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superjohn said:
It's pretty damn weird how you can catch the ball come down with the ball firmly in your body with your body on the ground and it's not considered a catch.
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Because he didn’t possess it long enough to be considered possession. We see that play all the time where a receiver appears to catch the ball, he might even shift it in his arms, but before he takes a step a defender punches it out and the defense recovers it. That’s not ruled a fumble because the receiver didn’t “make a football move” ie he didn’t possess it long enough before losing it so it’s ruled an incompletion. Here the defender had both hands on the ball before the receiver goes down and the ball didn’t hit the ground or go out so it has to be an interception.
 
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bendm said:
Because he didn’t possess it long enough to be considered possession. We see that play all the time where a receiver appears to catch the ball, he might even shift it in his arms, but before he takes a step a defender punches it out and the defense recovers it. That’s not ruled a fumble because the receiver didn’t “make a football move” ie he didn’t possess it long enough before losing it so it’s ruled an incompletion. But here the defender has both hands in the ball before the receiver goes down and the ball didn’t hit the ground or go out so it has to be an interception.
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Oh-oh! 😳
 
bendm said:
Because he didn’t possess it long enough to be considered possession. We see that play all the time where a receiver appears to catch the ball, he might even shift it in his arms, but before he takes a step a defender punches it out and the defense recovers it. That’s not ruled a fumble because the receiver didn’t “make a football move” ie he didn’t possess it long enough before losing it so it’s ruled an incompletion. Here the defender had both hands on the ball before the receiver goes down and the ball didn’t hit the ground or go out so it has to be an interception.
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We see guys catch it all the time who possess the ball and bring the ball down with their body. He didn't take any steps because it was a jumping/falling catch.
 
superjohn said:
We see guys catch it all the time who possess the ball and bring the ball down with their body. He didn't take any steps because it was a jumping/falling catch.
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Yeah what you described just happened in the Texans game. the wr caught the ball and as he was falling down the defender ripped it away but the wr was ruled down by contact. But we’ve never seen what happened last night before. The broncos defender had both his hands on the ball before the wr went down and then the defender popped up with it. It all happened in one fluid motion.
 
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Houston currently smoking Arizona st 24-2

Is Hurley losing his team? Hot seat time?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
You should have taken the bet I offered 2 weeks ago, or at least tried to counter. It would have been money in the bank, but you didn't. Too bad for you.
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Yeah, too bad I didn't jump into a hypothetical bet with another poster, take a bet from a random internet dude I've never met and hope it comes true 7 years later, what a sucker I am.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I offered you a bet that you would have been able to put in the bank 2 weeks later, and you choked. Nice work.
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2 weeks? Wasn't the bet about Peterson not making it through 3 years in the NBA?
 
Houston was written off a bit prematurely when they underperformed at the Players Tourney. I know this is a home blowout over a bad team, but they look the part of a contender. Maybe we’ll know more when they hit a little three-game gauntlet in February: at Iowa State, home for Arizona, at Kansas.
 
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Gurleyman said:
Houston was written off a bit prematurely when they underperformed at the Players Tourney. I know this is a home blowout over a bad team, but they look the part of a contender. Maybe we’ll know more when they hit a little three-game gauntlet in February: at Iowa State, home for Arizona, at Kansas.
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They were always going to find their way back into the mix - that is a talented team with a very good coach. Fleming is a top ten pick, Uzan, Tugler and Sharp are strong carryovers from last years team. Cenac is also a really highly ranked frosh who took some time. Samson said earlier in the year that it was going to take time to get this group to figure it out. They'll be right there. I'm piqued to see the battle for the B12. ISU looks like they're already opting out a bit, BYU took a blow this weekend to. My guess is that it's between AZ and Houston.
 
bendm said:
Yeah what you described just happened in the Texans game. the wr caught the ball and as he was falling down the defender ripped it away but the wr was ruled down by contact. But we’ve never seen what happened last night before. The broncos defender had both his hands on the ball before the wr went down and then the defender popped up with it. It all happened in one fluid motion.
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Bears player just took it away from the Rams receiver, no "football move" knee down. Make it all up as you go along.
 
superjohn said:
Bears player just took it away from the Rams receiver, no "football move" knee down. Make it all up as you go along.
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Diff on that one seemed to be Adams had an official catch before his knee went down. Separate note, have the Pats had these playoffs gift wrapped? Herbert, Stroud and now Stidham? Wild.
 
Oh, Swift had to feel that ground contact. Ouch.

I like all three NFC QBs for different reasons (Rams/Bears isn't over yet). But I think Caleb would be the most difficult matchup for the Pats. Just seems he's never out of the game regardless how crappy he played the first 50 minutes. One of the best improvisers at his age I can recall.
 
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storrsroars said:
Oh, Swift had to feel that ground contact. Ouch.

I like all three NFC QBs for different reasons (Rams/Bears isn't over yet). But I think Caleb would be the most difficult matchup for the Pats. Just seems he's never out of the game regardless how crappy he played the first 50 minutes. One of the best improvisers at his age I can recall.
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Question is / will the NFL do what they can to keep Denver out of the SB? Not sure anyone wants to see a backup QB out there.
 
superjohn said:
Bears player just took it away from the Rams receiver, no "football move" knee down. Make it all up as you go along.
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As a wise man once said, you want it to be one way, but it’s the other way.
 
RuffRuff said:
Diff on that one seemed to be Adams had an official catch before his knee went down. Separate note, have the Pats had these playoffs gift wrapped? Herbert, Stroud and now Stidham? Wild.
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Yeah Adams knee was down and he had the ball. It's different from Brandin Cooks in Broncos game.
As for AFC playoffs I was hoping for Josh Allen to make the Super Bowl. This year lined up nice for him with no Patrick Mahomes, no Lamar Jackson, no Joe Burrow.
Pats have it made. I don't see how Stidham will get up to speed in such a short amount of time.
 
I cannot believe that TD throw by Williams. It reminds me of when I played Tecmo Bowl using Phil Simms and I would run back 50 yards and then throw it deep into end zone.
 
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gsmooth said:
I cannot believe that TD throw by Williams. It reminds me of when I played Tecmo Bowl using Phil Simms and I would run back 50 yards and then throw it deep into end zone.
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Have never seen a play like that in the history of the NFL - threw it from the 40.
 
RuffRuff said:
As in, will the NFL do a wink wink, nod nod with the refs for that one. No one wants to see Jarrod Stidham in the SB.
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I understood. I think that’s crazy
 
Inyatkin said:
I understood. I think that’s crazy
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It's the SB - KC's gotten plenty of love getting Mahomes there from the refs. You think they want to market Jarrod Stidham for two weeks? The guy has never started an NFL game and no one knows him, and no one will know after season ends.
 
RuffRuff said:
It's the SB - KC's gotten plenty of love getting Mahomes there from the refs. You think they want to market Jarrod Stidham for two weeks? The guy has never started an NFL game and no one knows him, and no one will know after season ends.
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Stidham has started a few games for the Raiders and Broncos. But I hear you.
 
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bendm said:
As a wise man once said, you want it to be one way, but it’s the other way.
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The refs can't explain it because it makes no sense.

Bears lost the game because of Ben Johnson. Horrible playcalling all game and leaving points on the board by being a gambler.
 
superjohn said:
The refs can't explain it because it makes no sense.

Bears lost the game because of Ben Johnson. Horrible playcalling all game and leaving points on the board by being a gambler.
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What was Caleb doing throwing downfield 2nd and 8 from the Rams 48 in OT? Chip away, you need 13-14 yards for a game winning FG.

Caleb is super talented, but he makes some tough decisions. Can win or lose you the game I guess.
 
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