January General CBB Discussion Thread (Non-BE)

[RuffRuff]

Not what he said

I offered my rationale - who should we be breaking down? DePaul? Familiarizing with the best team in the country when we have a NC contender is interesting in my book. Breaking down a bunch of meh teams in the BE, not so much. You don't think the staff is taking a look at the national landscape of top teams and thinking about how they need to tailor this team for combat?

I haven't seen enough ISU to break down yet. I think we'll match up well with AZ with Mullins/Tarris in there. I think we match up well with Purdue. We've seen BYU. Houston needs to develop.

 

[KingAG]

I offered my rationale - who should we be breaking down? DePaul? Familiarizing with the best team in the country when we have a NC contender is interesting in my book. Breaking down a bunch of meh teams in the BE, not so much. You don't think the staff is taking a look at the national landscape of top teams and thinking about how they need to tailor this team for combat?

Arizona, Duke, Iowa State, Purdue, Mich St, etc. There’s so many other teams to talk about .

 

[RuffRuff]

Arizona, Duke, Iowa State, Purdue, Mich St, etc. There’s so many other teams to talk about .

Need to watch more ISU. I think we match up well with the others.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Say what now?? Your exact words were that your money was on a belief that Patterson would be out of the league by his 3rd year. Someone tried to take you up on that by saying they would accept the bet and then you tried to change the terms. Are you saying you don’t remember that???

You are a real beauty

This is the most tedious exchange I have had on this board in a long time, which is saying something.

You do make my point about recruiting stories. Recruiting "experts" think that some rando HS kid with a good publicist will be better than MJ and Lebron combined within a year, and when someone, like me in this case, says something contrary, the recruiting "experts" lose their freaking minds over it.

 

[imno1]

The funniest part of all of this is he's flexing about being right about Michigan when a week before Vegas he said they weren't a national championship contender. He realized they were good at the same time as everyone else here

Scandalous if true

 

[Inyatkin]

All this talk of a big frontline is tedious. UConn had better than NBA size in 06 and 09, and had great seasons that notably didn't end in championships. I still remember 6-foot-nothing Kyle Lowry getting to the rim over and over against our 06 giants.

But that was before the portal! or something

 

[thekollieman]

Need to watch more ISU. I think we match up well with the others.

I’ve been tending to ignore ISU these past couple years even though they’ve been consistently highly ranked. Idk if maybe they don’t get the default coverage that those other programs get, but I feel like I haven’t seen so much as a highlight from them. Wasn’t Donny Marshall saying during the Marquette game that they’re must-watch basketball?

 

[RuffRuff]

I’ve been tending to ignore ISU these past couple years even though they’ve been consistently highly ranked. Idk if maybe they don’t get the default coverage that those other programs get, but I feel like I haven’t seen so much as a highlight from them. Wasn’t Donny Marshall saying during the Marquette game that they’re must-watch basketball?

Yes - I know them vaguely. I think TJ is a great coach and they have some older carryovers that are solid. And a frosh guard that can defend. That blowout win at Purdue raised a lot of eye brows, would need to see how they do against the AZs and BYUs.

 

[uconngb]

This is the most tedious exchange I have had on this board in a long time, which is saying something.

You do make my point about recruiting stories. Recruiting "experts" think that some rando HS kid with a good publicist will be better than MJ and Lebron combined within a year, and when someone, like me in this case, says something contrary, the recruiting "experts" lose their freaking minds over it.

What color is the sky in the alternate world you live in???

 

[NJHusky]

They also didn't have the amount of travel back then that today's teams have. Although I just looked at Michigan's schedule and it's actually not too bad. They go out west once to play Oregon and Washington back to back. They have UCLA at home and they already played USC at home. It's not like UCLA's schedule last year where they crisscrossed the country like 3 times and the leprechaun had a fit about it.

Do you really think travel in Jan-early March is going to have any impact on games played over 3 weekends? Where they will probably be playing close to home. You think flying from Michigan to LA is going to tank their chances to win it all?

 

[RuffRuff]

Do you really think travel in Jan-early March is going to have any impact on games played over 3 weekends? Where they will probably be playing close to home. You think flying from Michigan to LA is going to tank their chances to win it all?

Discussion was around whether they could go without a loss.

 

[aceboon]

 

[thekollieman]

Yes - I know them vaguely. I think TJ is a great coach and they have some older carryovers that are solid. And a frosh guard that can defend. That blowout win at Purdue raised a lot of eye brows, would need to see how they do against the AZs and BYUs.

Yes - I know them vaguely. I think TJ is a great coach and they have some older carryovers that are solid. And a frosh guard that can defend. That blowout win at Purdue raised a lot of eye brows, would need to see how they do against the AZs and BYUs.

I just took a peak at their schedule and the first possibly very interesting game from the UConn fan perspective could be a week from tomorrow at Kansas. Especially if Peterson doesn’t play, that could be a good measuring stick for us.

 

[superjohn]

I just took a peak at their schedule and the first possibly very interesting game from the UConn fan perspective could be a week from tomorrow at Kansas. Especially is Peterson doesn’t play, that could be a good measuring stick for us.

Will ISU be without their star big man? Because UConn was without theirs.

 

[thekollieman]

Will ISU be without their star big man? Because UConn was without theirs.

Good call. Will have to take that into consideration, whatever the outcome, when comparing.

 

[ctchamps]

That’s besides the point but I’ve watched several of their games and am sure I’ll watch several more this season. I’ll happily read the Michigan scouting report from @Hey Adrien! and other analyses the week of the final4/championship IF we even play them. But No one wants or needs to be beaten over the head with Michigan propaganda by you for 4 months

Who's forcing you to read it?

 

[ctchamps]

There should be an academic study conducted on this thread.

In lieu of legitimate on the court complaints — we are 14-1 and clearly have a chance at hanging a 7th banner in May — our posters choose to attack each other instead.

I don’t see this consternation on the Rice Owls message board…

It would be a wonderful way to teach human behavior in a petrie dish.

 

[ctchamps]

Arizona, Duke, Iowa State, Purdue, Mich St, etc. There’s so many other teams to talk about .

Then talk about them rather than insisting he talks about them.

 

[ctchamps]

To be clear I gave you a like not because I have any interest in Louisville. Nor because I like hearing about players getting hurt. But because this was the first post in a while with new news about teams outside of the BE.

 

[RuffRuff]

To be clear I gave you a like not because I have any interest in Louisville. Nor because I like hearing about players getting hurt. But because this was the first post in a while with new news about teams outside of the BE.

Hard to get too pumped about Ville at this rate myself. Right now, biggest focus is keeping a close eye on contenders to see what the field looks like, and watching some of these second tier BE schools face each other (Nova, StJ, SHU) to see if one of them step up.

Another team I have no sense of is Vandy.

 

[HooperScooper]

Do you really think travel in Jan-early March is going to have any impact on games played over 3 weekends? Where they will probably be playing close to home. You think flying from Michigan to LA is going to tank their chances to win it all?

Not what I meant. I was responding to RuffRuff about going undefeated or having 1 loss during the regular season. And I responded that it might be harder for Michigan to do that now than it might have been before the conference expanded so much because of all the travel involved now. I wasn't talking about the travel affecting the NCAA Tournament and winning the championship. I don't think you followed the conversation RuffRuff was having and my response to his post. Happens all the time on here with so many posts going back and forth.

 

[KingAG]

Then talk about them rather than insisting he talks about them.

You new here?

He asked what other teams.

 

[bendm]

Who's forcing you to read it?

I’m not talking about a couple posts here and there I’m talking about pages that derail threads that had nothing to do with michigan in the first place

 

[John]

Not what I meant. I was responding to RuffRuff about going undefeated or having 1 loss during the regular season. And I responded that it might be harder for Michigan to do that now than it might have been before the conference expanded so much because of all the travel involved now. I wasn't talking about the travel affecting the NCAA Tournament and winning the championship. I don't think you followed the conversation RuffRuff was having and my response to his post. Happens all the time on here with so many posts going back and forth.

travel? these kids don't take a stagecoach from one state to another, everything is first class and chartered.

 

[REB1094]

Arizona is AP #1 with 1494 points. Michigan is #2 with 1493. Literally 1 vote apart!

BYU up to #9. Illinois up to #16. Kansas down to #22 and Florida is out of the top 25

SMU and UCF debut at 24 and 25. First team out is Villanova. Second is Seton Hall. St John’s nowhere to be found

 

[NJHusky]

Not what I meant. I was responding to RuffRuff about going undefeated or having 1 loss during the regular season. And I responded that it might be harder for Michigan to do that now than it might have been before the conference expanded so much because of all the travel involved now. I wasn't talking about the travel affecting the NCAA Tournament and winning the championship. I don't think you followed the conversation RuffRuff was having and my response to his post. Happens all the time on here with so many posts going back and forth.

Sorry i misunderstood. Ruff pointed that out earlier. More coffee before boneyard. lol

 

[superjohn]

I too took a peak at it. Obviously the game at Purdue will be the biggest challenge, but boy do they match up well there. Big athletic teams are Purdue's weakness. @MSU could present some issues, but they're so much bigger. IDK - you're right about the travel, especially to the West Coast - just not sure who out there can do it. They can play their C+ game and beat most of those teams. They're bound to lose one, but should be favored in every game other than maybe Purdue.

I really like our chances in the BE this year now that it's pretty clear StJ is middle of the pack.

I post Greg talking about more than UM for gods sake. And post about plenty more - ask Hooper. Why would I post about the 24 team on another board? If I was Purdue that year closing in on that Uconn team, I would break them down. In lieu of no one in the BE to talk about, looking ahead.

Listen, I clearly don't expect it. We all know that. I do not think this UM team is the best team ever - didn't say that. I simply think they're a really tough matchup based on their size & athletecism. They have a 6'9" PF 2way dude at the 3. Dauster didn't get their frontline size right.

It's how your incessant Michigan posts come across and now you're talking about how different things are now in college basketball where you can create a superteam. You've talked about them going undefeated and how nobody can give them a game this season. We all know they're really good/great. We all know there's been really good/great teams in the past, more talented than this Wolverines team have won it and haven't won it. At least I assumed we all knew that.

It's too much in every thread and it comes across as not having an understanding of teams from the past.

I can assure you Hurley, Luke, Kimani, and Tom Moore aren't staying up all night every night gameplanning for how UConn can beat the all-time juggernaut Michigan Wolverines.

When you joined the board at the end of last season it was Duke is massive and they would romp a team like Houston with their little guards. UConn fans are all living in the past and small guards can't win anymore and teams with huge guards like Duke and Auburn would romp in that tournament and going forward. Well, Duke didn't romp Houston's little guards and Auburn's team of huge guards lost to Florida's smaller guards. It was small guards playing each other for the national championship last season and a small guard is leading your Michigan team you think will go undefeated this season.

 

[RuffRuff]

It's how your incessant Michigan posts come across and now you're talking about how different things are now in college basketball where you can create a superteam. You've talked about them going undefeated and how nobody can give them a game this season. We all know they're really good/great. We all know there's been really good/great teams in the past, more talented than this Wolverines team have won it and haven't won it. At least I assumed we all knew that.

It's too much in every thread and it comes across as not having an understanding of teams from the past.

I can assure you Hurley, Luke, Kimani, and Tom Moore aren't staying up all night every night gameplanning for how UConn can beat the all-time juggernaut Michigan Wolverines.

When you joined the board at the end of last season it was Duke is massive and they would romp a team like Houston with their little guards. UConn fans are all living in the past and small guards can't win anymore and teams with huge guards like Duke and Auburn would romp in that tournament and going forward. Well, Duke didn't romp Houston's little guards and Auburn's team of huge guards lost to Florida's smaller guards. It was small guards playing each other for the national championship last season and a small guard is leading your Michigan team you think will go undefeated this season.

Every night, ay? Their potential to be a juggernaut goes well beyond being huge, but not worth bringing up.

 

[HooperScooper]

travel? these kids don't take a stagecoach from one state to another, everything is first class and chartered.

So you don't think crisscrossing the country across 3 time zones and playing 2 games a week has any affect on people? I'm not saying they can't do it, I'm just saying it might catch up to you sometimes and you put up a stinker. It's naive to think otherwise.

UCLA coach Mick Cronin blasts Big Ten basketball travel demands, calls out reporter in postgame rant

Cronin held nothing back in the postgame tirade.

247sports.com

 

[John]

So you don't think crisscrossing the country across 3 time zones and playing 2 games a week has any affect on people? I'm not saying they can't do it, I'm just saying it might catch up to you sometimes and you put up a stinker. It's naive to think otherwise.

UCLA coach Mick Cronin blasts Big Ten basketball travel demands, calls out reporter in postgame rant

Cronin held nothing back in the postgame tirade.

247sports.com

worrying about travel is quaint in this day and age.