than UConn and that's why they chose Rutgers when they expanded.
 
iamcbs said:
I don't understand why this topic keeps coming up. It's simple in College Athletics it's Football that is the driver of everything. UConn doesn't have a prominent enough Football program and until they do, they won't be attractive to any Power 5 Conference. It's not about wins and losses it's about the ability to drive revenue and UConn Football isn't a revenue driver. A crappy stadium and no major TV market appeal are the biggest problems. The B1G believed that Rutgers would be a bigger draw in the NY market than UConn and that's why they chose Rutgers when they expanded.
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Yes, it's about revenue but not revenue from ticket sales, it's from media contracts. UConn is smack dab between the Boston and NYC markets and has proven it draws eyeballs to TVs. Otherwise, explain Rutgers to the Big 10 or BC to the ACC. UConn would be in the ACC now if BC hadn't blackballed it.
 
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