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January General CBB Discussion Thread (Non-BE)

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nelsonmuntz said:
Did anything Indiana was doing look like an upset?

You are conflating tradition, which is worthless, with financial commitment, which is all that matters now.
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You're talking about how CFB is consolidating at the top, yet the worst program in D1 history just came out of the blue and won it all.

I don't disagree with you on the consolidation. But I do disagree that fans won't tune in. The networks/universities are smarter than the BY on that topic.
 
Didn’t know where else to put this but Kansas is replacing UCLA in the CBS Sports Classic
 
Is Jayden Quaintance sitting out the rest of the season? Thought I was going to have to take the L when I questioned why they paid crazy NIL for a player coming off a March ACL surgery but if he's only going to play a handful of games and then sit out...
 
uconn is a very unique team in that they don't rely on individual creation so defending vs them is a different regime compared to basically every other team. if the 'muck it up' strategy is allowed then there's a lot of ways to gum up the movement of the offense and you really don't need all that much talent to do this. so any random big east team can play them level if they can hold and hug guys.

the question is basically does this kind of officiating persist into the tourney and can they actually hit open shots. they are playing a different game than the rest of the sport and it's really jarring to evaluate.
 
RuffRuff said:
Sure are.

I'd call that a quality loss for Nebraska - lead most of the game. They looked legit.

Purdue firmly falling off the contender line. They do not look good.
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You are amazing at identifying the obvious: you were on Purdue and then you jumped off when they started losing. It was Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, greatest team of the last 30 years until they struggled w Penn St and then lost, now it's all AZ all the time.

Can't wait to see who's next!!!
 
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ESPN is out with its top 50 players at midseason. Would anyone like to guess who they have at #1????
 
uconngb said:
ESPN is out with its top 50 players at midseason. Would anyone like to guess who they have at #1????
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Could you post a link to this please? interested in seeing where they put guys.
 
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I'm putting my dough on TN following up their big win vs Bama w/ another one vs. GA tonight, but I wouldn't be shocked if they pulled a Rick Barnes and lost
 
Houston - tier 1 contender. It was always a matter of time with that squad. AZ/Houston will be the game of the year kinda stuff. Burries/Peat against Flemming/Cenac is nice. The Big12 is loaded with the phenoms (DP & AJD).

 
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RuffRuff said:
Use AZ as the barometer, suggest there are very few players that would start on AZ on the UConn roster. Oh Greg.

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NVM my previous response. I listened to this, you were too kind. He said (to paraphrase) nobody in their backcourt steps on the court for Zona...and their center doesn't either.

That's absurd.

There is a huge gulf between not starting and not playing at all. Stupid takes all around on that video. Makes me realize why I haven't listened to the morons takes in ages.

If it were just starting (and everyone healthy), I'd say only Mullins would start at Zona. On the flip side, not sure any player on Zona starts at UConn (though I'd hear the case for Burries right now). The offensive and defensive systems are just vastly different and Hurley isn't starting Peat over Karaban IMO.
 
caw said:
NVM my previous response. I listened to this, you were too kind. He said (to paraphrase) nobody in their backcourt steps on the court for Zona...and their center doesn't either.

That's absurd.

There is a huge gulf between not starting and not playing at all. Stupid takes all around on that video. Makes me realize why I haven't listened to the morons takes in ages.

If it were just starting (and everyone healthy), I'd say only Mullins would start at Zona. On the flip side, not sure any player on Zona starts at UConn (though I'd hear the case for Burries right now). The offensive and defensive systems are just vastly different and Hurley isn't starting Peat over Karaban IMO.
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Which means down two starters they should’ve curb stomped us…oh wait.
 
RuffRuff said:
Are you and SuperJohn the same person?
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I just asked a question, lmao. Cape off, cape off! Haha

When we barely beat teams we are far superior than you have an issue with it. Why not have an issue with AZ barely beating a team they are, by your thoughts, far superior than?

Don't answer. Just ponder
 
KingAG said:
I just asked a question, lmao. Cape off, cape off! Haha

When we barely beat teams we are far superior than you have an issue with it. Why not have an issue with AZ barely beating a team they are, by your thoughts, far superior than?

Don't answer. Just ponder
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Because I'm more interested in how teams are playing now?
 
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RuffRuff said:
Because I'm more interested in how teams are playing now?
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So why play those games at all? If they have no value come February. You can throw that game out, I won't. The same way the 23 team wasn't their rough stretch, I don't think this UConn team is their rough stretch. I'm not as reactionary as you. Sure AZ got better. They've also had the benefit of having a relatively healthy season filled with continuity. UConn has had revolving players and lineups all season, currently with Braylon again. Solo is hurt, Reed hasn't been healthy. Add to that our offense is usually a slow build once conference play starts. How teams are playing now does matter. But the whole picture still has value. If are rough stretch is 20-1, # 2 in the country and undefeated in conference play, i'll take it lol
 
KingAG said:
So why play those games at all? If they have no value come February. You can throw that game out, I won't. The same way the 23 team wasn't their rough stretch, I don't think this UConn team is their rough stretch. I'm not as reactionary as you. Sure AZ got better. They've also had the benefit of having a relatively healthy season filled with continuity. UConn has had revolving players and lineups all season, currently with Braylon again. Solo is hurt, Reed hasn't been healthy. Add to that our offense is usually a slow build once conference play starts. How teams are playing now does matter. But the whole picture still has value. If are rough stretch is 20-1, # 2 in the country and undefeated in conference play, i'll take it lol
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For the resume.

Sure, the whole picture still has value, but I'm not going to over-index with spin on it, a game two months ago when teams were barely warm. Especially young ones like AZ who have three freshmen in their starting lineup. Again, I listen to some CBB pods and constantly leaning on that game is very much a SJ/AG thing. No one is saying, but, but UConn barely lost. Chuck it, the teams have evolved considerably in the last two months.

What's to say Solo & Tarris aren't hurt all year? Anyone is taking 20-1 #2, that part is great. But as we know, 90% of a teams success is deemed in March.
 
RuffRuff said:
Houston - tier 1 contender. It was always a matter of time with that squad. AZ/Houston will be the game of the year kinda stuff. Burries/Peat against Flemming/Cenac is nice. The Big12 is loaded with the phenoms (DP & AJD).

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Well at least he’s watching college basketball now before giving his opinions on college basketball
 
RuffRuff said:
For the resume.

Sure, the whole picture still has value, but I'm not going to over-index with spin on it, a game two months ago when teams were barely warm. Especially young ones like AZ who have three freshmen in their starting lineup. Again, I listen to some CBB pods and constantly leaning on that game is very much a SJ/AG thing. No one is saying, but, but UConn barely lost. Chuck it, the teams have evolved considerably in the last two months.

What's to say Solo & Tarris aren't hurt all year? Anyone is taking 20-1 #2, that part is great. But as we know, 90% of a teams success is deemed in March.
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I don't think it's spin at all. I think it's context and a data point. We have nothing else to judge how a rematch might go. Burries is a lot better, but Mullins is also a lot better, than not being there. An injured Taris averaging 15, 8 and 2 on 62% shooting is better than not being there. AZ is great. There is no one here saying definitively we'll beat them. I'm just against the overreactions acting as if UConn is not the number 2 team in the country on a 17 game win streak. Having one of the best OOC resumes in the country. In the tournament no one will care about style points. This team does one thing REALLY well. Win. It just so happens that AZ does that really well too. If anything I think the data supports the idea that this UConn team is undisciplined and plays up and down to their competition. Because every game has almost been the same script regardless of who they play. I have no worries about UConn beating title contenders in the tournament. I just hope they are disciplined enough to get there. AZ is almost the antithesis to UConn. Their floor is super high and they are extremely disciplined. Don't think that matters much in a one off though. Especially when I think the other team(UConn) has the higher ceiling.
 
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KingAG said:
I don't think it's spin at all. I think it's context and a data point. We have nothing else to judge how a rematch might go. Burries is a lot better, but Mullins is also a lot better, than not being there. An injured Taris averaging 15, 8 and 2 on 62% shooting is better than not being there. AZ is great. There is no one here saying definitively we'll beat them. I'm just against the overreactions acting as if UConn is not the number 2 team in the country on a 17 game win streak. Having one of the best OOC resumes in the country. In the tournament no one will care about style points. This team does one thing REALLY well. Win. It just so happens that AZ does that really well too. If anything I think the data supports the idea that this UConn team is undisciplined and plays up and down to their competition. Because every game has almost been the same script regardless of who they play. I have no worries about UConn beating title contenders in the tournament. I just hope they are disciplined enough to get there. AZ is almost the antithesis to UConn. Their floor is super high and they are extremely disciplined. Don't think that matters much in a one off though.
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It's a data point, sure. But it's a bit stale one at this point. Eric actually played great in that game.

I don't think you can break down a team's strength as "winning". That's really over simplifying it.

I'd say the metrics tell more of the story right now. It's just hard to know if this lull is a Hurley thing that they snap out of, or it's suggestive of who they are. Hurley always seems happy as long as they win.

This season is different - have said it since the beginning, that it should be a true test of how good the staff is. It's not a team oozing in talent like 23/24 - there isn't a lot of NBA talent on this team. Our one stud has less than half the season to figure out how to be an alpha on this team, he's only shown it in drips so far. So it will be strategy, button pushing and executing that gets them there.
 
Given the continuing debate over UConn only losing to AZ because we were down two guys, just wanted to repost this earlier comment I made a couple pages ago.
storrsroars said:
Nebraska was down their #2 and #3 scorers (Mast & Frager), still took Michigan to the wire in their place. I do think Nebraska panicked a bit in final 40 seconds with a couple of less than quality shots. I still think Nebraska can win the B1G.
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So, following the logic, Nebraska at full strength wins that game, right?
 
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