January General CBB Discussion Thread (Non-BE)

[boog204]

Maryland up 30 at the half against Penn State, 56-26, and Coit outscored PSU by himself with 30. Adams looks solid and will be good in time.

And just like that PSU has cut the lead to 14, Adams looks terrible, and Maryland has ignored the guy who was unconscious in the 1st half. Maryland is horrible.

 

[boog204]

I really think folks here should be watching Massamba Diop from ASU. Good chance to get a look at him today against Houston (6:30 pm).

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/massamba-diop-1.html

I suspect Bobby Hurley is out after this season and Diop will hit the portal if he doesn't hit the draft. Right now he's not projected as a likely pick, but man, this kid's got lottery-pick tools. 7-foot-1, great length, good shooting touch, incredibly fluid athlete for his size.

Anyway, if Bobby's out and this kid ends up in the portal, I can think of a team with big NIL and annual title aspirations that would seem like a natural fit!

I almost posted about this guy the other day. He’s got legit lottery pick potential and I’d be surprised if he’s around for the portal. He’s already 21 so I’d think he’d try to cash in now. But 7-1, can handle and shoot, and rim protect.

 

[auror]

I almost posted about this guy the other day. He’s got legit lottery pick potential and I’d be surprised if he’s around for the portal. He’s already 21 so I’d think he’d try to cash in now. But 7-1, can handle and shoot, and rim protect.

The good news is that cashing in could mean the portal also.

 

[RuffRuff]

And just like that PSU has cut the lead to 14, Adams looks terrible, and Maryland has ignored the guy who was unconscious in the 1st half. Maryland is horrible.

I don't think we missed much there. Buzz is letting him play because he can this year, so hopefully the minutes get him ready for next year. He was not going to contribute in Storrs. He's shooting it at 33% from the field and has a 1.9TO to 1.3 assist ratio.

I almost posted about this guy the other day. He’s got legit lottery pick potential and I’d be surprised if he’s around for the portal. He’s already 21 so I’d think he’d try to cash in now. But 7-1, can handle and shoot, and rim protect.

Amazes me how Bobby cannot get anything going down there. Same Dad, same drive, coached with Danny, yet the coaching thing isn't clicking for him.

 

[boog204]

I don't think we missed much there. Buzz is letting him play because he can this year, so hopefully the minutes get him ready for next year. He was not going to contribute in Storrs. He's shooting it at 33% from the field and has a 1.9TO to 1.3 assist ratio.

Oh not at all. Just am interested seeing him. He’d be glued to the bench if he was here this year. Just think he’ll be a good player once his physicality improves.

 

[aceboon]

One of the weirdest calls I've ever seen. I still don't know what the right call was. To me, if it wasn't a reception, it should have simply been an incomplete pass. Not sure how you award a DB a pick on taking the ball away from a WR who caught the ball and took it to the ground. Nothing about the call makes sense to me - it's like saying that letting a WR catch a ball and then just ripping it from him at the right time is an INT.

Ball never hits the ground how could it be an incompletion?

 

[RuffRuff]

Ball never hits the ground how could it be an incompletion?

He catches the ball, rolls over with in it with his possession, and the defender rips it out on the turn over. IDK - that is a weird INT to me. An offense player has ball in full possession with hip down, rolls over, and then is stripped as his front side comes up on the roll over.

 

[Matrim55]

I almost posted about this guy the other day. He’s got legit lottery pick potential and I’d be surprised if he’s around for the portal. He’s already 21 so I’d think he’d try to cash in now. But 7-1, can handle and shoot, and rim protect.

As of now I don't see him in anybody's top 100, let alone in mock drafts. Obviously that can change – there's a lot of time left for him to play his way onto the boards, and just because the experts don't know about this kid doesn't mean that NBA front offices don't know – but as of now there's not much to indicate he'll be in the league next season.

 

[RuffRuff]

As of now I don't see him in anybody's top 100, let alone in mock drafts. Obviously that can change – there's a lot of time left for him to play his way onto the boards, and just because the experts don't know about this kid doesn't mean that NBA front offices don't know – but as of now there's not much to indicate he'll be in the league next season.

Let's also not forget the strength of this year's draft versus next. He could potentially make more in NIL.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

@Hey Adrien! --How did you like Fox? Ct kid for Yale

Back in the fall, I was at a Yale football game in line for food and this tall redhead was next to me wearing a Yale basketball t-shirt. Racking my brain, I was trying to figure out who he might be until later in the game I figured it was Riley Fox.

James Jones loves his guars/wings to be versatile on offense, but Fox is one shooter who always has the green light. Currently the 14th highest shot rate in the nation, 89th in offensive rating and an absurd 27.4 points per 40 minutes played. At 6'6, the sophomore is not only a knockdown perimeter scorer, but he's got the strength and creativity to score inside. One of the elite bench options in mid-major basketball.

 

[Umami Zen]

Back in the fall, I was at a Yale football game in line for food and this tall redhead was next to me wearing a Yale basketball t-shirt. Racking my brain, I was trying to figure out who he might be until later in the game I figured it was Riley Fox.

James Jones loves his guars/wings to be versatile on offense, but he is one shooter who always has the green light. Currently the 14th highest shot rate in the nation, 89th in offensive rating and an absurd 27.4 points per 40 minutes played. At 6'6, the sophomore is not only a knockdown perimeter scorer, but he's got the strength and creativity to score inside. One of the elite bench options in mid-major basketball.

Was wondering how his comp was compared to Pierce of Princeton. Realizing- of course- that he's still young and working himself into the starting lineup. Fox looks like a combo 2/3 vs Pierce looking like a 3/4. Pierce mixes it up on the boards more than he would-my guess.

 

[boog204]

As of now I don't see him in anybody's top 100, let alone in mock drafts. Obviously that can change – there's a lot of time left for him to play his way onto the boards, and just because the experts don't know about this kid doesn't mean that NBA front offices don't know – but as of now there's not much to indicate he'll be in the league next season.

Yeah I checked recently and was really surprised not to see his name. He’s averaging 15 and 6 with 2 blocks and just had 16 and 6 against Zona and 22 and 9 vs BYU. Idk, Ngomba is a late lottery, mid first pick supposedly. Diop definitely is the higher ceiling prospect imo.

 

[bendm]

He catches the ball, rolls over with in it with his possession, and the defender rips it out on the turn over. IDK - that is a weird INT to me. An offense player has ball in full possession with hip down, rolls over, and then is stripped as his front side comes up on the roll over.

It’s like if the ball just bounced off the receiver as he was falling down and the defender caught it. The receiver never possessed it but The ball never touched the ground or went out of bounds, so it can’t be an incompletion, it’s an interception.

 

[Matrim55]

Let's also not forget the strength of this year's draft versus next. He could potentially make more in NIL.

That's a great point. Same for the PG from Illinois. This year he's mid-first round, but next year he could be top 5.

 

[superjohn]

It’s like if the ball just bounced off the receiver as he was falling down and the defender caught it. The receiver never possessed it but The ball never touched the ground or went out of bounds, so it can’t be an incompletion, it’s an interception.

It's pretty damn weird how you can catch the ball come down with the ball firmly in your body with your body on the ground and it's not considered a catch.

 

[storrsroars]

@RuffRuff @superjohn
Stop frigging posting NFL stuff on this CBB thread. I'm not even saying please because you both know better.

 

[bendm]

It's pretty damn weird how you can catch the ball come down with the ball firmly in your body with your body on the ground and it's not considered a catch.

Because he didn’t possess it long enough to be considered possession. We see that play all the time where a receiver appears to catch the ball, he might even shift it in his arms, but before he takes a step a defender punches it out and the defense recovers it. That’s not ruled a fumble because the receiver didn’t “make a football move” ie he didn’t possess it long enough before losing it so it’s ruled an incompletion. Here the defender had both hands on the ball before the receiver goes down and the ball didn’t hit the ground or go out so it has to be an interception.

 

[AllHusky]

Because he didn’t possess it long enough to be considered possession. We see that play all the time where a receiver appears to catch the ball, he might even shift it in his arms, but before he takes a step a defender punches it out and the defense recovers it. That’s not ruled a fumble because the receiver didn’t “make a football move” ie he didn’t possess it long enough before losing it so it’s ruled an incompletion. But here the defender has both hands in the ball before the receiver goes down and the ball didn’t hit the ground or go out so it has to be an interception.

Oh-oh! 😳

 

[superjohn]

Because he didn’t possess it long enough to be considered possession. We see that play all the time where a receiver appears to catch the ball, he might even shift it in his arms, but before he takes a step a defender punches it out and the defense recovers it. That’s not ruled a fumble because the receiver didn’t “make a football move” ie he didn’t possess it long enough before losing it so it’s ruled an incompletion. Here the defender had both hands on the ball before the receiver goes down and the ball didn’t hit the ground or go out so it has to be an interception.

We see guys catch it all the time who possess the ball and bring the ball down with their body. He didn't take any steps because it was a jumping/falling catch.

 

[bendm]

We see guys catch it all the time who possess the ball and bring the ball down with their body. He didn't take any steps because it was a jumping/falling catch.

Yeah what you described just happened in the Texans game. the wr caught the ball and as he was falling down the defender ripped it away but the wr was ruled down by contact. But we’ve never seen what happened last night before. The broncos defender had both his hands on the ball before the wr went down and then the defender popped up with it. It all happened in one fluid motion.

 

[uconngb]

It was an instant classic.

But remember, it wasn’t a bet

 

[Travelman6]

Houston currently smoking Arizona st 24-2

Is Hurley losing his team? Hot seat time?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

But remember, it wasn’t a bet

I offered you a bet that you would have been able to put in the bank 2 weeks later, and you choked. Nice work.

 

[Mr. French]

You should have taken the bet I offered 2 weeks ago, or at least tried to counter. It would have been money in the bank, but you didn't. Too bad for you.

Yeah, too bad I didn't jump into a hypothetical bet with another poster, take a bet from a random internet dude I've never met and hope it comes true 7 years later, what a sucker I am.

 

[Mr. French]

I offered you a bet that you would have been able to put in the bank 2 weeks later, and you choked. Nice work.

2 weeks? Wasn't the bet about Peterson not making it through 3 years in the NBA?