January General CBB Discussion Thread (Non-BE)

[HooperScooper]

Cuse goes down again.

Water is wet.....

 

[HooperScooper]

They’re not 2024. They’re just consistent and do the little things really well. And have a 5th gear.

The one question I have about Arizona is that 2 of their starters are freshmen. And they're the team's first and second leading scorers. I just don't like being that reliant on freshmen when you get to the NCAA Tournament. I do like Bradley, a seasoned veteran, as their PG. I know we have 1 freshman starting (and he's our 4th leading scorer although that will probably change) but that's half as many as Arizona. We'll see.

 

[Inyatkin]

Pitt lost to BC

Remember when us and Pitt were both looking for coaches at the same time? Quite the diverging paths

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Pitt lost to BC

Remember when us and Pitt were both looking for coaches at the same time? Quite the diverging paths

BC is not even trying to be competitive, and they picked off Syracuse and Pitt. Yikes.

 

[auror]

The one question I have about Arizona is that 2 of their starters are freshmen. And they're the team's first and second leading scorers. I just don't like being that reliant on freshmen when you get to the NCAA Tournament. I do like Bradley, a seasoned veteran, as their PG. I know we have 1 freshman starting (and he's our 4th leading scorer although that will probably change) but that's half as many as Arizona. We'll see.

3 of their starters. Burries, Kharchenkov, and Peat.

But Burries is 20 (like Karaban was his RS freshman year) and while Kharchenkov is only 19, he played 60+ games of pro basketball last season in Germany. Peat is a lottery pick.

In general, I like to be veteran at point guard and center to captain the offense and defense, respectively, and they are. It's fine for me if your wings and forwards are young.

 

[RuffRuff]

3 of their starters. Burries, Kharchenkov, and Peat.

But Burries is 20 (like Karaban was his RS freshman year) and while Kharchenkov is only 19, he played 60+ games of pro basketball last season in Germany. Peat is a lottery pick.

In general, I like to be veteran at point guard and center to captain the offense and defense, respectively, and they are. It's fine for me if your wings and forwards are young.

Burries is 20 and Peat is built like he's 25. I'm not sure I've seen a physique like that guy in a while. Peat is a lotto pick, Burries a first rounder.

Duke is being lead by a frosh. BYU. Our top scorer by end of year should be a frosh. UNC, Louisville, etc.

The Nate Ament drop has been interesting to watch. Size/skill hasn't translated as well as presumed as he's a bit slow & soft.

 

[RuffRuff]

I've been watching your take and don't watch all the teams other than UConn and some BE that often. So I can keep an eye on teams would be helpful if you could give a % chance of winning NC by top teams vs. field. By that I mean, which teams (could be only a few) would you take against the field and what are their chances of winning. Example:

Arizona 15%
Michigan 15%
Duke 10%
UConn 5%
Houston 5%

total 50% chance winner comes from these 5.

I think that take is right. I'd expect the winner to come out of those 5 as well. I'd say the other 50% is made up of:

Purdue
BYU
Florida
Kansas
Iowa St

Not sure I'm feeling the Zags or Nebraska.

 

[HooperScooper]

Burries is 20 and Peat is built like he's 25. I'm not sure I've seen a physique like that guy in a while. Peat is a lotto pick, Burries a first rounder.

Duke is being lead by a frosh. BYU. Our top scorer by end of year should be a frosh. UNC, Louisville, etc.

I'm more worried about college experience rather than their age, body type, how high they'll be drafted, etc.

 

[RuffRuff]

I'm more worried about college experience rather than their age, body type, how high they'll be drafted, etc.

I always say that by March, they're already sophomores.

 

[HW611]

Burries is 20 and Peat is built like he's 25. I'm not sure I've seen a physique like that guy in a while. Peat is a lotto pick, Burries a first rounder.

Duke is being lead by a frosh. BYU. Our top scorer by end of year should be a frosh. UNC, Louisville, etc.

The Nate Ament drop has been interesting to watch. Size/skill hasn't translated as well as presumed as he's a bit slow & soft.

Ament’s game has always been more potential than production it seems.

He has the talent. Seems like his decision to go to Tennesse was all about getting a bag and getting up as many reps as possible before the draft. He couldn't have came here. Or most programs with any sort of winning structure.

 

[HW611]

I always say that by March, they're already sophomores.

This was Calhoun’s philosophy on getting freshman a lot of playing time early on.

Wanted to make sure they were sophomores by March.

 

[formerlurker]

 

[HuskyHawk]

I think that take is right. I'd expect the winner to come out of those 5 as well. I'd say the other 50% is made up of:

Purdue
BYU
Florida
Kansas
Iowa St

Not sure I'm feeling the Zags or Nebraska.

Kind of crazy that the Big XII has five of the teams listed. Five legit final four teams. That's better than the SEC was last year, more quality at the top.

 

[HooperScooper]

I always say that by March, they're already sophomores.

By that logic the sophomores are juniors, the juniors are seniors, the seniors are 5th year seniors and the 5th year seniors are professionals. So still more experience than a freshman.

Let's revisit this in March. Just one example, and they got very far, but I think Duke lost in the Final Four last year because they were inexperienced. Would you be satisfied if Arizona got to the Final Four and lost? That's a pretty good run but I'm just saying I wouldn't pick Arizona to win it all.

 

[aceboon]

By that logic the sophomores are juniors, the juniors are seniors, the seniors are 5th year seniors and the 5th year seniors are professionals. So still more experience than a freshman.

Let's revisit this in March. Just one example, and they got very far, but I think Duke lost in the Final Four last year because they were inexperienced. Would you be satisfied if Arizona got to the Final Four and lost? That's a pretty good run but I'm just saying I wouldn't pick Arizona to win it all.

In crunch time vs Houston it was their experienced players like Proctor and James screwing up the most tbh

 

[RuffRuff]

By that logic the sophomores are juniors, the juniors are seniors, the seniors are 5th year seniors and the 5th year seniors are professionals. So still more experience than a freshman.

Let's revisit this in March. Just one example, and they got very far, but I think Duke lost in the Final Four last year because they were inexperienced. Would you be satisfied if Arizona got to the Final Four and lost? That's a pretty good run but I'm just saying I wouldn't pick Arizona to win it all.

Duke was lead by freshmen - AZ isn’t. This field is also not nearly as good. Duke also had that game in the bag and blew it. Played good enough to win.

That said, I don’t know if I’d pick AZ either. They’re simply playing the best ball right now. I’m honestly not sure who is the clear cut favorite as of now, a number of teams in the same boat.

 

[superjohn]

Duke was lead by freshmen - AZ isn’t. This field is also not nearly as good. Duke also had that game in the bag and blew it. Played good enough to win.

That said, I don’t know if I’d pick AZ either. They’re simply playing the best ball right now. I’m honestly not sure who is the clear cut favorite as of now, a number of teams in the same boat.

Two or three weeks ago you were posting that this Michigan team is better than last year's Duke. You were also posting about an undefeated Michigan playing a 1 loss UConn in the national championship game. Right now you have Arizona over everyone.

Based on your posts it doesn't make any sense you think this field isn't nearly as good as the field last season.

 

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[REB1094]

We beat a Zags team that beat two seed UCLA, and beat an Arkansas team that beat up number one Kansas. Miami was actually a very good team that year as well. It wasn't a great field as number one overall Bama was one of the weaker 1's I can remember, but you can only beat who's in front of you.

We also smashed Alabama by 15 at PK85 that season

 

[RuffRuff]

We also smashed Alabama by 15 at PK85 that season

Yup - was a weird season - reverse oreo cookie. Dominant front and back ends, bad middle.

 

[uconngb]

First Michigan was the second coming of our 2024 team, now it's Arizona...

Once they lose he’ll be onto Miami of Ohio…..he’s infatuated by the 0 next to their names in the loss column

 

[uconngb]

Two or three weeks ago you were posting that this Michigan team is better than last year's Duke. You were also posting about an undefeated Michigan playing a 1 loss UConn in the national championship game. Right now you have Arizona over everyone.

Based on your posts it doesn't make any sense you think this field isn't nearly as good as the field last season.

He provides great comic relief to the board….its the only reason I don’t have him on ignore.

 

[RuffRuff]

Once they lose he’ll be onto Miami of Ohio…..he’s infatuated by the 0 next to their names in the loss column

They hyperbole - I'm infatuated? I mentioned AZ looks like a better team right now?

This goofy board probably think UConn can beat the Celtics in a 10 game series.

 

[aceboon]

Arizona is impressive but I can never trust that school in the tourney, from Lute Olson to Sean Miller to Tommy Lloyd they've had some stacked teams filled with NBA guys that have came up short. Lloyd's best team during his AZ prior to this one was his first year and he had multiple NBA guys and even that one flamed out in the Sweet 16 to a 5 seed Houston team and they got outplayed wire to wire.

 

[KingAG]

The team we should’ve beaten without 2 starters is dramatically better than us?

Ok dude lmao

Salute to Arizona, they’re excellent.

@RuffRuff ‘s fatal flaw is he always over shoots. He can never make a leveled argument. He always has to add things like “dramatically”. And then backs up HIS opinion by appealing to consensus and saying how much said team is like 2024 UConn. Hilarious cycle.